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Corporal Punishment

#21

Hmmm...interesting. I'm well past school age, and still enjoy a good spanking.


But, I agree with Eric. There are differences in kids. Some feel bad if they've disappointed someone. They punish themselves. Others it seems need a boot in the [BLEEP].


I got it twice in grade school. It was strict back then. Minor stuff too. Did I tell Dad? Hell no. I'd get another.


Tough subject. There is so little discipline, respect among many young people. I dunno, a student telling a teacher to go piss themselves or piss off needs some discipline. If the student puts his hands on a teacher, he needs more.

This time out business in a room full of toys isn't a deterrent.

I was always afraid to raise a hand however, I'm not exactly a small person and what I would think was a tap would actually hurt someone. It scared me that I would do more damage to my child and therefore refrained.

We found other ways, and they worked. Taking an XBox outside and introducing it to a Louisville slugger was effective. And no...didn't replace it later. But...the crime has to fit the punishment. Where does one draw the line?
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#22
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2016, 12:10 PM by EricC85.)

Quote:I don't have strong feelings on this particular issue. To each their own. But to answer your question.


We use time outs and a loss of privileges with my kids. Never have an issue with either child and both are really well behaved. This might not work for everyone, but it has for us.


In school, I have never really had any issues with my students. So no real need to dish out punishment. Maybe I've been lucky. That being said, I think school corporeal punishment opens a giant can of worms. Too many variables to keep it simple.
 

Your students probably don't act out because they respect you which is how it should be. If they believe you really care and are passionate about the subject most people respond with respect, that's been my experience anyways. 

 

I understand why some people don't "spank", as a young father the spanking was my go to discipline, probably to much. I REALLY try and make spankings RARE occasions these days, I could even see the actual distribution of spanking phasing out in our household. It's to easy to let anger or frustration rather than discipline be the root cause of a spanking, then it's abuse not child rearing. 


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#23

The name of this topic reminds me of them saluting every time a military title was used in How I Met Your Mother.





                                                                          

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Quote:The name of this topic reminds me of them saluting every time a military title was used in How I Met Your Mother.
Major nostalgia.
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Well, I was raised "getting the belt" when I deserved it as well as an open hand slap either to the behind or on occasion to the face (say a cuss word in front of a deeply religious mother).  In all reality, it wasn't the pain from the striking as much as the feeling of being corrected because I had done wrong.  I also got "the paddle" from my elementary school principle a couple of times.  I don't remember why, but the way that I was at that young age I probably deserved it.

 

My children did get "the belt" a couple of times, but for the most part it was an open hand smack on the behind when they were younger.  As they got older punishments changed to taking away privileges.

 

My grandson now has only been spanked a couple of times that I know of by his mother, and in those cases it was with an open hand to the buttocks.

 

That being said, I am not against corporal punishment when raising kids, and quite frankly in my opinion it should probably be used more often.  We then probably would not have children back-talking and being disrespectful to their teachers and/or adults like we see today.  However, it's up to the parents to choose how they discipline their own children.

 

As far as it being used in schools, well it certainly was necessary back when I was a child, but I do think that it should not take place without the parent's consent.

 

Ultimately it's up to parents, not society or government.




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#27

I got a paddle to my rear in elementary school for chewing gum. That didn't scare me half as bad as the butt whooping I knew I would get at home when they called my mom to let her know what was going on.


I wouldn't trust myself with punishing a kid. My anger issues would drive me to do horrible things. This is why I never raised my 25 year old daughter. She was safer with her father. Hard words to admit but it's the truth.
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#28
(This post was last modified: 06-09-2016, 04:38 AM by Caldrac.)

Quote:Do you believe in the use of corporal punishment in child rearing? If so, where do you draw the line? If not, what other alternative forms of punishment do you recommend and has it been effective for you? And last question, do you believe corporal punishment has a place in our schools today?
 

Corporal punishment is warranted at times and as long as it doesn't lead to child abuse it's fair and sometimes the only option left for unreasonable children. As far as where you draw the line? I see nothing wrong with a swift paddling or quick belt lashing in a reasonable area to ensure the message is now loud and clear after failed attempts at instilling reason with the child fell upon deaf ears. I am not saying beat the blood out of a child. I am not saying bruise or mark the child. Just enough to make sure that the better option next time is to listen to the voice of reason rather take the harder route. 

 

I personally think parents have gone soft. And I think the more you allow each generation to grow up and get away with things that they shouldn't get away with. And the more you allow them to develop a sense of self entitlement. The more dangerous it will become as it goes unchecked year after year. I have noticed this with my own parents. I am the oldest son of three boys. I am twenty-eight. I have a twenty-one year old brother and a seventeen year old brother who still live with my parents. I wasn't perfect. But I wasn't nearly as bad nor as much as a handful as these two were and are towards my parents. 

 

Ultimately. What's most important is teaching your child right from wrong at a young and early age. Teaching your child to respect others. When I was a boy growing up. My father rarely ever had to lift a finger or raise his hand or bring out the belt. All he had to do was raise his voice and that was enough to end the issues or stir away the potential storm. It was maybe fear when I was younger. But as I aged into early adulthood, and clearly outweighed my father and matched him just as much in strength. I realized I could probably hold my own against him. But I respected him. And you just never crossed that line. Not because you feared him. But because you reminded yourself of what a hell he had gone through at my age growing up. And how hard he had worked for his family. 

 

Sadly, most kids today don't have that sense anymore. They lack the love, respect and admiration for a good father or mother. They don't appreciate the sacrifices and demands their parents have made to bring them up to the best of their abilities. And I believe a firm butt whooping here and there, when it's warranted, is a concrete way to remind them of just how good they have it. 

 

And as far as school punishment? I don't like it personally. I wouldn't want somebody putting their hands on my child. I'll do it if it's needed and required in front of the appropriate party myself. 


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#29

Corporal Punishment? Pfft....I got the Sargeant treatment.

Could be worse. Women wearing a pant suit in our ally's country, Saudi Arabia, get a whip in public.

Funny how we fight the human rights issue in some areas, and turn a blind oil...err...eye on another.

But that's getting off topic. Ok...beat me.
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Quote:But that's getting off topic. Ok...beat me.
 

For what? We've already established that isn't punishment for you...you deviant!  :teehee:

 

I'm with Eric and Caldrac on this one. There are definitely times and situations that warrant a spanking. I step out and see children under the age of 10 cursing at their parents when they don't get their way on the regular. I'll just say that if I had done that at that age, I would most assuredly not be alive today. Needless to say, I was a VERY good kid who got in VERY little trouble out of fear of getting the ever-loving tar beaten out of me by my parents and then grandparents.

 

Yeah, I didn't like getting spanked therefore I didn't break the rules that would bring them upon myself. It's simple really.

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#31

I know I got my backside smacked whenever I got out of line


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