As long as we use him like the Saints used Graham instead of trying to use him as a blocker im good with it.  Would still prefer Goedert though

Agree on that. Jimmy Graham would be my comp for him. Don't mind Goedert either.  

Overall though I'm not sure I want a TE in the first anymore.

Agree, I still want to go interior oline.  If Hernandez is gone I wouldnt mind Billy Price if they feel he will be healthy by traing camp as reported

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Agree on that. Jimmy Graham would be my comp for him. Don't mind Goedert either.  

Overall though I'm not sure I want a TE in the first anymore.

Agree, I still want to go interior oline.  If Hernandez is gone I wouldnt mind Billy Price if they feel he will be healthy by traing camp as reported

 
Interior and corner are my top 2 choices for the first round atm.

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For all of those people thinking we might be all in on Gesicki, neither our GM or our Head Coach was at his pro day, according to GBN. I would think they'd go see him if he was indeed a target.

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For all of those people thinking we might be all in on Gesicki, neither our GM or our Head Coach was at his pro day, according to GBN. I would think they'd go see him if he was indeed a target.

Not really evidence of anything. Now is around the time where most boards are being finalised.

All of their tape work would be done , they have all the combine info, have all the background work. Going to a pro day is mostly for show or if they need another look/extra info. Actually if you are really interested in a player it's sometimes better not to go at all. Keep your cards close.

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Everybody on the Gesicki wagon now.

Talented guy that would likely shine in our system with the roster we have. I'd be happy with him late 1.

I'd love to have this confidence, but the next time a TE shines in our system will pretty much be the first time in franchise history.

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Talented guy that would likely shine in our system with the roster we have. I'd be happy with him late 1.

I'd love to have this confidence, but the next time a TE shines in our system will pretty much be the first time in franchise history.

Pete Mitchell was probably our best pass-catching TE, but does anyone even really remember him? 


If we go TE in round one I'm thinking it's Goedert or Gesicki. I wouldn't complain about either. In round two it's Hurst or Andrews, but I don't think the Jaguars really want to touch Andrews with his medical condition. In round three I can see them taking that blocking TE Schultz.  I truly hope they get one of these guys.

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'02

This is interesting regarding the Jaguars potential interest in Gesicki...

Jaguars offensive quality control coach John Donovan...was Gesicki's offensive coordinator and tight ends coach at Penn State during the prospect's first two years with the program. During that time, Gesicki caught 24 passes for 239 receiving yards and a touchdown.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/sp.../531091416

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'02

Ian Rapoport tweeted this today...

South Carolina TE Hayden Hurst, likely the top player at his position, has a pre-draft visit with the #Jaguars tomorrow, source said. They pick No. 29.

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Ian Rapoport tweeted this today...

South Carolina TE Hayden Hurst, likely the top player at his position, has a pre-draft visit with the #Jaguars tomorrow, source said. They pick No. 29.

Part of me says we should just go TE in round one knowing that between Goedert, Gesicki and Hurst, one of them will surely be there.

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'02

Ian Rapoport tweeted this today...

South Carolina TE Hayden Hurst, likely the top player at his position, has a pre-draft visit with the #Jaguars tomorrow, source said. They pick No. 29.

Part of me says we should just go TE in round one knowing that between Goedert, Gesicki and Hurst, one of them will surely be there.

I agree. The problem is who?

Mayock and Rapoport (who both have better connections with NFL teams than any of us) reckon Hurst is the best of the bunch.

But others have made cases for Goedert and Gesicki too.

Maybe two will go before we pick and it will be out of our hands...

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Not Hurst please. Not at 29 I mean, 2nd round is fine. His cut ups are good but it's always tough evaluating a far more physically developed 24 year old playing against teenagers.

Basically what you're drafting is what you're getting with him, which is fine and all but not as much profit potential as Goedert, Gesecki, or Andrews.

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Not Hurst please. Not at 29 I mean, 2nd round is fine. His cut ups are good but it's always tough evaluating a far more physically developed 24 year old playing against teenagers.

Basically what you're drafting is what you're getting with him, which is fine and all but not as much profit potential as Goedert, Gesecki, or Andrews.

https://youtu.be/THbjVbkBIuU

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

I'd love to have this confidence, but the next time a TE shines in our system will pretty much be the first time in franchise history.

Pete Mitchell was probably our best pass-catching TE, but does anyone even really remember him? 


If we go TE in round one I'm thinking it's Goedert or Gesicki. I wouldn't complain about either. In round two it's Hurst or Andrews, but I don't think the Jaguars really want to touch Andrews with his medical condition. In round three I can see them taking that blocking TE Schultz.  I truly hope they get one of these guys.

I was revisiting the idea of TE in round 1 and I was thinking that for the jaguars, Hurst might also make more sense because he's a more mature guy. They might see that and think he could contribute faster being that it looks like we are all in on winning a Superbowl. 

He's a local kid, and his overall game does fit what the jaguars are looking for more than gesicki. 

I actually think the jaguars might be thrilled if Hurst is there at 29.

Not gonna be able to go up and get it quite as high as gesicki and not quite the athlete that goedert is, but Hurst is basically the epitome of the tight end position.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

I'll take Schultz or Conklin on day 3

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Hurst is a base hit who is average all around. Not a first round talent.

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Hurst is a base hit who is average all around. Not a first round talent.

I disagree. He's 6'5, runs ok routes (which can be coached,) good blocker with room to get even better, good jumping ability, terrific hands, seems to always get good separation, but can also make tough catches in traffic. He comes off as very humble and intelligent. 

Overall he's a great red zone target who can stretch the field, catch out of the backfield, and is the best blocker of the big 3.

That's exactly what the jaguars need.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Hurst is a base hit who is average all around. Not a first round talent.

Seems more like a base hit who could end up hitting a solid amount of stand up doubles to me.
Middle of the 2nd round feels right to me.

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Hurst is a base hit who is average all around. Not a first round talent.

I disagree. He's 6'5, runs ok routes (which can be coached,) good blocker with room to get even better, good jumping ability, terrific hands, seems to always get good separation, but can also make tough catches in traffic. He comes off as very humble and intelligent. 

Overall he's a great red zone target who can stretch the field, catch out of the backfield, and is the best blocker of the big 3.

That's exactly what the jaguars need.

He's a decent athlete with meh route running, average hands , good YAC and overall he plays hard. He definitely puts a lot effort into his blocking but overall feel his ability is oversold there. He's not a guy I want routinely blocking on the edge.  

Don't think he's as good as ASJ but I like that tandem in theory.

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Hurst is a base hit who is average all around. Not a first round talent.

Seems more like a base hit who could end up hitting a solid amount of stand up doubles to me.
Middle of the 2nd round feels right to me.

Easy on the baseball talk I'm a noob in that realm. 

Prefer the other TEs but for our 2nd rounder I wouldn't hate it. Just not the blue chip prospect I aim for in the first.

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I disagree. He's 6'5, runs ok routes (which can be coached,) good blocker with room to get even better, good jumping ability, terrific hands, seems to always get good separation, but can also make tough catches in traffic. He comes off as very humble and intelligent. 

Overall he's a great red zone target who can stretch the field, catch out of the backfield, and is the best blocker of the big 3.

That's exactly what the jaguars need.

He's a decent athlete with meh route running, average hands , good YAC and overall he plays hard. He definitely puts a lot effort into his blocking but overall feel his ability is oversold there. He's not a guy I want routinely blocking on the edge.  

Don't think he's as good as ASJ but I like that tandem in theory.

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Seems more like a base hit who could end up hitting a solid amount of stand up doubles to me.
Middle of the 2nd round feels right to me.

Easy on the baseball talk I'm a noob in that realm. 

Prefer the other TEs but for our 2nd rounder I wouldn't hate it. Just not the blue chip prospect I aim for in the first.

The tandem of him and asj would be pretty dang nice. Just TE isn't really a premium position usually.


What it comes down to I guess is how the jags have Hurst rated. They might value TE more than other teams because of the direction of the offense. Generally if it was me and there was a similarly rated OL there, I'd probably go that route...or if a QB falls I'd probably take the QB or try to trade out.

Won't be mad at all if we take Hurst at 29 though.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

No way we go with Gesicki. The guy can and will not block. We are a run heavy offense, we need TE that are at least average when it comes to blocking. Hurst makes A LOT more sense.

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