I wonder if Foles would do as well here, even if we did revamp the OL and add a few good WRs and a TE.  Outside of Philly, he hasn't done very well elsewhere.

whats to revamp? guys were just injured.


we'll be okay.


only position I'd probably 'revamp' is Center. I'd let Shatley take over for the oft-injured, over-paid Linder

Your starting Right Guard is a free agent, and your Right Tackle is running on fumes.  The right side of that line is going to require attention.  You also need to look at your LT situation and determine if Robinson can rebound from the injury AND his less than stellar play prior to the injury.    The line is more suspect than you think.

draft grier and possibly murray.

I have actually herd a few things about the scenario where even if Kyler doesn't declare his intention for the NFL, you could still use a pick on him and have rights to him so if he doesn't go the MLB route, your team will have first shot at him. I think that would be a hell of a draft by its self if something like this happens.

If this team drafts Grier, we'll be looking for a new QB in a year or two.  He's way too much of a project for this team.  Patience is one thing.  This would push that to the extreme.

That Foles magic would melt away once he put on that teal and black jersey. This franchise needs its own guy.

Foles in the regular season isn't terribly magical, and definitely not worth what he may anticipate in free agency.  Regardless, the team still needs to bring in a veteran QB to hold the position until the rookie is developed and ready to play.  We can't afford to ruin a rookie by rushing him into action no matter how much the franchise needs it's own guy.  

I don't know if lock is there in the 2nd?

I just want us to find out guy and go get him whatever it takes get your QB jags.

I would take Lock over Grier.  Huge arm, decent athleticism, just needs to develop his game a bit.  

As in they’re trading Wentz or...?

It would be a tough decision but if Foles leads them to another Super Bowl how can he not be their QB going forward?  I think they’d have to strongly consider trading Wentz for a king’s ransom in that scenario.

How?  If he's costing the team $20 million as a backup, he becomes expendable.  I don't think they'd trade the guy they're expecting to be their long-term solution at QB and stick with a guy who is a playoff hero, but mediocre otherwise.

Foles is definitely a free agent. The Eagles have a $20 million option on him they can exercise but I highly doubt they’d do that. Extremely risky for a team right up against the cap as it is

Your statement means he is NOT a free agent. He's under contract.

Philly has to decide if they're exercising the option or not within a week of the Super Bowl concluding.  If they opt to retain him, they're paying their backup QB $20 million.  Nobody expects them to exercise that option, at which point he immediately becaomes a free agent.  It's not automatic, but it seems pretty likely that's going to happen.  My concern with Foles is that he's going to be expecting to get paid like a starter.  This team won't put the resources into paying him that kind of money.  They might as well just stick with Bortles if that's the case.  

BTW, I'm not advocating retaining Bortles.  I think that ship has sailed.  The team is going to need to find a veteran placeholder for next year.  I expect to see both Bortles and Kessler playing elsewhere.

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whats to revamp? guys were just injured.


we'll be okay.


only position I'd probably 'revamp' is Center. I'd let Shatley take over for the oft-injured, over-paid Linder

Your starting Right Guard is a free agent, and your Right Tackle is running on fumes.  The right side of that line is going to require attention.  You also need to look at your LT situation and determine if Robinson can rebound from the injury AND his less than stellar play prior to the injury.    The line is more suspect than you think.

draft grier and possibly murray.

I have actually herd a few things about the scenario where even if Kyler doesn't declare his intention for the NFL, you could still use a pick on him and have rights to him so if he doesn't go the MLB route, your team will have first shot at him. I think that would be a hell of a draft by its self if something like this happens.

If this team drafts Grier, we'll be looking for a new QB in a year or two.  He's way too much of a project for this team.  Patience is one thing.  This would push that to the extreme.

That Foles magic would melt away once he put on that teal and black jersey. This franchise needs its own guy.

Foles in the regular season isn't terribly magical, and definitely not worth what he may anticipate in free agency.  Regardless, the team still needs to bring in a veteran QB to hold the position until the rookie is developed and ready to play.  We can't afford to ruin a rookie by rushing him into action no matter how much the franchise needs it's own guy.  

I don't know if lock is there in the 2nd?

I just want us to find out guy and go get him whatever it takes get your QB jags.

I would take Lock over Grier.  Huge arm, decent athleticism, just needs to develop his game a bit.  

It would be a tough decision but if Foles leads them to another Super Bowl how can he not be their QB going forward?  I think they’d have to strongly consider trading Wentz for a king’s ransom in that scenario.

How?  If he's costing the team $20 million as a backup, he becomes expendable.  I don't think they'd trade the guy they're expecting to be their long-term solution at QB and stick with a guy who is a playoff hero, but mediocre otherwise.

Your statement means he is NOT a free agent. He's under contract.

Philly has to decide if they're exercising the option or not within a week of the Super Bowl concluding.  If they opt to retain him, they're paying their backup QB $20 million.  Nobody expects them to exercise that option, at which point he immediately becaomes a free agent.  It's not automatic, but it seems pretty likely that's going to happen.  My concern with Foles is that he's going to be expecting to get paid like a starter.  This team won't put the resources into paying him that kind of money.  They might as well just stick with Bortles if that's the case.  

BTW, I'm not advocating retaining Bortles.  I think that ship has sailed.  The team is going to need to find a veteran placeholder for next year.  I expect to see both Bortles and Kessler playing elsewhere.

I agree with your points for the most part, but regarding the part in bold.  I think that the team is going to pay far more for a veteran expecting the veteran to be more than a "placeholder".  I don't see the "future franchise" QB being drafted this season.  Looking at the team right now, I think that they bring in a veteran to be a "long term" solution for say 3-5 years and they are patient drafting the eventual replacement.  There is no immediate need to reach for a "franchise QB" in this coming draft.

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i think we trade with oakland and get haskins above the giants

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I think Haskins looks pretty good idk him plus a free agent would be cool to me.

https://www.lockedonjaguars.com/jaguars/...e-haskins/

I honestly put him behind Mayfield and Darnold from last years class.

I think he’s a better prospect than Allen, Rosen and Jackson.

Then he's still firmly a first round rated QB talent.

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i think we trade with oakland and get haskins above the giants

I hope not.  It takes a lot to move up a few spots in the top 10 of the draft.   The jags have lots of needs on offense and can't give the draft away for a QB.  The only exception is if that is 100% the guy they believe will take them over the top.  Get a QB in the 1st if he is there if not the best available in the second.   Draft guru's aren't thrilled with this years QB crop.

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We're pretty much stuck with Bortles in 2019. I hope we don't use our first round pick on this lackluster group of QBs. Instead we should take a premium Dlineman or trade back.

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Quick enough..

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I still believe that the team is going to either cut Bortles or trade him.  A trade is highly unlikely but not out of the question.  I also think that a veteran free agent will be signed to at least a 3 year deal to be the starter.  I seriously doubt that the team would be able to sign a quality veteran to a one year "prove it" deal or a short term "bridge" deal.  Any free agent veteran QB is going to want to sign as a starter, not a backup or "place-holder" contract.  The question is will a veteran free agent want "starter" money or "franchise QB" money?  There is a difference.

The thing is it's going to cost some money to get that free agent which could explain at least in part why the team voided the guarantees on Fournette's current contract.

Going this route gives the team some flexibility regarding the backup position and the draft, especially with the projected weak QB draft class.  They can go with a cheap backup and still focus on BAP in the draft rather than reaching for a QB.

That's the thing. I highly doubt we are going to be active early on in free agency at the QB position. It will be too expensive to lure a QB  away from the high guarantees or long-term structure that some other teams may be putting on the table. More than likely we will be choosing from the leftovers in the clearance bin. Those are going to be guys looking for one last pay day before they ride off into the sunset, or guys too flawed for anyone else to pitch a serious offer their way.

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I honestly put him behind Mayfield and Darnold from last years class.

I think he’s a better prospect than Allen, Rosen and Jackson.

Then he's still firmly a first round rated QB talent.

Yes. I think Haskins is absolutely worth of a top 5 or 10 pick.

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i think we trade with oakland and get haskins above the giants

I hope not.  It takes a lot to move up a few spots in the top 10 of the draft.   The jags have lots of needs on offense and can't give the draft away for a QB.  The only exception is if that is 100% the guy they believe will take them over the top.  Get a QB in the 1st if he is there if not the best available in the second.   Draft guru's aren't thrilled with this years QB crop.

Fournette.

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Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!

If Haskins doesn’t drop to 7, id wait until next year to draft a QB. Use this draft to restock and grab a stop gap vet in FA. Next year get your QB.

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I still believe that the team is going to either cut Bortles or trade him.  A trade is highly unlikely but not out of the question.  I also think that a veteran free agent will be signed to at least a 3 year deal to be the starter.  I seriously doubt that the team would be able to sign a quality veteran to a one year "prove it" deal or a short term "bridge" deal.  Any free agent veteran QB is going to want to sign as a starter, not a backup or "place-holder" contract.  The question is will a veteran free agent want "starter" money or "franchise QB" money?  There is a difference.

The thing is it's going to cost some money to get that free agent which could explain at least in part why the team voided the guarantees on Fournette's current contract.

Going this route gives the team some flexibility regarding the backup position and the draft, especially with the projected weak QB draft class.  They can go with a cheap backup and still focus on BAP in the draft rather than reaching for a QB.

That's the thing. I highly doubt we are going to be active early on in free agency at the QB position. It will be too expensive to lure a QB  away from the high guarantees or long-term structure that some other teams may be putting on the table. More than likely we will be choosing from the leftovers in the clearance bin. Those are going to be guys looking for one last pay day before they ride off into the sunset, or guys too flawed for anyone else to pitch a serious offer their way.

I don't know...  I get this feeling that the team may "go for broke" on a veteran QB and take their time with drafting the future QB.  IF that's the case then I would expect a few surprises when it comes to current veterans "expected" to be back (ie, Campbell or maybe Dareus).  I'm not saying that's what they will or should do, I'm just saying that's my gut feeling.  That's kind of Coughlin's M.O..  It's usually more about the "now" rather than about the future.  

I'll go out on a limb and almost bet that they will be pursuing someone like Nick Foles once free agency starts.  There is no way that the Eagles can/will keep both Foles and Wentz after this season, it would be too expensive for them.  Yes it will be costly and expensive, and it might even cost losing 1 or 2 veterans currently on the roster to make room cap-wise.  There may also be a couple of other surprise moves with trades/cuts (Telvin Smith, Fournette) as examples.

Again, I'm not saying that I think that is what they should do, I'm just saying that I have a feeling that they might do something along those lines that will shock everybody.

The bottom line is, I don't see them "settling" for selecting a QB in a weak draft class and throwing him in the fire.  I also don't see them bringing a "bridge" veteran in for 1 or 2 seasons.  A "bridge" veteran for 1 or 2 seasons is going to be a Chad Henne type of talent.

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I hope not.  It takes a lot to move up a few spots in the top 10 of the draft.   The jags have lots of needs on offense and can't give the draft away for a QB.  The only exception is if that is 100% the guy they believe will take them over the top.  Get a QB in the 1st if he is there if not the best available in the second.   Draft guru's aren't thrilled with this years QB crop.

Fournette.

I would be happy with that.

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Foles contract contains a "mutual option" for the 2019 season. 30 days prior to the new league year, or about 1 week following the Super Bowl, the Eagles must decide whether to pick up the option and retain Foles and his $20m base salary for 2019. If the Eagles pick up the option, then Foles has 5 days to decide to stay with the Eagles or decline the option and go into free agency.

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That's the thing. I highly doubt we are going to be active early on in free agency at the QB position. It will be too expensive to lure a QB  away from the high guarantees or long-term structure that some other teams may be putting on the table. More than likely we will be choosing from the leftovers in the clearance bin. Those are going to be guys looking for one last pay day before they ride off into the sunset, or guys too flawed for anyone else to pitch a serious offer their way.

I don't know...  I get this feeling that the team may "go for broke" on a veteran QB and take their time with drafting the future QB.  IF that's the case then I would expect a few surprises when it comes to current veterans "expected" to be back (ie, Campbell or maybe Dareus).  I'm not saying that's what they will or should do, I'm just saying that's my gut feeling.  That's kind of Coughlin's M.O..  It's usually more about the "now" rather than about the future.  

I'll go out on a limb and almost bet that they will be pursuing someone like Nick Foles once free agency starts.  There is no way that the Eagles can/will keep both Foles and Wentz after this season, it would be too expensive for them.  Yes it will be costly and expensive, and it might even cost losing 1 or 2 veterans currently on the roster to make room cap-wise.  There may also be a couple of other surprise moves with trades/cuts (Telvin Smith, Fournette) as examples.

Again, I'm not saying that I think that is what they should do, I'm just saying that I have a feeling that they might do something along those lines that will shock everybody.

The bottom line is, I don't see them "settling" for selecting a QB in a weak draft class and throwing him in the fire.  I also don't see them bringing a "bridge" veteran in for 1 or 2 seasons.  A "bridge" veteran for 1 or 2 seasons is going to be a Chad Henne type of talent.

I wouldn't be surprised.  After last off-season in particular, where Coughlin addressed any and all real 'needs' prior to the draft, I just don't see him going into this year's draft with a gaping hole at QB.  He would have no leverage for a trade and would have to rely on either getting lucky or trading the farm to get his guy.

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I don’t see the Jags going all-in for a QB in this draft. Not a strong class at all. I’d wager that money will be thrown around for a vet and the draft will be utilized to shore up other areas of weakness like OL, TE, WR, and a true MLB.

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Dont think Caldwell or Tom will go Haskins due to his limited playing time & lack of tape. He does look good to me, but he obviously needs a lot of work.

Grier looks like a bust to me, but so did Baker & he looks pretty darn good.

Lock was terrible vs SEC schools. 25-24 TD - INT ratio when trailing. Do not like at all. He looked great vs lesser competition.

Honestly I would go with the best available OLineman or WR 1st round. Jonah William's or AJ Brown/ NKeal Harry and get Daniel Jones in the 2nd. He might not be the answer, but next years group looks a lot stronger or we give him 2 years and go after Lawrence if he doesnt work out.

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Grier can spin it.

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None of the QBs are great this year. Depending on who the OC is, I could see Blake having a spot.

LF needs space to be good, which you can't get without spreading the field and throwing it. So spread the field and have Bortles run RPO with LF. If the defense still stacks the box, find a way to fix Blake enough to throw mid to deep passes.

For someone who they didn't trust throwing the ball, they sure didn't call a lot of safe 1 read passes.


I hope they are able to get another QB to start, but they have to keep Blake until they have the replacement.


QBs also need to be drafted at least every 2 years. They are just too valuable and if you hit, you can trade the starter or the backup for 1st round picks.

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None of the QBs are great this year. Depending on who the OC is, I could see Blake having a spot.

LF needs space to be good, which you can't get without spreading the field and throwing it. So spread the field and have Bortles run RPO with LF. If the defense still stacks the box, find a way to fix Blake enough to throw mid to deep passes.
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You figure year six of trying that is suddenly going to be the one that works?

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