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Poll: Should Gus Bradley be Fired this season
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Fire Gus Bradley (MERGED)

#61

Quote:I don't understand why so many people want to promote Marrone. In his very limited experience at HC, he has a losing record. We need to hire a winner and stay away from all these losers. He might be a good oline coach but that doesn't make him a good HC.
 

I think this was his short term interim solution to see if he can have an impact over 14 games

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#62

If they make a change - it'll more likely be HC and DC.


Probably not OC.
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#63

Quote:If they make a change - it'll more likely be HC and DC.


Probably not OC.
 

Maybe for this year, but a new HC next year isn't going to be handcuffed to an existing OC.

 

Heck, a new HC may not even be handcuffed to an existing GM.

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#64
(This post was last modified: 09-19-2016, 09:50 AM by JackCity.)

Quote:I thought about him as well. However, I don't want a guy that failed somewhere else (19-26 with the chefs) I'd rather go with a guy that has been highly productive as a DC or OC and its time for his shot. A guy like Sean McDermott is a perfect example. Pete Carmichael is another example. He's been so good for so long it concerns me that he has never gotten an offer. You get my point though.
He went 10-6 with Matt Cassel as QB. I wouldn't call that a failure.


I'd wager Sean McDermott would be better than Gus but really what's the difference between the two? He would just seem like a Gus rehash. Lest we forget that a fee years ago Gus was THE defensive coordinator to sign just like McDermott is today.
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#65

Give Marrone the reigns. If he makes playoffs, give him the permanent job until he proves he isn't capable.

 

Otherwise, ENOUGH WITH FIRST TIME COACHES. We need a proven winner who either retired from the NFL or a guy who is a winner but just ran his course with a team. I.e, TC.


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#66

Quote:Maybe for this year, but a new HC next year isn't going to be handcuffed to an existing OC.


Heck, a new HC may not even be handcuffed to an existing GM.
A change this year would be interim only.


Next year would be a coaching search and the new HCs own staff would follow.


GM is a different story. I'm sure there are some coaches that wouldn't want Caldwell, but I doubt that comes into play. I'd expect a new hire next year to work with Caldwell pretty easily.
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#67

Quote:A change this year would be interim only.


Next year would be a coaching search and the new HCs own staff would follow.


GM is a different story. I'm sure there are some coaches that wouldn't want Caldwell, but I doubt that comes into play. I'd expect a new hire next year to work with Caldwell pretty easily.
 

It really depends. Some guys will want personnel control or at least have a serious hand in it and that is something Khan will need to decide on during his search.

 

The problem with having such a bad coach is it eventually makes you question if the GM is making the right noves. I'm not saying Caldwell isn't drafting great talent, just saying it creeps into your mind.

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#68
(This post was last modified: 09-19-2016, 11:12 AM by Etdavis2006.)

Quote:My initial thought about all the 'fire Gus' talk is that it's a 'knee jerk' reaction to what was essentially grossly inflated expectations from the fans due to the team over hyping the new talent acquired since last season. While there is a fair amount of truth to this, it isn't the whole picture. The Jags were in a losing slump (mostly due to poor drafting by our former GM) prior to his (Gus Bradley) coming here. We then completly gutted the roster and started over, essentially from scratch. It takes time to acquire talent so for the past few years Gus has had a 'free pass' due to the team being in 'rebuild mode'. However, it is generally agreed that the team now has the talent to be competitive; perhaps not ready for the play-offs just yet, but nevertheless good enough to turn in at least an 8-8 season this year. We are once again starting the season 0-2. While the loss to Green Bay was disappointing, at least it was to a probable super bowl contender. And though we lost that game, at least we were 'in it' until the end of the game.


...not so against San Diego; we looked bad from the very start, really bad. Our offense couldn't move the ball. Bortles was a turn over machine. Our defense allowed the bolts to march right down the field on thier first possesion and score... and they never even looked back after that. We only put points on the board in 'garbage time' after Philip Rivers took a seat and the outcome was certain.


The bottom line is that the Jags looked overwhelmed and utterly unprepared to come to San Diego and play at a high level of competency... and that is a coaching failure. So while some are crowing for Gus's head on a platter... or at least for him to be fired as HC at J'ville immediately, this is simply an unrealistic option. We have no one with a proven record who is a better option than Gus at the moment. Marrone? He had a losing record for the short time he was a HC. He would only be suitable here as a temporary coach until the end of the season.


I think the better option is to let the season continue to play out with Gus as HC. If we reach at least 8-8 then all is well and Gus is vindicated as a HC. It is much better to have continuity at HC than to have to continually start over from scratch. If we fail to reach 8-8 by seasons end (or sooner if it becomes impossible to do so) then Gus has exhausted all excuses for failure and should be fired. But we still have 14 games in front of us and we only need to win eight of them for it to all be good.


Frankly, I didn't see us winning in San Diego anyway; Phillip Rivers is an elite quarterback and we have a lot of rookies and new people on our defense. It shouldn't come as all that much of a shock (assuming you weren't overly buying into the team hype) that we lost. Of course, that doesn't explain our offense imploding the way it did Sunday. Lack of discipline (aka-penalties) and turn overs are killing us. Among other words, we nearly beat ourselves as much as the other team beats us. Again, that is a coaching problem.


And the play calls! Ollie... please, stop with the screens or go work somewhere else. With seconds left at the end of a close game and at half time you chose to run a screen play!? No wonder other teams smile at the thought of playing the Jags!


I think our best shot at our first win will probably come in London. For now, we need to just settle down and re-group and cease and desist with the moronic calls for terminating Gus Bradley right now. It ain't gonna happen folks, so cool your jets for a little longer until we have clear evidence for how this season is going to go.
I honestly cannot tell if you are being sarcastic or not. Since you created such a long post I'll assume you are being for real...


Dude, you sound like me last year. You do realize this is year four and we look just as bad as year one? I have faught the good fight for Gus and his scheme and it is time to go. San Diego is not good. Rivers is good but they lost more games than we did last year. They were drafting ahead of us. It reminded me of the year we opened with Kansas City. They drafted 1 we drafted 2 and it was supposed to be a barometer for where the two teams were. A good way to gauge each teams talent. Well they mop the floor with us. Just like yesterday.


This team is bad cause of the coaching. I gave them a pass until the acquired the talent. Well the talent is there and the same mistakes exist. That was literally one of the worst losses ever for this franchise.


And the funny part is San Diego looked like the 90's cowgirls yesterday and next week they'll get whipped easily by whoever they play.


Time to wake up my friend. We have been duped. It's better to see if Marrone can salvage the season. If not, start over. I'm tired of giving Gus these extremely low expectations that he has yet to meet. Then once he finally meets them, he gets absolved of his sins. No time to move on. He's had his chance. Time to let the next guy get a shot.


If he makes 8-8 lol. Sounds like Gabbert "well he finally threw for 200 yards this game" lol


Time to move past this line of thinking. He had time and it looks the same with different players. It actually looks worse cause we won our second game last year


*end rant*
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#69

I want Edgar Bennett
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#70

McDaniels and Haley are interesting choices.


Anyone that is qualified to be a head coach has to look at the roster, the youth, and the cap situation and see the opportunity.
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#71

Quote:McDaniels and Haley are interesting choices.


Anyone that is qualified to be a head coach has to look at the roster, the youth, and the cap situation and see the opportunity.


I'd be okay with these guys,too
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#72

Marrone hasn't developed the OL into a unit that can be relied upon to be effective and consistent.  How is he the savior for this team when Gus eventually gets the boot?

 

No doubt, he'd be the interim head coach if the dismissal happens mid-season, but I don't see him as a viable long-term option.

 

Not to be someone who can't let go of the past, but I've spoken to some inside the organization who have indicated that Tom Coughlin would be a viable option to replace Gus.  The team is well aware that he feels like he's got more good coaching left in him, and from what I understand, they agree, and are not terribly concerned about the age.  It would be interesting to see if that actually comes to fruition.

 

What we saw yesterday SHOULD trigger the end of the Bradley era.  It won't happen this week, but if the team continues to look this bad through the bye, he'll be done.  There's no way the team can carry him beyond that and hope to keep the fans.


Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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#73

Quote:Marrone hasn't developed the OL into a unit that can be relied upon to be effective and consistent. How is he the savior for this team when Gus eventually gets the boot?


No doubt, he'd be the interim head coach if the dismissal happens mid-season, but I don't see him as a viable long-term option.


Not to be someone who can't let go of the past, but I've spoken to some inside the organization who have indicated that Tom Coughlin would be a viable option to replace Gus. The team is well aware that he feels like he's got more good coaching left in him, and from what I understand, they agree, and are not terribly concerned about the age. It would be interesting to see if that actually comes to fruition.


What we saw yesterday SHOULD trigger the end of the Bradley era. It won't happen this week, but if the team continues to look this bad through the bye, he'll be done. There's no way the team can carry him beyond that and hope to keep the fans.


Id fire Bradley immediately and give the job to Coughlin. Bet we would win the next 2 games.
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#74

Quote:Id fire Bradley immediately and give the job to Coughlin. Bet we would win the next 2 games.
They're not going to hire from outside in week 3.  Sorry. 

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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#75

I can't believe the entire season is lost after week 2. The ONLY team in the division that hasn't drafted a franchise QB is clearly the class of the division.

 

I really hate football sometimes.


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#76

This is GB's last season if he doesn't reach .500

If we continue this miserable start, might as well see if another coach can step up
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#77

Quote:This is GB's last season if he doesn't reach .500

If we continue this miserable start, might as well see if another coach can step up
 

Outside of making the playoffs, the writing is on the wall right now. You have seen the best GB has to offer. It isn't going to improve.

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#78

Quote:Marrone hasn't developed the OL into a unit that can be relied upon to be effective and consistent.  How is he the savior for this team when Gus eventually gets the boot?

 

No doubt, he'd be the interim head coach if the dismissal happens mid-season, but I don't see him as a viable long-term option.

 

Not to be someone who can't let go of the past, but I've spoken to some inside the organization who have indicated that Tom Coughlin would be a viable option to replace Gus.  The team is well aware that he feels like he's got more good coaching left in him, and from what I understand, they agree, and are not terribly concerned about the age.  It would be interesting to see if that actually comes to fruition.

 

What we saw yesterday SHOULD trigger the end of the Bradley era.  It won't happen this week, but if the team continues to look this bad through the bye, he'll be done.  There's no way the team can carry him beyond that and hope to keep the fans.
 

That would be verrrrry interesting. I think most if not all Jags fans would be elated to have Tom back. 

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#79
(This post was last modified: 09-19-2016, 11:20 AM by The Eleventh Doctor.)

Quote:If Caldwell and Khan are out looking for a new headcoach in 2017 it needs to be a proven commodity. They need to go out and break the bank for someone like Jim Harbaugh, Tom Coughlin, Tony Dungy, Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden. The only unknown commodity at headocach I'd be willing to see given the oppurtunity here is Matt Patricia from New England. And that's about it.
 

No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, NO!

 

Just say no to any NE coaches.  Unless Darth Hoodie himself decides he wants a challenge, and is willing to leave the Patriots.  


I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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#80

Quote:I can't believe the entire season is lost after week 2. The ONLY team in the division that hasn't drafted a franchise QB is clearly the class of the division.

 

I really hate football sometimes.
I don't see the season as lost, but I don't think that Gus could afford to have another one of those blowout losses that he's subjected us to over the past few years.  The expectation this year should have been to be more competitive, and to eliminate embarrassments like yesterday. 

 

I think we've done an amazing job of getting right to last place by week 2.  That takes some skill.  Fortunately, Indy has shown they want the cellar as badly as we do.

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