It sounds absurd to put it midly


Bridgrwater would have had the jets in the playoffs, in possible play for a sb berth


Fyi, bridgewater dominates the 15-30 yd accuracy charts as well

 

 

Are you going to teach me about football? Invite all the board members. 

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Geno Smith wasn't playing against the likes of Alabama, LSU, Auburn, etc.... The teams he played as well as his own regularly gave up 30 - 40 points every week.

 

Also, when evaluating Johnny after the season was over and I started reviewing games I realized his success wasn't just from Mike Evans.

 

Johnny completed 300 passes for 4114 yards and mike Evans only accounted for 69 of those completions for 1394 yards....Thats not a dominating amount of production as say i.e. Sammy Watkins is for Tahj Boyd...

 

What is it that you don't like about Johnny Football?

 

Also, you keep saying don't count on college success. But Bridgewater dominated 15-30 yard accuracy charts....isn't that based on college success.......

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Geno Smith wasn't playing against the likes of Alabama, LSU, Auburn, etc.... The teams he played as well as his own regularly gave up 30 - 40 points every week.

 

Also, when evaluating Johnny after the season was over and I started reviewing games I realized his success wasn't just from Mike Evans.

 

Johnny completed 300 passes for 4114 yards and mike Evans only accounted for 69 of those completions for 1394 yards....Thats not a dominating amount of production as say i.e. Sammy Watkins is for Tahj Boyd...

 

What is it that you don't like about Johnny Football?

 

Also, you keep saying don't count on college success. But Bridgewater dominated 15-30 yard accuracy charts....isn't that based on college success.......

 

Dude, you just don't know football scroh. Wiseman will teach us...

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If call manziel lol a qb, there is no hope for you

I call Manziel a QB.


Does that make me hopeless?

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I honestly think you have no idea what your looking at when you watch football


You need an intro course to football 101

 

Lets be honest here. You think you're the only one who knows football on here. Anyone who doesn't like Teddy simply doesn't know anything.

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The Great Wiseman will show us the way. We're waiting...

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I'll say Lewan drops to the 2nd

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Its too early for a poll like this. We still have combine later this month, then FA, then pro days etc.

 

But if I had to guess right now. I would say that Manziel, Bortles, Carr, and possibly Mettenberger are all taken before Bridgewater because teams don't see any untapped potential with him and it doesn't help that he also didn't play against the toughest of competition in college.

 

My personal opinion is he is still my #2 guy as far a QB prospects go in this years draft. At this moment in time I feel Manziel is #1 as he has more talent IMO.

Yup too early wait til after the combine and we will see signs of who will fall

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Geno Smith wasn't playing against the likes of Alabama, LSU, Auburn, etc.... The teams he played as well as his own regularly gave up 30 - 40 points every week.


Also, when evaluating Johnny after the season was over and I started reviewing games I realized his success wasn't just from Mike Evans.


Johnny completed 300 passes for 4114 yards and mike Evans only accounted for 69 of those completions for 1394 yards....Thats not a dominating amount of production as say i.e. Sammy Watkins is for Tahj Boyd...


What is it that you don't like about Johnny Football?


Also, you keep saying don't count on college success. But Bridgewater dominated 15-30 yard accuracy charts....isn't that based on college success.......

Lets call a spade a spade


Bamas d was exposed for average against the sooners


Auburns defense was below average


The one defense that was actual quality was lsu, we saw how that went


Also your just evaluating stats, not how he got them. If stats was the tell all, case keenum would have been the first qb off the board 2012


The fact of the matter is that he misses alot of PRIMARY reads reads in the sumlin system, his mechanics are in consistent and he has no pocket presence.


Thats not first round material let alone top 10 material


Bridgewater is playing within his system (which is used in the pros)


He makes the right reads and he makes the right throws


He reads the entire field and has borderline genius football iq


He dominates the short to intermediate game even under the offensive restrictions he is under


No other qb deserves a 1st round look

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Geno Smith wasn't playing against the likes of Alabama, LSU, Auburn, etc.... The teams he played as well as his own regularly gave up 30 - 40 points every week.

 

Also, when evaluating Johnny after the season was over and I started reviewing games I realized his success wasn't just from Mike Evans.

 

Johnny completed 300 passes for 4114 yards and mike Evans only accounted for 69 of those completions for 1394 yards....Thats not a dominating amount of production as say i.e. Sammy Watkins is for Tahj Boyd...

 

What is it that you don't like about Johnny Football?

 

Also, you keep saying don't count on college success. But Bridgewater dominated 15-30 yard accuracy charts....isn't that based on college success.......

 

You are wasting your time. You can not change his mind. Just tell him he's a genius and move on.

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Lets call a spade a spade


Bamas d was exposed for average against the sooners


Auburns defense was below average


The one defense that was actual quality was lsu, we saw how that went


Also your just evaluating stats, not how he got them. If stats was the tell all, case keenum would have been the first qb off the board 2012


The fact of the matter is that he misses alot of PRIMARY reads reads in the sumlin system, his mechanics are in consistent and he has no pocket presence.


Thats not first round material let alone top 10 material


Bridgewater is playing within his system (which is used in the pros)


He makes the right reads and he makes the right throws


He reads the entire field and has borderline genius football iq


He dominates the short to intermediate game even under the offensive restrictions he is under


No other qb deserves a 1st round look

 

Wow, what a joke! Bama didn't give a damn about that bowl game. The d wasn't the same but it wasn't Connecticut quality either. Take a step back and realize what your comparing. Manziel doesnt have pocket presence? All I see the kid do is sit in the pocket and scan then make like houdini when the pocket collapses. What are you watching? Your so blinded by bridgewater its sad. 

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Wow, what a joke! Bama didn't give a damn about that bowl game. The d wasn't the same but it wasn't Connecticut quality either. Take a step back and realize what your comparing. Manziel doesnt have pocket presence? All I see the kid do is sit in the pocket and scan then make like houdini when the pocket collapses. What are you watching? Your so blinded by bridgewater its sad.

So you say bama didnt care? Do you know how that sounds????


Is the last part about manziel serious??? Cept the houdini part

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Wow, what a joke! Bama didn't give a damn about that bowl game. The d wasn't the same but it wasn't Connecticut quality either. Take a step back and realize what your comparing. Manziel doesnt have pocket presence? All I see the kid do is sit in the pocket and scan then make like houdini when the pocket collapses. What are you watching? Your so blinded by bridgewater its sad.

Heck more times than not he is escaping a perfectly clean pocket


He has the best line in the country...

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You know nothing if you think Clowney drops out the top 5.


My guess is Bortles. I think he drops to the 20's somewhere. I was going to say Barr but he was already said.

 

You know nothing if you don't understand the thread title. It is "Who do you think will be the SURPRISE faller?"

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Also your just evaluating stats, not how he got them. If stats was the tell all, case keenum would have been the first qb off the board 2012


The fact of the matter is that he misses alot of PRIMARY reads reads in the sumlin system, his mechanics are in consistent and he has no pocket presence.


Bridgewater is playing within his system (which is used in the pros)


He makes the right reads and he makes the right throws


He reads the entire field and has borderline genius football iq


He dominates the short to intermediate game even under the offensive restrictions he is under


 

I am not just going off of stats, I was just pointing out that Evans didn't dominate his production. Also if you actually watch him game film he looks and does read the field.

 

And if we are "calling a spade a spade"

 

Bridgewater played again

 

Ohio 7-6

Easter Kentucky 6-6

Kentucky 2-10

Florida International 1-11

Temple 2-10

Rutgers 6-7

UCF 12-1

South Florida 2-10

Connecticut 3-9

Houston 8-5

Memphis 3-9

Cincinnati 9-4

Miami (FL) 9-4

 

......those teams are a combined 70-92....and how do you complete less than 58% of your passes against Kentucky and Connecticut and combine for 2 TDs and 1INT in those games.....

 

Manziel faced:

Rice 10-4

Sam Houston State 9-5

Alabama 11-2

Southern Methodist 5-7

Arkansas 3-9

Ole Miss 8-5

Auburn 12-2

Vanderbilt 9-4

UTEP 2-10

Mississippi State 7-6

LSU 10-3

Missouri 12-2

Duke 10-4

 

...these teams are a combined 108-63....also Johnny only had one game where he completed less than 66% of his passes and that was against LSU.....

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I am not just going off of stats, I was just pointing out that Evans didn't dominate his production. Also if you actually watch him game film he looks and does read the field.

 

And if we are "calling a spade a spade"

 

Bridgewater played again

 

Ohio 7-6

Easter Kentucky 6-6

Kentucky 2-10

Florida International 1-11

Temple 2-10

Rutgers 6-7

UCF 12-1

South Florida 2-10

Connecticut 3-9

Houston 8-5

Memphis 3-9

Cincinnati 9-4

Miami (FL) 9-4

 

......those teams are a combined 70-92....and how do you complete less than 58% of your passes against Kentucky and Connecticut and combine for 2 TDs and 1INT in those games.....

 

Truth bombs

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Heck more times than not he is escaping a perfectly clean pocket


He has the best line in the country...

I think FSU fans could argue with that sentiment. 

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I am not just going off of stats, I was just pointing out that Evans didn't dominate his production. Also if you actually watch him game film he looks and does read the field.

 

And if we are "calling a spade a spade"

 

Bridgewater played again

 

Ohio 7-6

Easter Kentucky 6-6

Kentucky 2-10

Florida International 1-11

Temple 2-10

Rutgers 6-7

UCF 12-1

South Florida 2-10

Connecticut 3-9

Houston 8-5

Memphis 3-9

Cincinnati 9-4

Miami (FL) 9-4

 

......those teams are a combined 70-92....and how do you complete less than 58% of your passes against Kentucky and Connecticut and combine for 2 TDs and 1INT in those games.....

Hey Greece, you don't know the rules brah. When judging ted you can't look at his opponents.

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If call Manziel lol a QB there is no hope for you.

 

There is no hope for you anymore if you think Manziel is not a quarterback.

 

You obviously do not want to teach Thunder Cat Football 101, which means I have to do it.

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I am not just going off of stats, I was just pointing out that Evans didn't dominate his production. Also if you actually watch him game film he looks and does read the field.


And if we are "calling a spade a spade"


Bridgewater played again


Ohio 7-6

Easter Kentucky 6-6

Kentucky 2-10

Florida International 1-11

Temple 2-10

Rutgers 6-7

UCF 12-1

South Florida 2-10

Connecticut 3-9

Houston 8-5

Memphis 3-9

Cincinnati 9-4

Miami (FL) 9-4


......those teams are a combined 70-92....and how do you complete less than 58% of your passes against Kentucky and Connecticut and combine for 2 TDs and 1INT in those games.....

By your theory than, rg3 should have been drafted ahead of luck due to playing superior competition and struggling less against

mediocre competition. All the while neglecting manziel has by far and away the best o line in the country


Furthermore not realizing bridgewater is playing with acc talent as well as against it and if you actually watched those games you wpuld realize that louisville was plagued by a plethera of dropped passes and horrendous pass pro

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