Patella tendon

Are you sure the it is the tendon and not the bone?

I can only find 1 report that specifies tendon. Everything else just says patella.

Just quoting the report from the team to a team employee who posted it on SM

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Does anyone actually know yet what the prognosis for Hodges is?  The thread title says "lost for the season," but all Pederson said was that he is "going to miss some time."

Not specifically. It will definitely be at least 6-8 weeks which is what it would take for a patellar dislocation or say a tiny avulsion fracture. Most other patellar injuries would take a few months and probably end the season for an offensive lineman who has to be in a particular stance and putting a lot a weight and force through the knee consistently. And yes, a patellar tendon tear could be career ending depending on severity and recovery.

Sometimes orthopedic injuries take a while to assess accurately due to swelling. 

At least that’s what my Holiday Inn Express certificate says.

It depends how quickly they started to ice it during the game to reduce the swelling. A lot of newer stadiums have an MRI machine in house or right next door these days, but sometimes these are only available for the home teams. There are certain "tests/maneuvers" you they can do to look for obvious injuries like a bad patellar tendon tear or fracture. But as those are pretty obvious and would end his season, I would presume that would have leaked out from Saturday and be widespread knowledge by now. You can still do the MRI even with swelling, but sometimes it can affect the accuracy of intensity assessments or 50/50 calls of certain injuries. Plus the coil they have to put over the knee has to fit well to get a good image and that may be tough to tolerate.

This week's injury report is the first they'll be required to divulge details. 

It would appear they are keeping details of current injuries guarded as long as possible as so many teams prep themselves to hit the waiver wire in one week's time. I think figuring out a few players to stash on IR so they don't leave them vulnerable to other teams could be part of the equation here.

I just find this argument kind of silly. Because every team operates like this, so it is not hard for other teams to predict how other teams are playing this and what any particular statement means. Plus it is not like they don't know he has a patella injury. He is going to be out for 6 weeks to the full season, and every situation in that range means the Jags will have him on some injury list and need to replace that spot. 

It's not like hockey where they say he a lower body injury or a torso injury, and that's it. Even there leaks happen all the time, so most people eventually find out enough specifics to strategize.

On top of all it, it just causes fans, reporters, and talking heads to speculate non stop which in the end doesn't help anyone. In some cases it can very much hurt the player's reputation too, like with Coughlin's lies about Fred Taylor's injuries. As betting starts getting bigger and bigger, I think the NFL will finally have financial incentive to just make all of this very straightforward.

That's cool.

Why do YOU think the team decided not to talk about injuries after joint practices and again after a preseason game this week when they've talked openly about them in every other presser all summer?

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Not specifically. It will definitely be at least 6-8 weeks which is what it would take for a patellar dislocation or say a tiny avulsion fracture. Most other patellar injuries would take a few months and probably end the season for an offensive lineman who has to be in a particular stance and putting a lot a weight and force through the knee consistently. And yes, a patellar tendon tear could be career ending depending on severity and recovery.


It depends how quickly they started to ice it during the game to reduce the swelling. A lot of newer stadiums have an MRI machine in house or right next door these days, but sometimes these are only available for the home teams. There are certain "tests/maneuvers" you they can do to look for obvious injuries like a bad patellar tendon tear or fracture. But as those are pretty obvious and would end his season, I would presume that would have leaked out from Saturday and be widespread knowledge by now. You can still do the MRI even with swelling, but sometimes it can affect the accuracy of intensity assessments or 50/50 calls of certain injuries. Plus the coil they have to put over the knee has to fit well to get a good image and that may be tough to tolerate.


I just find this argument kind of silly. Because every team operates like this, so it is not hard for other teams to predict how other teams are playing this and what any particular statement means. Plus it is not like they don't know he has a patella injury. He is going to be out for 6 weeks to the full season, and every situation in that range means the Jags will have him on some injury list and need to replace that spot. 

It's not like hockey where they say he a lower body injury or a torso injury, and that's it. Even there leaks happen all the time, so most people eventually find out enough specifics to strategize.

On top of all it, it just causes fans, reporters, and talking heads to speculate non stop which in the end doesn't help anyone. In some cases it can very much hurt the player's reputation too, like with Coughlin's lies about Fred Taylor's injuries. As betting starts getting bigger and bigger, I think the NFL will finally have financial incentive to just make all of this very straightforward.

That's cool.

Why do YOU think the team decided not to talk about injuries after joint practices and again after a preseason game this week when they've talked openly about them in every other presser all summer?

Oh I'm sure THEY think it helps somehow. I just don't think it does.

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Are you sure the it is the tendon and not the bone?

I can only find 1 report that specifies tendon. Everything else just says patella.

Just quoting the report from the team to a team employee who posted it on SM

Then they may just be holding that information internally.

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It will be interesting to see who is out there this week since this is basically a dress rehearsal for the real opener.

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Does anyone actually know yet what the prognosis for Hodges is?  The thread title says "lost for the season," but all Pederson said was that he is "going to miss some time."

Not specifically. It will definitely be at least 6-8 weeks which is what it would take for a patellar dislocation or say a tiny avulsion fracture. Most other patellar injuries would take a few months and probably end the season for an offensive lineman who has to be in a particular stance and putting a lot a weight and force through the knee consistently. And yes, a patellar tendon tear could be career ending depending on severity and recovery.

Sometimes orthopedic injuries take a while to assess accurately due to swelling. 

At least that’s what my Holiday Inn Express certificate says.

It depends how quickly they started to ice it during the game to reduce the swelling. A lot of newer stadiums have an MRI machine in house or right next door these days, but sometimes these are only available for the home teams. There are certain "tests/maneuvers" you they can do to look for obvious injuries like a bad patellar tendon tear or fracture. But as those are pretty obvious and would end his season, I would presume that would have leaked out from Saturday and be widespread knowledge by now. You can still do the MRI even with swelling, but sometimes it can affect the accuracy of intensity assessments or 50/50 calls of certain injuries. Plus the coil they have to put over the knee has to fit well to get a good image and that may be tough to tolerate.

This week's injury report is the first they'll be required to divulge details. 

It would appear they are keeping details of current injuries guarded as long as possible as so many teams prep themselves to hit the waiver wire in one week's time. I think figuring out a few players to stash on IR so they don't leave them vulnerable to other teams could be part of the equation here.

I just find this argument kind of silly. Because every team operates like this, so it is not hard for other teams to predict how other teams are playing this and what any particular statement means. Plus it is not like they don't know he has a patella injury. He is going to be out for 6 weeks to the full season, and every situation in that range means the Jags will have him on some injury list and need to replace that spot. 

It's not like hockey where they say he a lower body injury or a torso injury, and that's it. Even there leaks happen all the time, so most people eventually find out enough specifics to strategize.

On top of all it, it just causes fans, reporters, and talking heads to speculate non stop which in the end doesn't help anyone. In some cases it can very much hurt the player's reputation too, like with Coughlin's lies about Fred Taylor's injuries. As betting starts getting bigger and bigger, I think the NFL will finally have financial incentive to just make all of this very straightforward.

Either you are a joint specialist or you need to check out of the Holiday Inn Express by 11.

Thanks for sharing the info. I kinda wonder if it's more a case of "out 8-10 weeks, but if we IR him for the year that gives him time to heal and develop without risk of reinjury" - if they like the guy they are going to do what they can to stash him away SOMEWHERE, and he's probably raw enough that a year in the weight and film rooms could serve him well.

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Let me guess.  You are definitely a doctor, or perhaps slept at the Holiday Inn Express last night.

GET OUTTA MY HEAD ALREADY

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I just find this argument kind of silly. Because every team operates like this, so it is not hard for other teams to predict how other teams are playing this and what any particular statement means. Plus it is not like they don't know he has a patella injury. He is going to be out for 6 weeks to the full season, and every situation in that range means the Jags will have him on some injury list and need to replace that spot. 

It's not like hockey where they say he a lower body injury or a torso injury, and that's it. Even there leaks happen all the time, so most people eventually find out enough specifics to strategize.

On top of all it, it just causes fans, reporters, and talking heads to speculate non stop which in the end doesn't help anyone. In some cases it can very much hurt the player's reputation too, like with Coughlin's lies about Fred Taylor's injuries. As betting starts getting bigger and bigger, I think the NFL will finally have financial incentive to just make all of this very straightforward.

That's cool.

Why do YOU think the team decided not to talk about injuries after joint practices and again after a preseason game this week when they've talked openly about them in every other presser all summer?

@The gambling mobs came down on Doug for spoiling their business@

(PS if you gamble on preseason football seek help immediately)

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You mean Dan Hicken, who is down 500 hundo because the Ravens lost last week’s preseason game.

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