This is a sore topic with me this year.  The wife and I always claim zero, and always have.  We are a family of five with three child dependents.  In the past we have always gotten back thousands at tax time.  The previous year was around 5K, and 8k the year before that.  Imagine my surprise when we got our tax bill and owed 1,800.  This is a massive change on a year over year basis. 

We are not self employed, She is a teacher and I work in middle management.  We are not rich and do not have excessive income.  I know others that had a similar large swing in the same direction, our situation is not unique.  Luckily we had enough in the bank to make the payment.  How many of those new penalties were families that are just getting by or are having to live on credit cards due to the inflation of the last few years.  I would venture a guess that a lot of those new fines were middle class families that got caught by the same situation as me, expecting a refund as usual and getting a large bill instead.

I'm extremely curious to know what attributed to such a big swing in your tax filing.  There is no way that such a large swing should have occurred from year to year based on comparable taxable income and deductions.   Did an increase in pay result in being moved to a high tax bracket (e.g., 12% to 22%) or were there other contributing factors.  I know many people are getting screwed in the service industry these days because their tips are all credit card based (not cash) and recorded by the restaurants as taxable income, which they don't account for throughout the year.

If you do Turbo Tax or other electronic filing, it should give you a side by side comparison of the year to year differences.  Interested to know --- perhaps someone here can assist with planning for this years filing....

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This is a sore topic with me this year.  The wife and I always claim zero, and always have.  We are a family of five with three child dependents.  In the past we have always gotten back thousands at tax time.  The previous year was around 5K, and 8k the year before that.  Imagine my surprise when we got our tax bill and owed 1,800.  This is a massive change on a year over year basis. 

We are not self employed, She is a teacher and I work in middle management.  We are not rich and do not have excessive income.  I know others that had a similar large swing in the same direction, our situation is not unique.  Luckily we had enough in the bank to make the payment.  How many of those new penalties were families that are just getting by or are having to live on credit cards due to the inflation of the last few years.  I would venture a guess that a lot of those new fines were middle class families that got caught by the same situation as me, expecting a refund as usual and getting a large bill instead.

I'm extremely curious to know what attributed to such a big swing in your tax filing.  There is no way that such a large swing should have occurred from year to year based on comparable taxable income and deductions.   Did an increase in pay result in being moved to a high tax bracket (e.g., 12% to 22%) or were there other contributing factors.  I know many people are getting screwed in the service industry these days because their tips are all credit card based (not cash) and recorded by the restaurants as taxable income, which they don't account for throughout the year.

If you do Turbo Tax or other electronic filing, it should give you a side by side comparison of the year to year differences.  Interested to know --- perhaps someone here can assist with planning for this years filing....

The W4 was also updated recently.  You no longer claim 0, 1, 2 etc.  It's possible you need to redo/update your W4s

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This is a sore topic with me this year.  The wife and I always claim zero, and always have.  We are a family of five with three child dependents.  In the past we have always gotten back thousands at tax time.  The previous year was around 5K, and 8k the year before that.  Imagine my surprise when we got our tax bill and owed 1,800.  This is a massive change on a year over year basis. 

We are not self employed, She is a teacher and I work in middle management.  We are not rich and do not have excessive income.  I know others that had a similar large swing in the same direction, our situation is not unique.  Luckily we had enough in the bank to make the payment.  How many of those new penalties were families that are just getting by or are having to live on credit cards due to the inflation of the last few years.  I would venture a guess that a lot of those new fines were middle class families that got caught by the same situation as me, expecting a refund as usual and getting a large bill instead.

I'm extremely curious to know what attributed to such a big swing in your tax filing.  There is no way that such a large swing should have occurred from year to year based on comparable taxable income and deductions.   Did an increase in pay result in being moved to a high tax bracket (e.g., 12% to 22%) or were there other contributing factors.  I know many people are getting screwed in the service industry these days because their tips are all credit card based (not cash) and recorded by the restaurants as taxable income, which they don't account for throughout the year.

If you do Turbo Tax or other electronic filing, it should give you a side by side comparison of the year to year differences.  Interested to know --- perhaps someone here can assist with planning for this years filing....

I didn't know about the side by side feature of Turbotax, I will check it out.  

We didn't get any substantial increases in income.  I will post some of the basic data.  I'm.always opinions and helpful feedback.

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