You really think Brandon Lafell is better than Robinson or Lee? That's scary. Please look at Lafells numbers pre-Tom Brady. Very below average receiver.


Edelman is a slot guy and even though he's good, it's better to have a threat out wide like Robinson. The patriots have Gronk and he's elite, everybody else on their wr corps is average with barely any upside.

Edelman > Robinson > Lafell > Lee

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That's possible. Still that means the Jags are using the #3 pick on a rotation guy. Mostly he'd rotate in place of Marks or Odrick, with each then playing 2/3 of the time. Alualu becomes a bench warmer after just signing a new contract. And making Williams a jack of all trades on the DL is making him a master of none. Very few players turn out to be JJ Watt.


When I think about it, I guess every defensive lineman is effectively a rotation guy. They don't play every down like an OT or QB would.

Look at the Rams they rotate dlineman like noones business and are stacked on the dline..

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Edelman > Robinson > Lafell > Lee

I think that's wrong but it is your opinion. The point is an elite receiver is nice to have it just is not necessary for success.

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Simply put, there's no reason to prefer anyone to him if he's available.  There's no one close to his talent if he's still on the board there.  You can disagree, but understand that's not compelling enough to convince me otherwise, given the information that's out there.

I prefer Fowler to him. 

 

Just because of the bigger need at edge rusher.

It's like a team taking the top OL talent because they have a need there more so than another position.

Flashback to 2009. The Rams have a new head coach and the second overall pick in the draft.

Do they select a QB? or Top D player? Nope. They select an offensive lineman, not because Smith was a better overall talent than  Curry, Jackson, or Sanchez, the next 3 selections, but because they needed an Oline that could protect the QB they had currently.

 

Williams may very well be the safer pick. But when I balance value and need. I see Fowler or Beasley as the options we want and need.

While Miller and Marks have injury concerns, Odrick can kick inside and we have some depth there. We need a superstar at the pass rush position. We need to swing for the fences.

 

EDIT: Granted the Rams missed pretty bad on Smith.... but even still...

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No. The general rule of thumb is that a pick one round higher in next year's draft is equivalent to a pick this year. So in lieu of the Jets 2nd round pick, I'd accept their 1st round pick from next year.

 

I would be willing to trade #3 for #6 and ask for very little in return, based on the idea that the players available from pick #3 to pick #6 are so evenly rated, there's so little difference between pick #3 and pick #6.    Every mock draft or top-50 player list has the players in that range rated differently.  

 

Fowler, Beasley, Cooper, White.   I'd be happy with any of those.   So why ask for a king's ransom to trade out?   To me, pick #6 plus a 3rd round pick is worth more than pick #3 alone. 

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I think this is the best scenario.  There would still be a good pass rusher or WR there at #6.  Plus, we would likely have the Jets 2nd round pick (37), giving us 2 picks in a row near the top of the 2nd round.  Dave could package these to move up fairly high into the first round if he wanted, but I think the value is in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this year.  We could come away with Vic Beasley + a WR, or Kevin White + a good RB for the #3 pick.

I'd take it.  We could get:

 

1. OLB Vic Beasley (6)

2. FS Eric Rowe (36)

2. WR Phillip Dorsett (37)

 

and still get a very good RB at #67 (Duke Johhson, David Johnson, Jeremy Langford, T.J. Yeldon, Buck Allen).

 

I might also ask for a 5th round pick.  And I'd be tempted to take Amari Cooper at #6 if he was there, then get a LEO at #36 (Eli Harold, Danielle Hunter).

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Look at the Rams they rotate dlineman like noones business and are stacked on the dline..

That's because they've had three years of double first round picks.

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I think that's wrong but it is your opinion. The point is an elite receiver is nice to have it just is not necessary for success.

I still don't get this sentiment, given that just about every team that drafts a QB high drafts receivers high to give him weapons.

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I still don't get this sentiment, given that just about every team that drafts a QB high drafts receivers high to give him weapons.

In my opinion the Jags have many more glaring needs than an elite receiver at 3. I don't think the two receivers will be Calvin or AJ and that would be the only way I'd consider a WR at 3. Couple that with it's an extremely deep draft for WRs then we could get a good receiver on day 2.


In the NFL you really only need one go to guy that you can rely on to get open, I think we already have that with Julius and Robinson. Also just look at the past SB winners(Pats, Hawks, Ravens, Giants, Packers etc) of the past 10+ years. You will rarely see an elite receiver, especially one that was taken in the top 5 of the NFL draft.


Jags need an elite pass rusher.

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Crab Cakes and Football! That's what Jacksonville does!

In my opinion the Jags have many more glaring needs than an elite receiver at 3. I don't think the two receivers will be Calvin or AJ and that would be the only way I'd consider a WR at 3. Couple that with it's an extremely deep draft for WRs then we could get a good receiver on day 2.


In the NFL you really only need one go to guy that you can rely on to get open, I think we already have that with Julius and Robinson. Also just look at the past SB winners(Pats, Hawks, Ravens, Giants, Packers etc) of the past 10+ years. You will rarely see an elite receiver, especially one that was taken in the top 5 of the NFL draft.


Jags need an elite pass rusher.

 

Okay...now this is a different argument that suggesting a team does not need a strong receiving corps to win.

 

This argument I get...though we differ on the definition of elite WR I guess.

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