Teams are going to want Lee and Greene eventually. Just like we wanted Cobb.


We are just stacked at WR

 


True. Let me ask you this one:

 

What do you do if, over the next 2 years of Lee's rookie contract, he plays all 32 games, and lights it up. Clearly outplays Hurns, pushes ARob even for the #1 spot. Do you let him walk and keep Hurns? Or at that point do you sign Lee and trade Hurns and have Greene as your #3?

 

I know we all love Hurns, but if Lee becomes the better guy...

 

Personally, if we can't keep 3, I'd take the best 2. Whether that's the Allens or ARob and Lee.

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If that scenario happens then you keep your best 2 and cash in on the rest.


BUT for Lee to pass Hurns on the depth chart, he will need to see the field. And with the way Hurns and ARob are playing right now....us a long shot.


Greene has special teams ability so he ain't going anywhere.


If Lee lights it up then he play him more. Come contract time you keep him and let Hurns walk.

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If that scenario happens then you keep your best 2 and cash in on the rest.


BUT for Lee to pass Hurns on the depth chart, he will need to see the field. And with the way Hurns and ARob are playing right now....us a long shot.


Greene has special teams ability so he ain't going anywhere.


If Lee lights it up then he play him more. Come contract time you keep him and let Hurns walk.

 


Yeah. So we're basically in agreement. Only difference is I think we could probably pay 3 guys and you think we should stick to 2.

 

Regardless, we have 2 more years with all of them at least!

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I remember the Steelers having Ward, Buress, and Randel El. 1 of them always would rather have more money and more playing time.


But yes I agree.

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I think your both wrong (might just be my bias of my favorite player).


Even if this is how the stats go;


2016:


ARob- 1350 65 13

Lee- 1175 70 9

Hurns- 950 50 7


2017:


Lee- 1300 65 15

ARob- 1200 55 9

Hurns- 1125 60 12


I'd keep Hurns even if their stats ended up like that. He will always be a reliable receiver and you know he is tough.

He will have atleast a 12 year career in the NFL barring major injury(I'm really knocking on wood here).


Unlike Lee, who has been questionable for the past 2 years. If he lights it up for 2 in a row, whats to say he doesn't flop for 2 in a row after? Like I stated in a post before, if Lee is good/great for 2 years, you trade him for a 1st. Greene is basically Lee Jr. I see a lot of potential in him.

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I think your both wrong (might just be my bias of my favorite player).


Even if this is how the stats go;


2016:


ARob- 1350 65 13

Lee- 1175 70 9

Hurns- 950 50 7


2017:


Lee- 1300 65 15

ARob- 1200 55 9

Hurns- 1125 60 12


I'd keep Hurns even if their stats ended up like that. He will always be a reliable receiver and you know he is tough.

He will have atleast a 12 year career in the NFL barring major injury(I'm really knocking on wood here).


Unlike Lee, who has been questionable for the past 2 years. If he lights it up for 2 in a row, whats to say he doesn't flop for 2 in a row after? Like I stated in a post before, if Lee is good/great for 2 years, you trade him for a 1st. Greene is basically Lee Jr. I see a lot of potential in him.

 

I think you're right actually.  I never could figure out why some people think if you have 3 terrific players you have to trade one.  Why *not* keep them all?

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I think your both wrong (might just be my bias of my favorite player).


Even if this is how the stats go;


2016:


ARob- 1350 65 13

Lee- 1175 70 9

Hurns- 950 50 7


2017:


Lee- 1300 65 15

ARob- 1200 55 9

Hurns- 1125 60 12


I'd keep Hurns even if their stats ended up like that. He will always be a reliable receiver and you know he is tough.

He will have atleast a 12 year career in the NFL barring major injury(I'm really knocking on wood here).


Unlike Lee, who has been questionable for the past 2 years. If he lights it up for 2 in a row, whats to say he doesn't flop for 2 in a row after? Like I stated in a post before, if Lee is good/great for 2 years, you trade him for a 1st. Greene is basically Lee Jr. I see a lot of potential in him.

The best part about this would be winning back to back super bowls. Those stats are insane.

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The best part about this would be winning back to back super bowls. Those stats are insane.

They truly aren't. I even second guessed myself and checked.


Bortles threw 4,428 yards with 35 TD's last year. So if he progresses like he should his stats should increase no?


Using his 2015 stats with my projections for those 3 wr's for 2016 combined they would only take up 3,550 of Blakes 4,428 not that crazy when you think about it. Touchdowns combined would account for 29 of Blakes 35.


So honestly it's not that crazy when you think about it. Especially with the whole team improving.

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I think you're right actually.  I never could figure out why some people think if you have 3 terrific players you have to trade one.  Why *not* keep them all?

 


I'm with you here. I'd like to keep all 3 in that situation.

 

I was only saying to keep 2 because that was his argument. I'd like to keep them all.

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What a difference 3 years can make.

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I think hurns is the no brainer at number 2.. But I also believe if Lee stays healthy.. Shows his true potential.. He also could overtake hurns..

If Lee stays healthy and show his True Potential he'll overtake Robinson let alone Hearns. He's much faster and he's an excellent route runner. Lee will stretch the field like no other to say the least. I've posted this before and I'll post it again...


#1 = Lee,

#2 = Robinson,

#3 = Hurns,

#4 = Greene


Again, Mark My Typed Words...


NH3...

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I think you're right actually.  I never could figure out why some people think if you have 3 terrific players you have to trade one.  Why *not* keep them all?

Because you can't pay them all so if lee have a good year then Caldwell should trade him for a good draft pick and get another receiver in the draft who will be cost affectives for this team. 

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Because you can't pay them all so if lee have a good year then Caldwell should trade him for a good draft pick and get another receiver in the draft who will be cost affectives for this team.

I think you can pay them all though. Especially with the cap going up. I think it's more an issue of will the player be happy with the role at that point.

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I think you can pay them all though. Especially with the cap going up. I think it's more an issue of will the player be happy with the role at that point.

This is what I've been trying to say.

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Because you can't pay them all so if lee have a good year then Caldwell should trade him for a good draft pick and get another receiver in the draft who will be cost affectives for this team. 

 

The Jags have been smart with the cap.  If you can negotiate the contract and they sign, there's nothing in the rule book that says you can't keep 3 outstanding receivers AFAIK.

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This is what I've been trying to say.

Ah, that clears things up. I know you mentioned that, but I was reading it more as we couldn't afford them more than their role with the team. My mistake.


So we're on the same page then. Hopefully whoever that #3 ends up being is happy to just be in Jax and wants to stick around long term.

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They truly aren't. I even second guessed myself and checked.


Bortles threw 4,428 yards with 35 TD's last year. So if he progresses like he should his stats should increase no?

No, Blake's stats are going to regress as the team improves. 29 of his TDs came while the team was trailing, which led the entire NFL by a whopping 8. 15 of those were while trailing by 2+ scores, which again led the NFL by over 25%. The 35 pass to 5 rush TD as a team was a huge anomaly too, that needs to/will become much more balanced as well. 

 

Unless you're saying that the new look defense is going to bomb, the Ivory acquisition is a bust, and Yeldon gets hurt again. 

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No, Blake's stats are going to regress as the team improves. 29 of his TDs came while the team was trailing, which led the entire NFL by a whopping 8. 15 of those were while trailing by 2+ scores, which again led the NFL by over 25%. The 35 pass to 5 rush TD as a team was a huge anomaly too, that needs to/will become much more balanced as well. 

 

Unless you're saying that the new look defense is going to bomb, the Ivory acquisition is a bust, and Yeldon gets hurt again. 

 


Or.... Or..... we become one of the best offenses in the league like the Cards/Pats/Pit and Blake's stats stay the same or increase due to our offense just being that good and the defense putting them on the field more often.

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No, Blake's stats are going to regress as the team improves. 29 of his TDs came while the team was trailing, which led the entire NFL by a whopping 8. 15 of those were while trailing by 2+ scores, which again led the NFL by over 25%. The 35 pass to 5 rush TD as a team was a huge anomaly too, that needs to/will become much more balanced as well.


Unless you're saying that the new look defense is going to bomb, the Ivory acquisition is a bust, and Yeldon gets hurt again.

Didn't realize the Jags hit their offensive cap of 40 TDs.

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Or.... Or..... we become one of the best offenses in the league like the Cards/Pats/Pit and Blake's stats stay the same or increase due to our offense just being that good and the defense putting them on the field more often.

Ok let's go that way.

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