Create Account



The Jungle is self-supported by showing advertisements via Google Adsense.
Please consider disabling your advertisement-blocking plugin on the Jungle to help support the site and let us grow!
We also show significantly less advertisements to registered users, so create your account to benefit from this!
Questions or concerns about this ad? Take a screenshot and comment in the thread. We do value your feedback.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez


(02-08-2019, 09:11 PM)JaguarKick Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 07:35 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:  Lol. "The media is not biased and the enemy of the People" followed by item after item of biased anti-Trump propaganda. Excellent work!

Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it propaganda.  Facts are facts--that was the important part.  The analysis is not what I was after.

Facts are what you perceive them to be through the filter of the messenger and lense of your personal biases.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Reply

We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!



(02-08-2019, 10:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 09:11 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it propaganda.  Facts are facts--that was the important part.  The analysis is not what I was after.

Facts are what you perceive them to be through the filter of the messenger and lense of your personal biases.

No, facts are facts, the ability to accept them are filtered through the lens of our personal biases.
Original Season Ticket Holder - Retired  1995 - 2020


At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Reply


(02-08-2019, 09:11 PM)JaguarKick Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 07:35 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:  Lol. "The media is not biased and the enemy of the People" followed by item after item of biased anti-Trump propaganda. Excellent work!

Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it propaganda.  Facts are facts--that was the important part.  The analysis is not what I was after.

Just because you can find a link to something in "print" does not make it a fact. The propaganda in the accompanying analysis discredits the claim of "fact."



                                                                          

"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"
Reply


(02-08-2019, 10:53 PM)copycat Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 10:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Facts are what you perceive them to be through the filter of the messenger and lense of your personal biases.

No, facts are facts, the ability to accept them are filtered through the lens of our personal biases.

When I can tell you only what I want you to know then I control your "facts."
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Reply


(02-09-2019, 12:25 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(02-08-2019, 10:53 PM)copycat Wrote: No, facts are facts, the ability to accept them are filtered through the lens of our personal biases.

When I can tell you only what I want you to know then I control your "facts."

Just because I don't know all the facts does not change the facts, just my perception of them.
Original Season Ticket Holder - Retired  1995 - 2020


At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Reply

We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!



Saw a good video of hers pointing out the problems with corporate lobbying. I get why she is so unpopular round here now...
Reply


(02-09-2019, 01:25 PM)copycat Wrote:
(02-09-2019, 12:25 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: When I can tell you only what I want you to know then I control your "facts."

Just because I don't know all the facts does not change the facts, just my perception of them.

Exactly, if I control your perception of the facts then I shape your reality.

(02-09-2019, 06:09 PM)lastonealive Wrote: Saw a good video of hers pointing out the problems with corporate lobbying. I get why she is so unpopular round here now...

Did you also get the one with her bold face lie about her proposal?
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Reply


(02-09-2019, 06:47 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(02-09-2019, 06:09 PM)lastonealive Wrote: Saw a good video of hers pointing out the problems with corporate lobbying. I get why she is so unpopular round here now...

Did you also get the one with her bold face lie about her proposal?

Don't leave us hanging. what lie did she tell?
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
Reply


(02-09-2019, 07:23 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-09-2019, 06:47 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

Did you also get the one with her bold face lie about her proposal?

Don't leave us hanging. what lie did she tell?

Enjoy!

https://www.countable.us/articles/21478-...w-deal.amp
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Reply

We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!



(02-09-2019, 07:37 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(02-09-2019, 07:23 PM)mikesez Wrote: Don't leave us hanging. what lie did she tell?

Enjoy!

https://www.countable.us/articles/21478-...w-deal.amp

That article's a pretty big stretch.  
Inskeep used the word "intervention."
Spending money is one type of intervention.
So are new regulations.
So is stricter enforcement of existing regulations.
Later AOC insists she's not talking about government "taking over" stuff. Because "intervention" could mean so many different things, these statements are not necessarily inconsistent.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
Reply


(02-09-2019, 11:36 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-09-2019, 07:37 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Enjoy!

https://www.countable.us/articles/21478-...w-deal.amp

That article's a pretty big stretch.  
Inskeep used the word "intervention."
Spending money is one type of intervention.
So are new regulations.
So is stricter enforcement of existing regulations.
Later AOC insists she's not talking about government "taking over" stuff. Because "intervention" could mean so many different things, these statements are not necessarily inconsistent.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/ocasio-c...faq-2019-2

C'mon man, keep offer those True Conservative justifications for more leftism.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Reply


(02-10-2019, 12:44 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(02-09-2019, 11:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: That article's a pretty big stretch.  
Inskeep used the word "intervention."
Spending money is one type of intervention.
So are new regulations.
So is stricter enforcement of existing regulations.
Later AOC insists she's not talking about government "taking over" stuff. Because "intervention" could mean so many different things, these statements are not necessarily inconsistent.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/ocasio-c...faq-2019-2

C'mon man, keep offer those True Conservative justifications for more leftism.

That one's better.
I agree that's a serious gaffe and I bet someone on the AOC team meant it sincerely.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
Reply


[Image: BlondesAOC.png]
[Image: review.jpg]
Reply

We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!



You guys are just straight terrified of her. The 24/7 coverage on Fox News and the numerous "discredit her by calling her an idiot" memes popping up from the right over and over and over again confirm it. You guys just keep running scared and trying to convince yourselves that she's some sort of threat. Those of us watching from afar will continue to laugh right up until she loses her primary in 2020 and the GOP looks like the real idiots for expending so much energy on a one-termer.
Reply


(02-13-2019, 09:58 AM)TJBender Wrote: You guys are just straight terrified of her. The 24/7 coverage on Fox News and the numerous "discredit her by calling her an idiot" memes popping up from the right over and over and over again confirm it. You guys just keep running scared and trying to convince yourselves that she's some sort of threat. Those of us watching from afar will continue to laugh right up until she loses her primary in 2020 and the GOP looks like the real idiots for expending so much energy on a one-termer.

The Right is helping her to become a legend so I don't believe she'll be a one-termer, but it is weird how women scary the heck out of right-wingers.
The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.
Reply


(02-13-2019, 10:01 AM)Adam2012 Wrote:
(02-13-2019, 09:58 AM)TJBender Wrote: You guys are just straight terrified of her. The 24/7 coverage on Fox News and the numerous "discredit her by calling her an idiot" memes popping up from the right over and over and over again confirm it. You guys just keep running scared and trying to convince yourselves that she's some sort of threat. Those of us watching from afar will continue to laugh right up until she loses her primary in 2020 and the GOP looks like the real idiots for expending so much energy on a one-termer.

The Right is helping her to become a legend so I don't believe she'll be a one-termer, but it is weird how women scary the heck out of right-wingers.

As much as I hate to agree with you, there is a large degree of truth in the idea that if she does get a second term, it will be entirely the right's fault for making her look like a savior to Democrats. I've already seen links on various social media feeds with articles endorsing a Constitutional amendment to lower or remove the age requirements for holding the Presidency purely so that she can run. If the right would just shut up and let her keep talking herself into a hole, that wouldn't be happening.
Reply


(02-13-2019, 09:58 AM)TJBender Wrote: You guys are just straight terrified of her. The 24/7 coverage on Fox News and the numerous "discredit her by calling her an idiot" memes popping up from the right over and over and over again confirm it. You guys just keep running scared and trying to convince yourselves that she's some sort of threat. Those of us watching from afar will continue to laugh right up until she loses her primary in 2020 and the GOP looks like the real idiots for expending so much energy on a one-termer.

I don't see how she can lose her primary in 2020. Her district is full of liberal idiots. Oddly enough, she may not even be the biggest issue for the democratic congress with their growing crop of anti semitic congresswomen.

With Newsome cancelling the California train project due to its ridiculous cost and time frame, it will be a really hard sell for AOC and her purge of commercial aircraft. 

Finally, AOC's staff literally took the page down once it was criticized. Cocaine Mitch is going to call a vote on this and make these people get on the record, as he should. Let this be a lesson that you don't submit "ideas and dreams" as bills if you aren't ready to vote on them!
Reply

We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!



(02-13-2019, 10:04 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(02-13-2019, 09:58 AM)TJBender Wrote: You guys are just straight terrified of her. The 24/7 coverage on Fox News and the numerous "discredit her by calling her an idiot" memes popping up from the right over and over and over again confirm it. You guys just keep running scared and trying to convince yourselves that she's some sort of threat. Those of us watching from afar will continue to laugh right up until she loses her primary in 2020 and the GOP looks like the real idiots for expending so much energy on a one-termer.

I don't see how she can lose her primary in 2020. Her district is full of liberal idiots. Oddly enough, she may not even be the biggest issue for the democratic congress with their growing crop of anti semitic congresswomen.

With Newsome cancelling the California train project due to its ridiculous cost and time frame, it will be a really hard sell for AOC and her purge of commercial aircraft. 

Finally, AOC's staff literally took the page down once it was criticized. Cocaine Mitch is going to call a vote on this and make these people get on the record, as he should. Let this be a lesson that you don't submit "ideas and dreams" as bills if you aren't ready to vote on them!

I'd have to go digging for the article, but I have seen at least one from the MSM saying that Democrats were looking for someone to run against her in the 2020 primary, complete with those good old off-the-record quotes. If she keeps doing the things she's doing and they are largely ignored, she's just another nameless, faceless first-term rep with lots of big ideas and no quantifiable action, which makes her an easy target. If she keeps being portrayed by the right as some kind of antichrist, it emboldens her supporters on the left to see her as a savior for the Democratic Party...which she's not, although I wouldn't complain if she were to become one. With Trump's outfit running a far-right GOP and the Cortez-led "democratic socialists" running the Democrats, it might finally piss off enough of us in the middle for a third party to emerge.
Reply


(02-13-2019, 10:11 AM)TJBender Wrote:
(02-13-2019, 10:04 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: I don't see how she can lose her primary in 2020. Her district is full of liberal idiots. Oddly enough, she may not even be the biggest issue for the democratic congress with their growing crop of anti semitic congresswomen.

With Newsome cancelling the California train project due to its ridiculous cost and time frame, it will be a really hard sell for AOC and her purge of commercial aircraft. 

Finally, AOC's staff literally took the page down once it was criticized. Cocaine Mitch is going to call a vote on this and make these people get on the record, as he should. Let this be a lesson that you don't submit "ideas and dreams" as bills if you aren't ready to vote on them!

I'd have to go digging for the article, but I have seen at least one from the MSM saying that Democrats were looking for someone to run against her in the 2020 primary, complete with those good old off-the-record quotes. If she keeps doing the things she's doing and they are largely ignored, she's just another nameless, faceless first-term rep with lots of big ideas and no quantifiable action, which makes her an easy target. If she keeps being portrayed by the right as some kind of antichrist, it emboldens her supporters on the left to see her as a savior for the Democratic Party...which she's not, although I wouldn't complain if she were to become one. With Trump's outfit running a far-right GOP and the Cortez-led "democratic socialists" running the Democrats, it might finally piss off enough of us in the middle for a third party to emerge.
There is this guy...

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/...ts-n902316

https://twitter.com/usminority/status/10...2422886402
[Image: Ben-Roethlisberger_Lerentee-McCary-Sack_...ayoffs.jpg]
Reply


(02-13-2019, 10:11 AM)TJBender Wrote:
(02-13-2019, 10:04 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: I don't see how she can lose her primary in 2020. Her district is full of liberal idiots. Oddly enough, she may not even be the biggest issue for the democratic congress with their growing crop of anti semitic congresswomen.

With Newsome cancelling the California train project due to its ridiculous cost and time frame, it will be a really hard sell for AOC and her purge of commercial aircraft. 

Finally, AOC's staff literally took the page down once it was criticized. Cocaine Mitch is going to call a vote on this and make these people get on the record, as he should. Let this be a lesson that you don't submit "ideas and dreams" as bills if you aren't ready to vote on them!

I'd have to go digging for the article, but I have seen at least one from the MSM saying that Democrats were looking for someone to run against her in the 2020 primary, complete with those good old off-the-record quotes. If she keeps doing the things she's doing and they are largely ignored, she's just another nameless, faceless first-term rep with lots of big ideas and no quantifiable action, which makes her an easy target. If she keeps being portrayed by the right as some kind of antichrist, it emboldens her supporters on the left to see her as a savior for the Democratic Party...which she's not, although I wouldn't complain if she were to become one. With Trump's outfit running a far-right GOP and the Cortez-led "democratic socialists" running the Democrats, it might finally piss off enough of us in the middle for a third party to emerge.

Your dream of a legit 3rd party is the same dream that the GND is. Is Trump really that far right?
Reply




Users browsing this thread:
2 Guest(s)

The Jungle is self-supported by showing advertisements via Google Adsense.
Please consider disabling your advertisement-blocking plugin on the Jungle to help support the site and let us grow!
We also show less advertisements to registered users, so create your account to benefit from this!
Questions or concerns about this ad? Take a screenshot and comment in the thread. We do value your feedback.


ABOUT US
The Jungle Forums is the Jaguars' biggest fan message board. Talking about the Jags since 2006, the Jungle was the team-endorsed home of all things Jaguars.

Since 2017, the Jungle is now independent of the team but still run by the same crew. We are here to support and discuss all things Jaguars and all things Duval!