Fudge he's such an amazing talent, starting to wonder if he would,have just been better removing the cartilage, I think at this point in time you take Ramsey at 5 or you trade back if he's not available.

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Regardless of whether or not they're concerned about his knee, it's due diligence.

They aren't going to waste their time flying across the country if they were overly concerned with the knee. Maybe if they wanted to see his short term progress but his long term prognosis is apparently the concern. A workout won't help with that.

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They aren't going to waste their time flying across the country if they were overly concerned with the knee. Maybe if they wanted to see his short term progress but his long term prognosis is apparently the concern. A workout won't help with that.

 

  I think the Jaguars approach is to cover all bases with Myles Jack.  They need to know where he stands in terms of short term availability and make an educated assessment on the level of long term risk.   Because this is the pick # 5 draft resources,  the stakes are that much higher compared to players projected to go much later on in the draft.

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The Giants have huge holes at LB. 

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The potential for microfracture surgery is there for all meniscus injuries. This isn't good, but it also shouldn't be breaking news.

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Myles did what to the giants board?

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Per Rotoworld:

TFY draft insider's Tony Pauline reports "some" NFL teams are considering having UCLA LB Myles Jack sign an injury waiver before drafting him.


Teams are seemingly increasingly concerned with Jack's knee in the days and hours leading up to the draft. It's believed a chondral defect on Jack's knee may eventually require microfracture surgery, a potentially career-shortening situation teams would prefer to avoid. It remains to be seen whether signing the waiver would help Jack's draft slot. He seems destined for a slide.


Source: Tony Pauline on Twitter Apr 27 - 9:43 PM

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

^I was a bit worried earlier, but now I'm back on all this being a smokescreen.

 

Teams are seriously going to ask him to sign a waiver that negates any compensation should he injure his knee? Rookies aren't paid all that much to begin with and everything you hear about his knee is about how it may not hold up long term, not short term. Anyways, the value in an early draft pick isn't in amount of money paid out, it's the in the ability to select highly sought after players before other teams.

 

So let me get this straight. If he signs a waiver, teams are all of a sudden going invest a high first round pick in him over other blue chip players so they can recoup a couple million bucks on the backend of his deal in the event he re-injures his knee? Sure.....

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Baldy said on NFLN that he was pre-med in college and seen the knee medicals and it's not something that concerns him.

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"Hey Myles, it's Dave Caldwell with the Jacksonville Jaguars. We'd love to select you fifth overall and have you be a cornerstone of our franchise, but only if you sign this waiver so we can get $5 million back in the event you hurt your knee three years down the line."

 

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^I was a bit worried earlier, but now I'm back on all this being a smokescreen.


Teams are seriously going to ask him to sign a waiver that negates any compensation should he injure his knee? Rookies aren't paid all that much to begin with and everything you hear about his knee is about how it may not hold up long term, not short term. Anyways, the value in an early draft pick isn't in amount of money paid out, it's the in the ability to select highly sought after players before other teams.


So let me get this straight. If he signs a waiver, teams are all of a sudden going invest a high first round pick in him over other blue chip players so they can recoup a couple million bucks on the backend of his deal in the event he re-injures his knee? Sure.....

I actually agree. I guess I got caught in the "24 hours before the draft" rumors as well. At the end of the day if the Jags doctors sign off on it then I'm all for it. And Dr Kevin Kaplan is one hell of a doctor.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

I actually agree. I guess I got caught in the "24 hours before the draft" rumors as well. At the end of the day if the Jags doctors sign off on it then I'm all for it. And Dr Kevin Kaplan is one hell of a doctor.

 

I'm glad you posted it. This stuff is fun to read about if for no other reason than seeing all the craziness that surrounds the draft, but that story makes no sense to me.

 

If you're drafting him high, you're going to do so because you're convinced he can be a longterm fixture on your team. If you're drafting him later in the first or in any subsequent round, his contract isn't going to have much money in it.

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Baldy said on NFLN that he was pre-med in college and seen the knee medicals and it's not something that concerns him.

 

Pre-med people in college never actually read anything medical, much less anything in regards to radiology exam/reports. Heck, even in medical school you are not likely to read or see at many radiology studies, unless you are totally gung ho about going into that specific field.

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The potential for microfracture surgery is there for all meniscus injuries. This isn't good, but it also shouldn't be breaking news.

 

It should always be breaking news when the concerns spread to cartilage tearing off the bone. This is not just about the meniscus anymore.

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Pre-med people in college never actually read anything medical, much less anything in regards to radiology exam/reports. Heck, even in medical school you are not likely to read or see at many radiology studies, unless you are totally gung ho about going into that specific field.

 

How do you know that? Do you have a medical degree?

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If his knee is a concern and needs microfracture surgery then he's about to freefall

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If his knee is a concern and needs microfracture surgery then he's about to freefall

 

Not out of the top 20. A team that needs an upgrade at linebacker will pick him.

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Some team is reaaaaaly desperate for Jack to fall.

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Some team is reaaaaaly desperate for Jack to fall.

I'm starting to believe it personally. Literally everyone is saying this, and Jack coming out and talking about possibly needing microfracture surgery and "playing 3 years would be more than what a lot of people would get" worries the hell out of me. I certainly am starting to believe he won't be our guy.

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I'm starting to believe it personally. Literally everyone is saying this, and Jack coming out and talking about possibly needing microfracture surgery and "playing 3 years would be more than what a lot of people would get" worries the hell out of me. I certainly am starting to believe he won't be our guy.

Yeah that statement is borderline moronic by Jack. It's almost like he wants to fall to a specific team. Maybe he grew up a 49er fan.

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