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Republican Debate

#21

Trump was swamped with attacks, pretty amazing. That was the establishments big assault though. Big things that will carry from the debate for a few days:

 

1. Trump's taxes

2. Trump's polish immigrants 35 years ago

3. Trump's use of foreign labor during a few months of the year at one of his thousands of properties

4. Trump University

5. Trump Healthcare

 

Now, will any of those actually hurt Trump? I don't think so, but we shall see on Tuesday. These "issues" are so low-level that I can't really see anyone making a voting decision or change on them. So the establishment and media can keep throwing mud at the wall to see if it sticks, but I can't see it happening.

 

I will say the one thing that really bothered me about the debate was Rubio's attack on Trump over healthcare. Trump is trying to explain how FREE MARKET healthcare increases competition, thus creating as many plans as the competing companies create. What was so hard to understand about that? Why is Rubio so intent on replacing ObamaCare with another government-run program? Does he want RubioCare? Also, when you keep asking the same question over and over, you are going to get the same answer over and over.


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#22

Ben Carson gets no air time and it's unfair.
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#23

Quote:Ben Carson gets no air time and it's unfair.
 

Why is Ben Carson still running?  

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#24

Quote:Trump was swamped with attacks, pretty amazing. That was the establishments big assault though. Big things that will carry from the debate for a few days:


1. Trump's taxes

2. Trump's polish immigrants 35 years ago

3. Trump's use of foreign labor during a few months of the year at one of his thousands of properties

4. Trump University

5. Trump Healthcare


Now, will any of those actually hurt Trump? I don't think so, but we shall see on Tuesday. These "issues" are so low-level that I can't really see anyone making a voting decision or change on them. So the establishment and media can keep throwing mud at the wall to see if it sticks, but I can't see it happening.


I will say the one thing that really bothered me about the debate was Rubio's attack on Trump over healthcare. Trump is trying to explain how FREE MARKET healthcare increases competition, thus creating as many plans as the competing companies create. What was so hard to understand about that? Why is Rubio so intent on replacing ObamaCare with another government-run program? Does he want RubioCare? Also, when you keep asking the same question over and over, you are going to get the same answer over and over.


Exactly right. The attacks were small ball.
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#25

The worst is when they start bringing up things from years and years ago. Are people not allowed to change? Times change, people change.


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#26

Saddest of all even this attack is getting old. We know hes evolved. A signifigant portion of the electorate takes him at his worf on his current positions. Repeating it over and over again doesnt change anyones mind.


He always hated abortion, there was a time he didnt think it was up to him. Thats a position i had a long time ago.


There was a time when he saw other countries operate in business without having to have whole departments devoted to buying and managing healthcare. Then u see the disaster that happened over the last few years.


Strong defense but not nation building.


I think hes an ideological centrist that has become practically and experientially more conservative over time as more statist policies tangiably fail
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#28

Quote:Saddest of all even this attack is getting old. We know hes evolved. A signifigant portion of the electorate takes him at his worf on his current positions. Repeating it over and over again doesnt change anyones mind.


He always hated abortion, there was a time he didnt think it was up to him. Thats a position i had a long time ago.


There was a time when he saw other countries operate in business without having to have whole departments devoted to buying and managing healthcare. Then u see the disaster that happened over the last few years.


Strong defense but not nation building.


I think hes an ideological centrist that has become practically and experientially more conservative over time as more statist policies tangiably fail


Are you voting for Trump?
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#29

Quote:The worst is when they start bringing up things from years and years ago. Are people not allowed to change? Times change, people change.
 

It is definitely hypocritical when candidates (Cruz) or their supporters attack others for not being Christian or Christian-enough in the past. One of the big parts of the Christian theology is conversion! Is being a born-again Christian not legitimate? How is it an effective attack strategy saying that if you haven't always been a Christian you will never be one? It is hypocritical.

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#30

My facebook feed if had a post shared from some guy who thought that the IRS audits means Trump is involved in "MASSIVE FINANCIAL FRAUD". 

 

This is pretty ignorant for a couple reasons.  Audits are not uncommon. Companies as large as Trump's are audited by the IRS all the time. Also, it's not like the IRS hasn't be known to select companies for audit for political reasons.


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#31
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2016, 01:30 PM by Jaguar Warrior.)

Quote:My facebook feed if had a post shared from some guy who thought that the IRS audits means Trump is involved in "MASSIVE FINANCIAL FRAUD". 

 

This is pretty ignorant for a couple reasons.  Audits are not uncommon. Companies as large as Trump's are audited by the IRS all the time. Also, it's not like the IRS hasn't be known to select companies for audit for political reasons.
 

It would be hard pressed to expect 99.9% of the people in this country actually know anything involved when owning and operating 100+ international businesses, let alone the legality and tax structures of it.


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#32

Quote:It would be hard pressed to expect 99.9% of the people in this country actually know anything involved when owning and operating 100+ international businesses, let alone the legality and tax structures of it.
 

I think that's why it's being brought up. They hope people that dont know any better will be scared away from Trump.

 

Here's my thing, every time CNN and these robot candidates attack Trump, they are endorsing him.. at least for me.

 

Pope says Trump is bad. China says Trump is bad. CNN is attacking him.... those are three huge endorsements imo.

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#33
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2016, 01:45 PM by Jaguar Warrior.)

Quote:I think that's why it's being brought up. They hope people that dont know any better will be scared away from Trump.

 

Here's my thing, every time CNN and these robot candidates attack Trump, they are endorsing him.. at least for me.

 

Pope says Trump is bad. China says Trump is bad. CNN is attacking him.... those are three huge endorsements imo.
 

True, the MSM is basically the fourth branch of the government at this point, so their impotent rage and anger against Trump is definitely a positive. You can add Mexico, the donor-class oligarchs, the RNC, feminists and SJWs, Muslims, pseudo-intellectual ideologues, etc.

 

The only group that isn't raging or seething with anger over Trump? The only group that matters: Working-class Americans.


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#34

Quote:True, the MSM is basically the fourth branch of the government at this point, so their impotent rage and anger against Trump is definitely a positive. You can add Mexico, the donor-class oligarchs, the RNC, feminists and SJWs, Muslims, etc.

 

The only group that isn't raging or seething with anger over Trump? The only group that matters: Working-class Americans.
 

Throw in Mitt Romney... suddenly he's in the forefront attacking Trump.

 

Boom, another endorsement.

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#35

Chris Christie just endorsed Trump.


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#36

Quote:Chris Christie just endorsed Trump.


Slowly starts backing away from trump
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#37

Quote:Slowly starts backing away from trump
 

lol yes that is a downgrade for me

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#38
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2016, 01:56 PM by badger.)

the Pope, China, and the way main stream media is obsessed with tearing him down are the biggest factors pushing me to Trump.  Any Joe Politician publicly endorsing a candidate doesn't mean much to me.


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#39

Bulldog Christie is ripping a reporter right now for comparing Trumps civil suit to Hillary's classified information case.


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#40

These people better shut their mouths because that wall is growing 40 feet per day.


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