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(This post was last modified: 05-27-2019, 07:07 PM by JackCity.)

1: New Oline coach + potentially having 3 below average players starting on the line next year. The offense will live or die based on them getting the line right. Pat Flat did it in 2017 with limited talent + built a very effective run game. I'd expect Foles + the new offense will have a lot of quick passes to help, but the meat of the season will come down to our pass protection.

2:Skill positions. Mixed feelings from the Jags fanbase on this but for me it comes down to bankable production i.e who can be trusted + expected to produce at a good level. I'm relatively confident that Dede can do this but thats mostly based off one season and what we've seen from him on the field. Cole is a question mark, Chark is question mark, Lee is a question mark with his injury, when healthy he's a replaceable WR3/4. Conley was just a guy with the Chiefs, maybe plays better here but looks more like a depth WR (despite the OTA hype). Yes Chark has a ton of potential , Cole has some too, they "should" be better this year, we just can't bank on it until its there in front of us.

At TE I love Oliver as a prospect and think he can produce early but he's still a mid round rookie TE from San Jose state,so expectations should be muted until we see it. Swaim and the rest are just guys.

At Rb we have a really one dimensional group of players but if they are healthy Fournette and Armstead are more than good enough to run the ball well, just doubtful Fournette will be healthy which will give us one of the worst RB rooms in the league.

All of that doesn't present a promising out look for me. Overly optimistic people will say that those WRs will surely be better with Foles, and while they should be, we just need proof of it before being so sure that they are. The big hope is De Fillippo is good enough to mix all of these meh groups into a cohesive and dangerous unit.
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(05-27-2019, 07:00 PM)JackCity Wrote: 1: New Oline coach + potentially having 3 below average players starting on the line next year. The offense will live or die based on them getting the line right. Pat Flat did it in 2017 with limited talent + built a very effective run game. I'd expect Foles + the new offense will have a lot of quick  passes to help, but the meat of the season will come down to our pass protection.  

2:Skill positions. Mixed feelings from the Jags fanbase on this but for me it comes down to bankable production i.e who can be trusted + expected to produce at a good level. I'm relatively confident that Dede can do this but thats mostly based off one season and what we've seen from him on the field. Cole is a question mark, Chark is question mark, Lee is a question mark with his injury, when healthy he's a replaceable WR3/4. Conley was just a guy with the Chiefs, maybe plays better here but looks more like a depth WR (despite the OTA hype).   Yes Chark has a ton of potential , Cole has some too, they "should" be better this year, we just can't bank on it until its there in front of us.

At TE I love Oliver as a prospect and think he can produce early but he's still a mid round rookie TE from San Jose state,so expectations should be muted until we see it. Swaim and the rest are just guys.  

At Rb we have a really one dimensional group of players but if they are healthy Fournette and Armstead are more than good enough to run the ball well, just doubtful Fournette will be healthy which will give us one of the worst RB rooms in the league.  

All of that doesn't present a promising out look for me. Overly optimistic people will say that those WRs will surely be better with Foles, and while they should be, we just need proof of it before being so sure that they are. The big hope is De Fillippo is good enough to mix all of these meh groups into a cohesive and dangerous unit.

These are all also very valid points, albeit from the glass half empty perspective.
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(05-27-2019, 11:31 PM)JagJohn Wrote:
(05-27-2019, 07:00 PM)JackCity Wrote: 1: New Oline coach + potentially having 3 below average players starting on the line next year. The offense will live or die based on them getting the line right. Pat Flat did it in 2017 with limited talent + built a very effective run game. I'd expect Foles + the new offense will have a lot of quick  passes to help, but the meat of the season will come down to our pass protection.  

2:Skill positions. Mixed feelings from the Jags fanbase on this but for me it comes down to bankable production i.e who can be trusted + expected to produce at a good level. I'm relatively confident that Dede can do this but thats mostly based off one season and what we've seen from him on the field. Cole is a question mark, Chark is question mark, Lee is a question mark with his injury, when healthy he's a replaceable WR3/4. Conley was just a guy with the Chiefs, maybe plays better here but looks more like a depth WR (despite the OTA hype).   Yes Chark has a ton of potential , Cole has some too, they "should" be better this year, we just can't bank on it until its there in front of us.

At TE I love Oliver as a prospect and think he can produce early but he's still a mid round rookie TE from San Jose state,so expectations should be muted until we see it. Swaim and the rest are just guys.  

At Rb we have a really one dimensional group of players but if they are healthy Fournette and Armstead are more than good enough to run the ball well, just doubtful Fournette will be healthy which will give us one of the worst RB rooms in the league.  

All of that doesn't present a promising out look for me. Overly optimistic people will say that those WRs will surely be better with Foles, and while they should be, we just need proof of it before being so sure that they are. The big hope is De Fillippo is good enough to mix all of these meh groups into a cohesive and dangerous unit.

These are all also very valid points, albeit from the glass half empty perspective.

I think thats just looking at it using occam's razor.
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(05-27-2019, 05:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Health

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(05-25-2019, 09:06 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Rank your concerns.
Determining factors for this season's success in order of importance to me:
  • Cam Robinson's knee and development
  • Taylor playing well at  RT 
  • Potential rookie or journeyman performance at WLB
  • DeFilippo's playbook and play-calling utilizing roster talent according to skill set
  • Development and performance from Oliver and Swaim at TE
  • Foles staying healthy
  • Fournette staying bought in and healthy
  • Taven Bryan being effective at the 3T

It has to be Foles showing he is worth the contract given. Everything else can be offset in some way, shape, or form.
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(05-27-2019, 02:56 PM)Upper Wrote:
(05-27-2019, 12:49 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: As a side note here, I really liked reading that Richardson felt he was benefiting greatly from Warhop's teaching. 
He could turn out to be a quality depth piece down the stretch for this group -- and many of us have felt some concern about that Flaherty to Warhop coaching change.

I won't be surprised at all if Richardson winds up pushing Taylor to RG. I was a big fan of Richardson's pass blocking potential.


With what we're now paying AJ Cann, I don't think there's any way he's not our starting RG.

(05-28-2019, 08:42 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(05-25-2019, 09:06 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Rank your concerns.
Determining factors for this season's success in order of importance to me:
  • Cam Robinson's knee and development
  • Taylor playing well at  RT 
  • Potential rookie or journeyman performance at WLB
  • DeFilippo's playbook and play-calling utilizing roster talent according to skill set
  • Development and performance from Oliver and Swaim at TE
  • Foles staying healthy
  • Fournette staying bought in and healthy
  • Taven Bryan being effective at the 3T

It has to be Foles showing he is worth the contract given. Everything else can be offset in some way, shape, or form.


Certainly that's the most important issue, but I'm not really concerned about that much happening. Barring something drastic like like his legs get broken because a rookie right tackle got schooled, Foles should be fine.
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(05-25-2019, 09:00 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(05-25-2019, 08:33 PM)Jags02 Wrote: I picture Abry and Dareus in a rotation at NT. At 3-tech I can see Campbell coming in a lot more, but otherwise, it's basically Taven and then either Ankou our their 7th round pick. That's a concern for me. I'd rather see a guy like McCoy starting with Taven rotating in, but hopefully it works out.

None of those names exactly thrill me as return specialists.

Another concern is the number of rookies starting. Coughlin used to rarely start rookies, but now we might have Jawaan Taylor, Josh Oliver, Quincy Williams and perhaps a rookie FS. If Walker wins the return job, that's another starter on ST. Plus we have key rookie backups at QB and RB with Gardner and Armstead. Just saying the overall number of rookies being relied on is somewhat concerning. Hopefully, this is one of those epic great rookie classes.  

Dareus will rotate with Bryan at 3T. He'll play both NT and 3T. They already said that they want to get him more involved at rushing the passer this season.

The only way Wilson isn't starting at FS is due to an injury.

It doesn't really matter if the back up QB is a rookie or not. Whoever wins the back up job, if they're starting/playing in any games this season (unless we're up by 40) it means we're in big trouble regardless of who it is. Tom Moore said it best when asked why Peyton Manning's back ups never get any reps. "Fellas, if 18 goes down we're [BLEEP], and we don't practice [BLEEP]". Obviously Foles isn't anywhere close to Manning, but the quote still stands. It never ends up being good if your back up QB is playing.

RB is the easiest/quickest transitions as a rookie. They can either play, or they can't and it doesn't take long to see/figure that out. A rookie RB should be at the very bottom of the list of worries.

The bolded aged really well LOL  Laughing

We're a quarter of the way through the season now and this thread popped into my mind after seeing the following tweet below. I know the Safeties were one of the question marks coming into the season, but besides the blunder in week 1, I think both Harrison and Wilson have played very well so far.

https://twitter.com/DWolf_PR/status/1180254052568973313
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