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Balanced Rebellion

#21

Quote:You mean the black guy tea party favorite who was leading to be nominee?


The only argument against conservatism is "racist sexist bigot homophobe" etc. The fact that u keep falling for it is your bit.


Also "super predators" Robert kkk bird j William fullbright Margarete sanger Al gores father lbj etc.
 

I've learned a lot from you these past few months, and even though I don't agree with you on many issues (although I do regarding BLM, which is odd if you really knew anything about me) I've come to respect you.

 

The "racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe" argument isn't an argument against conservatism inherently in my opinion only a portion of it (extreme social). It's an argument against the candidates propped up by the Repbulican party, which said party does nothing to correct nor mitigate. Why would one intentionally allow themselves to be portrayed as the party of the "straight, white male" considering how diverse this country is? By allowing this opinion to fester and grow, whether it's true or not, you're disenfranchising a LOT of people who aren't straight, white and/or male.

 

So in essence, Anch, is kind of right. You disenfranchise and discriminate against enough people you not only alienate them, but the people that care about them and so on. It becomes this super six degrees of separation political snowball effect. It ends up not mattering that conservatives have some amazing ideas on how to make this country better. All we see is "you're actively going out of your way proposing and pushing for policy that harms me or someone I care about" how are we supposed to reconcile this?

<i>Behold man's final mad disgrace.</i>

<i>He chops his nose to spite his face.</i>

 

-Etrigan the Demon

 
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#22

Name the policy and lets discuss it
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#23

Without referencing Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, how much does Gary Johnson being completely confounded that Aleppo is a city in Syria affect your opinion on him?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOT_BoGpCn4

 

And his awkwardly explosive reaction on how offensive the term "Illegal Immigrant" is?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs

 

Personally, I don't think the first one is that big a deal, but anyone with basic foreign policy knowledge, especially one running for president, should know what and where Aleppo is. The Syrian civil war and immigration crisis has been going on for a few years now and Aleppo has been referenced numerous times across every media outlet. Come on.

 

The second one is ridiculous and shows how ridiculous political correctness can be. For being a "libertarian", his reaction felt very anti-libertarian in nature, regardless of his actual position on immigration.


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#24

Quote:Without referencing Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, how much does Gary Johnson being completely confounded that Aleppo is a city in Syria affect your opinion on him?

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOT_BoGpCn4'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOT_BoGpCn4</a>


And his awkwardly explosive reaction on how offensive the term "Illegal Immigrant" is?

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs</a>


Personally, I don't think the first one is that big a deal, but anyone with basic foreign policy knowledge, especially one running for president, should know what and where Aleppo is. The Syrian civil war and immigration crisis has been going on for a few years now and Aleppo has been referenced numerous times across every media outlet. Come on.


The second one is ridiculous and shows how ridiculous political correctness can be. For being a "libertarian", his reaction felt very anti-libertarian in nature, regardless of his actual position on immigration.


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Exactly why I think Gary Johnson does not want to get on the debate stage. Every time he opens his mouth you realize that he's crazy.
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#25
(This post was last modified: 09-08-2016, 11:21 AM by EricC85.)

No one is voting for Gary Johnson because he's the solution to all of our problems Heck if he stood a real chance of winning I don't even know if I would vote for him voting for Gary Johnson is just a vote of protest because both of the parties for the last two decades have given us garbage options I'm voting for Gary because I want a third option
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#26
(This post was last modified: 09-08-2016, 01:46 PM by The_Anchorman.)

Quote:Name the policy and lets discuss it
How about forcing welfare recipients to undergo a drug test?


How about the war on drugs? The fact that crack got you a larger sentence than powder cocaine?


How bout the immediate change in voter rights in the south the moment the supreme court struck down the heart of the voting rights act that came out of the civil rights era.


Lol... Those are just off the top of my head.
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#27

Voting for someone that has absolutely no chance of winning is like buying shooters for the hot chick in the bar that you have no chance of going home with.  Why bother !!


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#28

Quote:How about forcing welfare recipients to undergo a drug test?


How about the war on drugs? The fact that crack got you a larger sentence than powder cocaine?


How bout the immediate change in voter rights in the south the moment the supreme court struck down the heart of the voting rights act that came out of the civil rights era.


Lol... Those are just off the top of my head.
 

1. Ok, let's end welfare and it won't be an issue.

 

2. Ok, let's end it and it won't be an issue.

 

3. This one is too vague, more info on your thoughts?

“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#29
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2016, 06:56 PM by JagsFanJay.)

Quote:Voting for someone that has absolutely no chance of winning is like buying shooters for the hot chick in the bar that you have no chance of going home with.  Why bother !!
 

 

Whether or not Johnson has a chance to win is not the issue. He's not perfect by any means, but he is the only choice I have that will allow me sleep at night. The other two choices aren't choices at all. One is a power crazed liar who will do anything to be president and the other is a narcissistic crazy person with impulse control issues who just makes up answers on the fly with no facts to back them up, in order to cater to the masses. I refuse to vote for either of those people. How did we even get to this point?


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#30

Quote:Whether or not Johnson has a chance to win is not the issue. He's not perfect by any means, but he is the only choice I have that will allow me sleep at night. The other two choices aren't choices at all. One is a power crazed liar who will do anything to be president and the other is a narcissistic crazy person with impulse control issues who just makes up answers on the fly with no facts to back them up, in order to cater to the masses. I refuse to vote for either of those people. How did we even get to this point?
 

Yep, Johnson isn't perfect, but I'll sleep just fine that Tuesday night after I pull the lever for him.

“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#31

Quote:Voting for someone that has absolutely no chance of winning is like buying shooters for the hot chick in the bar that you have no chance of going home with.  Why bother !!
 

I don't know about you, but I kept buying drinks for hot chicks until one did in fact go home with me. We simply do it until it works, and when it does? It's magnificent!

“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#32

Quote:How about forcing welfare recipients to undergo a drug test?


How about the war on drugs? The fact that crack got you a larger sentence than powder cocaine?


How bout the immediate change in voter rights in the south the moment the supreme court struck down the heart of the voting rights act that came out of the civil rights era.


Lol... Those are just off the top of my head.


Those are easy, one there shouldn't be welfare, two there shouldn't be laws on narcotics.


As for voting rights you have no "right" to vote. It's a myth there's no constitutional right to vote, only re restrictions on why you can be excluded from voting.


Honestly We would be a hell of alot better off if less people voted.
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#33

Quote:1. Ok, let's end welfare and it won't be an issue.

 

2. Ok, let's end it and it won't be an issue.

 

3. This one is too vague, more info on your thoughts?
 

1.  ending the social programs gets you to a world that you don't really want if you think it through.

 

2.  See #1.

 

3.  Go do some research on North Carolina's court case regarding voter rights.  Same with Wisconsin.  Check out Texas.  Check out any southern state that makes it hard for a certain sector of the population to vote.  Don't act dumb.  But even if you are too ignorant to check.  Google Voter rights in North Carolina and Voter rights in Wisconsin.  Then tell me there's not a racist push to make sure "those people" (you know blacks) can't vote.

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#34
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2016, 08:52 PM by The_Anchorman.)

Next thing:  Wanting to get rid of social programs is one thing.  They are actually a reality.  So when you say you want to get rid of programs that keep former slaves hanging on by a string, you're basically showing how little you care about the struggle.

 

And if you know anything about blacks.  You know, those dark skinned people with the kinky hair...  They'll tell you that the struggle is real.

 

Just saying.  Your libertarian nonsense doesn't really resonate with a group of people that were destroyed by the philosophy of individual rights and lack of love for the weaker of a society.

 

You may want to take a walk in their shoes before you make a statement that clearly shows your lack of thought to those that have been oppressed.


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#35

Maybe I'm wrong.  Maybe black people will be better off when they have no support from the government.  Those people can figure it out on their own.  Those people are such slackers. 


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#36

Quote:Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe black people will be better off when they have no support from the government. Those people can figure it out on their own. Those people are such slackers.


You don't see the racism in your comment linking welfare to a race?
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#37

Quote:1.  ending the social programs gets you to a world that you don't really want if you think it through.

 

2.  See #1.

 

3.  Go do some research on North Carolina's court case regarding voter rights.  Same with Wisconsin.  Check out Texas.  Check out any southern state that makes it hard for a certain sector of the population to vote.  Don't act dumb.  But even if you are too ignorant to check.  Google Voter rights in North Carolina and Voter rights in Wisconsin.  Then tell me there's not a racist push to make sure "those people" (you know blacks) can't vote.


Horse [BLEEP]. Voter ID laws should be mandatory in all 57 states as your buddy Barry would say. You need to show ID to walk into a damn bar, it should be much more secure to get into the voting booth. And yes, end all welfare and drug laws, people should be free to suceed or fail of their own volition.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#38

Quote:You don't see the racism in your comment linking welfare to a race?


He's not a racist, he's just had too much of the Kool Aid today.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#39

Quote:Maybe I'm wrong.  Maybe black people will be better off when they have no support from the government.  Those people can figure it out on their own.  Those people are such slackers.


Naw man, better to be on the gubment plantat--- errrr, teat all their lives. Permanent dependency is a wonderful thing (for politicians).
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#40

Quote:You don't see the racism in your comment linking welfare to a race?
 

When Reagan mentions welfare queens, he's not talking about white people...  When republicans talk about inner city's that are reliant on welfare and have become dependant on it, they're not talking about white people.

 

I'm basing my comments on republicans and how they see welfare and those that recieve it.  It is racist...  But it's coming from the GOP.

 

Even trump looks at blacks and think they all live in Ghettos...  This isn't me.  This is the GOP.  

 

I'm not saying that all republicans are racist.  But they cater to a certain basket of alt-right nationalists that hate blacks, browns, jews, and muslims...  Are you saying that there isn't a group of racists that the republicans are catering to?

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