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Leonard Williams questionable pass rushing skills?
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Just LOL... Mario Williams, Jadaveon Clowney... now Williams. All Planet Theory guys who were trashed prior to the draft. Like the others, Williams isn't likely to fall past 3. If it weren't for the demand at QB, he'd go first just as they did.
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Lol.
Jadaveon Clowney and Mario Williams were three times the prospects and three times the athlete that leonard Williams is. Mario Williams ran 4.66 at three pounds heavier than Leonard Williams at the combine and destroyed him in every agility test. When you have a prospect that runs 4.97 jumps less than 30 inches and less than 9' in the broad jump he doesn't qualify for PLANET THEORY. not to mention that those two prospects were coveted for their ability to impact the premium down third down. Leonard Williams weakness is production against the pass and on third down. The comparison is just plain silly. Quote:He'll get some sacks, but that's not his strength. I don't see how the Jags can possibly draft him after bringing in Odrick at $8.5M per year. They play the same position.You could move him inside, but then you'd have another Senderrick Marks type. My issue with him isn't so much his pass rush, but he doesn't seem to protect his legs well. Maybe that can be cured with coaching...but it is a concern of mine. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
Quote:Lol. Planet Theory is that there's not enough athletic big guys. Just because Williams isn't the freak athlete that Clowney, Williams, and Peppers were doesn't mean he doesn't qualify.
Quote:My top 5 if we dont trade backTranspose Beasely and Fowler and I agree with you. Depends on what type of player you like or are looking for. I bet the Jags board looks similiar. Beasely or Fowler should be the pick. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:Lol.Williams can play ANYWHERE on the line with the chance to be elite ANYWHERE he plays. That type of versatility and the ability to make the players around him better are exactly what this team needs. Quote:Williams can play ANYWHERE on the line with the chance to be elite ANYWHERE he plays.I don't think it's possible to be elite without being a plus pass rusher. Quote:I don't think it's possible to be elite without being a plus pass rusher.Who's to say he won't be a plus pass rusher?
Quote:I don't think it's possible to be elite without being a plus pass rusher.Suh, Ngata We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:Who's to say he won't be a plus pass rusher? He pretty much is.
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Quote:Suh, Ngata exactly. if the guy comes in and has an impact on the game like ngata had with the rest of the pieces we have on defense... clemons or branch will look a whole lot better.
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Quote:He pretty much is.People downplaying Leonard just to go against the norm. If Leonard is there at 3, he will be a Jag. If not, it will be Fowler.
Suh is a plus plus pass rusher...not sure why he was included. LW not even close to him as a prospect, and especially not as a pass rusher.
Ngata is probably as close as you can get. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:Who's to say he won't be a plus pass rusher?Like 80% of the draftniks. Could be wrong, we'll see...but his profile is much more along the lines of an Odrick/Jordan/Tyson Jackson than it is a Suh/McCoy. Quote:Like 80% of the draftniks. Could be wrong, we'll see...but his profile is much more along the lines of an Odrick/Jordan/Tyson Jackson than it is a Suh/McCoy. haha
Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."
Quote:People downplaying Leonard just to go against the norm. You speak so confidently about something that hasn't even happened yet. The serious tone in your diction makes me want to laugh though. Quote:You speak so confidently about something that hasn't even happened yet.Cool story. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Quote:Suh is a plus plus pass rusher...not sure why he was included. LW not even close to him as a prospect, and especially not as a pass rusher.Yeah Suh shouldn't have been included, but my point remains. You can be considered amount the best DTs even if you don't rush the passer at an elite level. I'm not advocating taking LW #3 overall, but I won't be too dissappointed if they do.
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if you KNOW that Williams will be as good as Marcus Stroud in his prime (3 straight pro-bowls), do you draft him then?
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Of course you would. That's why all this dumping on Williams is a complete joke. No matter what their criticisms are of him, no matter how petty, the vast majority still consider Williams the best player in the draft.
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