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Would you give Mojo another contract?

#41

You gotta Remember mjd couldn't train like normal due to the Lis-Franc Injury .. I think with a Healthy off season he will be trimmer & quicker next year .. His training has never been doubted..usually takes a year to get back to top form after a significant Injury. He has at least 2-3 productive years left. Where? Soon See
Cali got the Oranges ..Jacksonville got the Drew !!
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#42

No I would not re-sign him. He is nearing the end of his shelf life sad to say. I watched a couple of plays where he was hit and bounced off and fell down on his own.

and that is what i have seen all season. The young MJD was a pinball, getting hit, bouncing it outside, inside. His balance is off since the injury and it

is doubtful it will be brought back to life if you review the history of older running backs with leg and foot problems. Could he regain form for 2 more years? Maybe/maybe not. He is too much risk with little reward.

The guy is done in my opinion.


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#43

MJD has definitely lost a step, but he still has some value for the Jags because we don't have another RB that even comes close to what he can still offer. I am sure he will test the free agent market and see what is out there for him. If he can find a team that will overpay him, then good for him. If not, hopefully we can bring him back at a deal that makes sense for the Jags.


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#44

Quote:Because MJD has a history of great production, so maybe from a production standpoint, he is just having an off year.  Clearly, he's not as explosive as he used to be, but I think he is still capable of being a productive back if he had a viable backup to spot him carries -- again, kind of like the Fred Taylor situation back in 2006.

 

I remember Fred Taylor had an off year in 2005, which lead to him signing a big-ish contract in 2006, if memory serves me correctly.
 

You don't pay players (escpecially RB's) off past production, the Jaguars will be able to find a cheaper, younger, effective option in the draft. I love MJD, but it's time to move on.

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#45

Quote:You don't pay players (escpecially RB's) off past production, the Jaguars will be able to find a cheaper, younger, effective option in the draft. I love MJD, but it's time to move on.
 

Hey, if they choose to move on -- that's fine.  I wont be heartbroken to see him leave. 

 

But I'd understand their rationale behind offering him a two year deal at a reasonable price.

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#46

It's up to Maurice to figure out what he wants to do.

 

He really needs to find a team committed to running the football.


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#47

Quote:It's up to Maurice to figure out what he wants to do.

 

He really needs to find a team committed to running the football.
 

You were being sarcastic right?

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#48

Quote:You don't pay players (escpecially RB's) off past production, the Jaguars will be able to find a cheaper, younger, effective option in the draft. I love MJD, but it's time to move on.
Agreed.  You don't pay them for past production.  But, you certainly can pay the guy to come in and fill the same role Fred Taylor did for him.  It helped to extend Fred's career even though he was on the back end of his, and it allowed MJD to develop into the feature back by splitting reps. 

 

Everything hinges on what MJD expects to get from his next contract.  If he recognizes that he's no longer a feature back and therefore is willing to take reasonable deal that may be loaded with incentives, I'd be fine with that.  I don't think he's completely done as a productive running back in the league.  I just think he's lost a step and is no longer a legitimate feature back.  If he also understands this, there's a place for him on this roster.  It's not like we're pinching pennies next year.  We've got a ton of cap space to deal with.

 

That being said, do I think MJD will agree that he's got to be reasonable in his salary demands?  Probably not. 

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#49

He's gotten better as the season has gone on, I believe with a healthy off season and proper workouts he will get back to being one of the better RBs in the NFL. 


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#50

I hope they do re-sign him. Not for top 10 money, mind you, but I do hope to see him as a Jag next year. 29 (Age he will be next season) is not so ancient as you many would make it out to be. Willis McGahee is doing a decent job for the Browns, and he's recently turned 32. 


I'd like to see him back on a 3 year, incentive laden contract.


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#51
(This post was last modified: 11-26-2013, 07:10 PM by Jungle Cat.)

Quote:You were being sarcastic right?
 

Not a bit. Great quarterback. Run the football. Solid defense.

 

Elway was ready to quit after the Jaguars knocked them out of the '96 playoffs. He was clearing out his locker for what he thought was the last time when Shanahan walked up to him to ask him to stick around for another season.

 

According to Elway, Shanahan told him all he needed from John was to hand the ball off, and throw for a first down once in a while. Elway agreed he was pretty good at that.

 

Shanahan won back to back Super Bowls after that locker room discussion.

 

Most football people agree that simplifying Elway's role led to the back to back wins.

 

You have to run the football. This is bread and butter NFL stuff.

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#52

For the right price sure. If he is willing to sign a fair deal that benefits both him and the team it's a no brainer.  He still has some stuff in the tank.   If he is looking for one last pay day I say no.


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#53

Quote:For the right price sure. If he is willing to sign a fair deal that benefits both him and the team it's a no brainer.  He still has some stuff in the tank.   If he is looking for one last pay day I say no.
I agree with this. If he's seeking something like 5 years and 35+Million, then no way.


But 3 years, say 3-5 mil per, plus incentives, bring it on.


We should draft his replacement anyway, I don't think D Rob is it. Carlos Hyde anyone?  :yes:

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#54

Quote:Not a bit. Great quarterback. Run the football. Solid defense.

 

Elway was ready to quit after the Jaguars knocked them out of the '96 playoffs. He was clearing out his locker for what he thought was the last time when Shanahan walked up to him to ask him to stick around for another season.

 

According to Elway, Shanahan told him all he needed from John was to hand the ball off, and throw for a first down once in a while. Elway agreed he was pretty good at that.

 

Shanahan won back to back Super Bowls after that locker room discussion.

 

Most football people agree that simplifying Elway's role led to the back to back wins.

 

You have to run the football. This is bread and butter NFL stuff.
It also helped that Terrel Davis was by far the best back in the league during those years. Davis scored a superbowl td literally blind from a severe migraine.

You have a very good point in the fact that the best asset to a young QB is a running game.

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#55

Quote:It also helped that Terrel Davis was by far the best back in the league during those years. Davis scored a superbowl td literally blind from a severe migraine.

You have a very good point in the fact that the best asset to a young QB is a running game.

I concur lol


New QB + MJD + Toddman + Rookie RB = success (relative success compared to our past two season, anyway)

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#56
(This post was last modified: 11-26-2013, 07:28 PM by Jungle Cat.)

Quote:It also helped that Terrel Davis was by far the best back in the league during those years. Davis scored a superbowl td literally blind from a severe migraine.

You have a very good point in the fact that the best asset to a young QB is a running game.
 

Any quarterback. Elway was like a sixteen year veteran, not a young hurler when he figured it out. How many Super Bowls did he lose trying to carry everything on his shoulders? The lack of a running game in Denver was conspicuous by it's absence.

 

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#57

Yes but it's not like we have been a passing team, that's why I asked if you were being sarcastic saying MJD needed to find a team committed to the run.

When it works, we ARE committed to the run. We have been a running team for years. Jack was a run first coach, and so is Gus it seems. We have rarely

if ever passed 40 times a game.

However, when Drew gets 2.7 yards per carry as has been his average this year, we are not so committed to the run.

That's not because the coach and team isn't committed to the run in principal, it just hasn't been working well.


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#58
(This post was last modified: 11-26-2013, 07:38 PM by Jungle Cat.)

If you run a play in the NFL on offense, you darn better be sure you can stop it.

 

 

If you have success in practice then run it on Sunday, it usually means it worked upon your own defense.

 

The NFL is a "me too" league.


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#59

Quote:Yes but it's not like we have been a passing team, that's why I asked if you were being sarcastic saying MJD needed to find a team committed to the run.

When it works, we ARE committed to the run. We have been a running team for years. Jack was a run first coach, and so is Gus it seems. We have rarely

if ever passed 40 times a game.

However, when Drew gets 2.7 yards per carry as has been his average this year, we are not so committed to the run.

That's not because the coach and team isn't committed to the run in principal, it just hasn't been working well.
 

For all the stats analysts, what's the down and distance tendency of the Jags on:

 

Second and two or less?

 

Third and four or less?

 

None of that matters when the coordinator is too busy attempting to generate isolation plays regardless of down and distance. He ignores it entirely.

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#60

I wouldn't resign him. If he wanted to stay it would have to be on the cheap. That would be if I didn't have someone else I felt that would give me the same or more production.
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