And of course nobody disputes that leftists are pessimistic by nature. Because that would be crazy talk.

I don't think that anyone here actually thinks that any part of the political spectrum makes you inherently pessimistic, so it'd be a waste of time to do so.

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“He had everything, everything that you would think would make you happy. But it didn’t. Now, what’s the left’s worldview in general? What is it? It you had to attach not a philosophy but an attitude to a leftists worldview, it’s one of pessimism and darkness, sadness. They’re never happy are they? They’re always angry about something. Not matter what they get, they’re always angry,” he says.

 

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/themargin/2...-williams/

 

 

 

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Excuse me, but where exactly does Rush specifically state that Robin Williams killed himself because he was a liberal? To me at least, it sounds like he's just offering a perspective (albeit a very prejudiced perspective), that Liberals are full of pessimism and sadness.

 

 

It just seems like the Liberal Media is desperate to turn any tragedy or event into a Conservative/Republican attack.

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Did you not see where he said "There's something horrible inside them OR they're cowards."  That implies (by any logical reasoning) that people who are suicidally depressed aren't cowards. He didn't say "AND they're cowards".  He was reasoning why people would commit the horrible act.  Unless you think suicide is something really nice to do.

 

You can't help Smith talk his way out of this. And Smith wouldn't want your help, as he's already apologized.

 

Smith was reacting off the top of his head - always dangerous when you're on TV - but his reaction does help to show why people with depression can be reluctant to seek help. They'll be seen as less of a man, or whatever.

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

I don't think that anyone here actually thinks that any part of the political spectrum makes you inherently pessimistic, so it'd be a waste of time to do so.

 

It's official: everything, and I mean everything, has been politicized in this country.

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

You can't help Smith talk his way out of this. And Smith wouldn't want your help, as he's already apologized.

 

Smith was reacting off the top of his head - always dangerous when you're on TV - but his reaction does help to show why people with depression can be reluctant to seek help. They'll be seen as less of a man, or whatever.

 

I'm not talking his way out -- I'm explaining exactly the way he did.


And people aren't seen as cowards because they need to seek help.  They're seen as cowards because they don't.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

Excuse me, but where exactly does Rush specifically state that Robin Williams killed himself because he was a liberal? To me at least, it sounds like he's just offering a perspective (albeit a very prejudiced perspective), that Liberals are full of pessimism and sadness.



It just seems like the Liberal Media is desperate to turn any tragedy or event into a Conservative/Republican attack.

Rush is very good at implying things without coming out and saying them. He will paint a picture and allow listeners to fill in the blanks. In this case he proposes liberals are pessimistic by nature which is ludicrous, but he is weaving his narrative. I could care less what he said or didn't say because I expect him to twist anything he says to whatever predefined conclusion he wants his listeners to regurgitate around water coolers. That is what he does.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

Rush is very good at implying things without coming out and saying them. He will paint a picture and allow listeners to fill in the blanks. In this case he proposes liberals are pessimistic by nature which is ludicrous, but he is weaving his narrative. I could care less what he said or didn't say because I expect him to twist anything he says to whatever predefined conclusion he wants his listeners to regurgitate around water coolers. That is what he does.

I don't have a problem with people arguing that he was painting a picture but this is one of at least a dozen articles I've seen claiming he SAID robin Williams killed himself because he's a liberal, that's called false reporting.

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I don't have a problem with people arguing that he was painting a picture but this is one of at least a dozen articles I've seen claiming he SAID robin Williams killed himself because he's a liberal, that's called false reporting.

 

If it is false reporting, it's a natural mistake.  All it takes is to lift a very large part of the transcript, verbatim, and you can honestly draw the conclusion that he was saying Robin Williams killed himself because he was a liberal.   Now, if he was actually instead making the point that all liberals are pessimists and naturally depressed, well you could take that and still draw the conclusion that Robin Williams killed himself because he was a liberal.  After all, all liberals tend towards depression. 

 

But from reading the transcript, it's not clear to me what Rush was actually saying.  Maybe I'd have to hear him say it, with all the voice inflections and pauses and various other cues.  

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Everybody knows oxycontin is the best way to beat depression.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

Still waiting for you guys to let me know who these liberal news anchors are.

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I'm sure Limbaugh was happy when he was doped out on pain killers.

Yep.

Hey Rush....are conservatives only happy when they're jacked up on percs? To the point they go through any means to get them? Do all conservatives opine on marriage, raising of family's, education, the military...yet have been divorced many times, have no kids, didn't go for a secondary education, served zero time in military yet spew your " expertise" to the robotic lemmings ditto heads on all those subjects?

Do conservatives bash their choice for presidency ( Mitt ) on the air, and when he loses hold everyone else accountable.

Is your testosterone so low, you have go behind the scenes to get Viagra. I'm sure you need it. No guy can keep screwing the country that long without help.

Yes. You are an entertainer. No more. No less. Sadly , just as a nut like Osama was, you have dedicated followers. Dicko heads

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I don't have a problem with people arguing that he was painting a picture but this is one of at least a dozen articles I've seen claiming he SAID robin Williams killed himself because he's a liberal, that's called false reporting.

 

The article titles I've read are "Limbaugh ties suicide to leftist world view".

I think it's an accurate title, consistent with what he said.

 

If it is false reporting, it's a natural mistake.  All it takes is to lift a very large part of the transcript, verbatim, and you can honestly draw the conclusion that he was saying Robin Williams killed himself because he was a liberal.   Now, if he was actually instead making the point that all liberals are pessimists and naturally depressed, well you could take that and still draw the conclusion that Robin Williams killed himself because he was a liberal.  After all, all liberals tend towards depression. 

 

But from reading the transcript, it's not clear to me what Rush was actually saying.  Maybe I'd have to hear him say it, with all the voice inflections and pauses and various other cues.  

 

Audio on page 2 of this thread.

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I think he'd backtrack and try to frame everything he said in the most positive way once the backlash hit, so that really doesn't mean anything to me.

 

As for your last part, who are the liberal news anchors?

 

Christiane Amanpour

Rachel Maddow

Chris Matthews

Ed Schultz

David Shuster

Tony Harris

Al Sharpton

Tamron Hall

Melissa Harris-Perry

George Stephanopoulos

Don Lemon

Anderson Cooper

Soledad O'Brien

Erin Burnett

Ashleigh Banfield

David Gregory

Carol Costello

Dan Rather

Bob Schieffer

Sheppard Smith

Chuck Todd

Lawrence O'Donnell

Keith Olbermann

Andrea Mitchell

Brian Williams (actually worked in the Carter administration at the beginning of his career).

Piers Morgan

Charlie Rose

Diane Sawyer is widely recognized as a liberal on social issues, although like Williams, she does a good job of not letting her feelings be known, and she has no party affiliation or political donations to her credit.  



Posthumous

Walter Cronkite was a die hard liberal

Tim Russert worked for Tip O'Neill before coming to NBC

 

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Still waiting for you guys to let me know who these liberal news anchors are.

 

well according you unless their open socialist they're not even liberal.......

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well according you unless their open socialist they're not even liberal.......

 

There are a few admitted open socialists on the list I provided.  They tend to congregate at MSNBC.

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Christiane Amanpour

Rachel Maddow

Chris Matthews

Ed Schultz

David Shuster

Al Sharpton

Melissa Harris-Perry

George Stephanopoulos

Don Lemon

Anderson Cooper

Soledad O'Brien

Erin Burnett

Ashleigh Banfield

David Gregory

Carol Costello

Dan Rather

Bob Schieffer

Sheppard Smith

Chuck Todd

Lawrence O'Donnell

Keith Olbermann

Andrea Mitchell

Brian Williams (actually worked in the Carter administration at the beginning of his career).

Piers Morgan

Charlie Rose

Diane Sawyer is widely recognized as a liberal on social issues, although like Williams, she does a good job of not letting her feelings be known, and she has no party affiliation or political donations to her credit.  



Posthumous

Walter Cronkite was a die hard liberal

Tim Russert worked for Tip O'Neill before coming to NBC

 

 

So I'm counting four actual news anchors on your list not including your posthumous ones, the rest seem to be television personalities of some kind or reporters.

 

Now that you've made the assertion could you go ahead and link some kind of evidence of them being "liberal" rather than simply reporting on reality. (which has a well known liberal bias)

 

You don't need to do the whole list, it's mostly irrelevant, just the actual news anchors would be fine. Also, some blogger calling them a liberal isn't proof, neither is working for a politician at some point.

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So I'm counting four actual news anchors on your list not including your posthumous ones, the rest seem to be television personalities of some kind or reporters.

 

Now that you've made the assertion could you go ahead and link some kind of evidence of them being "liberal" rather than simply reporting on reality. (which has a well known liberal bias)

 

You don't need to do the whole list, it's mostly irrelevant, just the actual news anchors would be fine. Also, some blogger calling them a liberal isn't proof, neither is working for a politician at some point.

These are almost all anchors on different news programs on the 3 major cable networks, all 3 broadcast networks, and of course Al Jazeera America.  Just because you've never heard of them doesn't make them any less a news anchor.

 

Dismiss it as you see fit.  It's what you do.  Facts tend to bounce off of you like you're made of rubber.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

These are almost all anchors on different news programs on the 3 major cable networks, all 3 broadcast networks, and of course Al Jazeera America.  Just because you've never heard of them doesn't make them any less a news anchor.

 

Dismiss it as you see fit.  It's what you do.  Facts tend to bounce off of you like you're made of rubber.

 

I didn't dismiss anything.

 

Rachel Maddow isn't a news anchor, she has a news entertainment show, but that doesn't make her a news anchor.

 

When you talk about a news anchor you're talking about someone strictly reporting the news.

 

Now if showing that Brian Williams and a few others on your list really are somehow biased beyond just saying they once worked for a politician or are homosexual is too much for you then that's fine, no one's going to make you actually legitimize your assertion.

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So I'm counting four actual news anchors on your list not including your posthumous ones, the rest seem to be television personalities of some kind or reporters.

 

Now that you've made the assertion could you go ahead and link some kind of evidence of them being "liberal" rather than simply reporting on reality. (which has a well known liberal bias)

 

You don't need to do the whole list, it's mostly irrelevant, just the actual news anchors would be fine. Also, some blogger calling them a liberal isn't proof, neither is working for a politician at some point.

 

Melisa Harris nice little promo about my kids belonging to the community is a nice start, I'd consider that pretty left leaning.

 

Chris Matthews gets tingles in his leg around Obama

 

Piers Morgan, come on do I really need to provide evidence of his political bias?

 

this is to easy.......

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Melisa Harris nice little promo about my kids belonging to the community is a nice start, I'd consider that pretty left leaning.

 

Melissa Harris and Lawrence O'Donnell, both designated as anchors at MSNBC, are admitted socialists. 

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