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Merrick Garland to Supreme Court?

#21

Quote:He's only had 2 gun cases: 

 

NRA vs. Reno, which involves the amount of time the FBI takes to destroy gun transfer records after clearing NICS under the Brady bill.  Garland agreed with the FBI that 6 months was enough time.  The NRA wanted wanted them destroyed instantly, and his decision put him on their enemies list.

 

Parker vs. D.C. (which later became Heller vs. D.C.), in which he requested a re-hearing.  He wasn't requesting an overturn, just a re-hearing.

 

Slate article

 

Maybe he's a second amendment fan, maybe he isn't but you can't tell by his record.
A decision was made and they got Heller right.  A re-hearing opens the door for a more restrictive outcome.  'Nuff said.

Kaishakunin for hire.

* (disclaimer) If you think I'm serious, hit yourself in the face w/ a hammer.

 
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#22

Quote:He's only had 2 gun cases: 

 

NRA vs. Reno, which involves the amount of time the FBI takes to destroy gun transfer records after clearing NICS under the Brady bill.  Garland agreed with the FBI that 6 months was enough time.  The NRA wanted wanted them destroyed instantly, and his decision put him on their enemies list.

 

Parker vs. D.C. (which later became Heller vs. D.C.), in which he requested a re-hearing.  He wasn't requesting an overturn, just a re-hearing.

 

Slate article

 

Maybe he's a second amendment fan, maybe he isn't but you can't tell by his record.
 

Thanks for the information.  I still haven't really looked into it much.

 

 

Quote:jagibelieve being an egotistical elitist, but otherwise no, you haven't. And I agree, NO!
Quote:Nothing more than those who don't know the history or location of the Northern Mariana Islands being either ignorant or products of a failed education system.
 

I guess I really struck a nerve with the Trumpistas... or is it Trumpettes?



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#23

Quote:Thanks for the information.  I still haven't really looked into it much.

 

 

 

I guess I really struck a nerve with the Trumpistas... or is it Trumpettes?
 

So again I ask.  Is it just ignorance, or is it the failed education system?

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#24

Quote:What happens if Clinton wins and the Republican congress chooses not to nominate any of her picks? That could be a huge battle.
If they refuse to consider the nominee, it would end in court, and the SCOTUS would instruct Congress to hold confirmation hearings and votes or start lining up for their jail cells.

 

If they blanket refuse any nominees she were to put forward, they would end up looking like idiots and start losing seats left and right.

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#25

Quote:So again I ask.  Is it just ignorance, or is it the failed education system?
 

Oh it's ignorance.  I admitted as much earlier when I said that I didn't know much about him.  I don't follow every single judge in every single court in the U.S. Judicial system.  There is a big difference between that and basic history.



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#26

Quote:they would end up looking like idiots and start losing seats left and right.
 

This I am not so sure would happen. There is a massive distrust between people, media, and the government right now. Who is going to convince the people that they must vote out the Republicans who are blocking the SCJ? The media? Politicians? The people who voted Republicans into office are not going to listen to them, and you can tell that because the two biggest outsiders, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, are getting the majority of votes as a big FU to DC. If Hillary Clinton is elected, the Republican voter base wouldn't even blink if congress chose to never confirm a Clinton nominee.

 

That said, I think in the end the Republicans would capitulate regardless of whether there was the threat of being voted out or not.

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#27
(This post was last modified: 03-17-2016, 03:53 PM by TJBender.)

Quote:This I am not so sure would happen. There is a massive distrust between people, media, and the government right now. Who is going to convince the people that they must vote out the Republicans who are blocking the SCJ? The media? Politicians? The people who voted Republicans into office are not going to listen to them, and you can tell that because the two biggest outsiders, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, are getting the majority of votes as a big FU to DC. If Hillary Clinton is elected, the Republican voter base wouldn't even blink if congress chose to never confirm a Clinton nominee.

 

That said, I think in the end the Republicans would capitulate regardless of whether there was the threat of being voted out or not.
The media, mainstream and otherwise, would swarm down on how the Republicans were unwilling to perform their Constitutional duty (whether that were true or not, and in this case, it would be a lie). The Democrats would be blasting them loudly through all channels, and the GOP itself would be stuck between openly arguing with some of its most prominent members, essentially begging them to form a third party, or saying nothing and allowing the establishment to further lose control.

 

I really think you'd see the Democrats and the establishment GOP quietly working together to marginalize Congresspersons that are clearly operating on a "reject all" mentality rather than considering the merits of each nominee. Honestly, from what I've read about Garland, I think he was chosen by Obama as an olive branch to the GOP establishment by giving them someone palatable and forcing the extreme GOP to either consider him on his merits or risk having both parties come down on them for dereliction of duty.


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#28

Quote:A decision was made and they got Heller right.  A re-hearing opens the door for a more restrictive outcome.  'Nuff said.
Had it been re-heard, maybe it wouldn't have made it to the Supreme Court.  Also, if you read the article, you'd see that a stalwart conservative judge from the W administration agreed with Garland on the re-hearing.

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#29

Quote:If they refuse to consider the nominee, it would end in court, and the SCOTUS would instruct Congress to hold confirmation hearings and votes or start lining up for their jail cells.


If they blanket refuse any nominees she were to put forward, they would end up looking like idiots and start losing seats left and right.


Right..."Mr Roberts had made his ruling, now let us see him enforce it."
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#30

Marco Rubio says that he isn't willing to hold hearings on Garland's appointment.

 

That's ok. I don't think anyone was really expecting him to show anyway.


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#31

I thought they were all on vacation for two weeks?


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#32

The Republicans hold the Senate right now, but there are 24 Republican senators up for re-election, and only 10 Democrats.   With Trump getting the nomination, the Democrats could flip the Senate in their favor. 

 

I think the Republicans had better take this deal now, and confirm Garland, because if Hillary wins in November, Obama will probably withdraw the nomination so Hillary can nominate Gloria Steinem to the Supreme Court.  


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