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Trump Assassination Attempt Part 2.

#61

(09-16-2024, 02:19 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: So is Kamala Harris for fracking now?

Where have you been, buried under a rock?   Kamala supports fracking and rolled out her plan a while back ..... see link below:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47
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(09-16-2024, 06:20 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(09-16-2024, 02:19 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: So is Kamala Harris for fracking now?

Where have you been, buried under a rock?   Kamala supports fracking and rolled out her plan a while back ..... see link below:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47

Lol. I appreciate you, man. I really do. I wish more of us, me included, were more critical of our candidates and parties on both sides. We've allowed the organizations which benefit from discord to keep us divided into bitter close-minded camps.  

As I've stated before, I'm trying to be more of an observer and to keep the antagonism at bay. I slip on occasion but it's a work in progress.
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#63

(09-16-2024, 07:05 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(09-15-2024, 07:49 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: Dude, smoke a fat one and calm down. It's crazy as in this is the second attempt on this man's life in a short period of time. When is the last time in history this has happened? 

You don't [BLEEP] about me or who/what I support. If it had been Harris or Biden I'd have the same response because unlike a lot of folks I actually do not support this kind of action regardless of who it's directed toward. 

Stop acting like a junkyard dog, foaming at the mouth and attacking others whose views you don't agree with. It makes you look desperate for attention.

Had you read the article you would know they caught the guy already.

Gerald Ford.  Two assassination attempts 18 days apart.

Thanks! I was 3 years old when that happened. I just read about the second attempt. Her motivation was to start a revolution for change. People are crazy. The 70s weren't without it's problems and we certainly have problems now, but assassination wasn't the answer then and it isn't now.
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#64

The attempted assassin has so many connections to democrats, news organizations, Ukraine, and more. They've connected his cell phone to meeting a potential handler many times. He wasn't from the area but knew Trump would be there when it wasn't on the schedule.

I think this guy is so over top that he can't really be cia, fbi, or state dept, unless that was the point to make it so obvious.

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#65

(09-16-2024, 04:50 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(09-16-2024, 01:55 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: The team behind it are 90% former or current members of his staff. 
Of course he tries to distance himself because it is radical - but it mentions his name 200 times and he references specific parts of its strategy in every one of his rallies. 

It's the plan and everyone knows it even if he tries to play dumb. 

This has got to be common knowledge to anyone that opposes him enough to want to kill him.
And the latest would be assassin was a republican who'd only become disenfranchised as recently as three years ago.

Could you give us names of current and/or former staffers with evidence of them being behind it?

The project might mention President Trump's name, but that doesn't really mean much.

What specific parts of it's strategy does he refer to in every one of his rallies?  No taxes on tips?  Secure the border?  Begin deporting illegal aliens?  No taxes on overtime?

Holy hell, you ppl live under a damn rock on this topic, huh? 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurke...recording/

I see news about the ties and references twice a week in my feeds and I follow sources, left, right and center. 
Every time he has a rally twitter is chock full of pundits outlining all the talking points that fit pro.2025
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(09-17-2024, 02:30 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(09-16-2024, 04:50 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Could you give us names of current and/or former staffers with evidence of them being behind it?

The project might mention President Trump's name, but that doesn't really mean much.

What specific parts of it's strategy does he refer to in every one of his rallies?  No taxes on tips?  Secure the border?  Begin deporting illegal aliens?  No taxes on overtime?

Holy hell, you ppl live under a damn rock on this topic, huh? 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurke...recording/

I see news about the ties and references twice a week in my feeds and I follow sources, left, right and center. 
Every time he has a rally twitter is chock full of pundits outlining all the talking points that fit pro.2025

The only problem I have with any of the quotes from people in the Key Facts is 1: that's what they're saying he said and 2: Trump says so many things, a lot of crazy things, so it's hard to know if half of what he says is something he actually has knowledge of or if he's saying something just to get a word in. I think most of the time he's talking without knowing what he's actually commenting on so it looks like he knows about it when he really doesn't. 

Narcissists love to hear themselves talk; love to make people think they know everything; will praise the 'little guy' because it makes him/her look good and they think the 'little guy' basks in his/her praise. 

I think it was Homebiscuit who pointed out in the Debate thread that he's an executive level guy who only knows so much about what's actually going on in any given situation and pays his middlemen to know details. I think there is definitely something to that. Regardless of who is POTUS, they only have so much knowledge about anything at any given time and is why he has VP, SoS, SECDEF, etc., to know specifics in order to handle situations and the POTUS is told the Cliff's Notes versions. This is true of CEOs of any company. 

Maybe Trump is legit in on this but I don't blindly trust he said/she said people who possibly have motive to say what they're saying.
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#67

(09-17-2024, 04:39 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:
(09-17-2024, 02:30 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Holy hell, you ppl live under a damn rock on this topic, huh? 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurke...recording/

I see news about the ties and references twice a week in my feeds and I follow sources, left, right and center. 
Every time he has a rally twitter is chock full of pundits outlining all the talking points that fit pro.2025

The only problem I have with any of the quotes from people in the Key Facts is 1: that's what they're saying he said and 2: Trump says so many things, a lot of crazy things, so it's hard to know if half of what he says is something he actually has knowledge of or if he's saying something just to get a word in. I think most of the time he's talking without knowing what he's actually commenting on so it looks like he knows about it when he really doesn't. 

Narcissists love to hear themselves talk; love to make people think they know everything; will praise the 'little guy' because it makes him/her look good and they think the 'little guy' basks in his/her praise. 

I think it was Homebiscuit who pointed out in the Debate thread that he's an executive level guy who only knows so much about what's actually going on in any given situation and pays his middlemen to know details. I think there is definitely something to that. Regardless of who is POTUS, they only have so much knowledge about anything at any given time and is why he has VP, SoS, SECDEF, etc., to know specifics in order to handle situations and the POTUS is told the Cliff's Notes versions. This is true of CEOs of any company. 

Maybe Trump is legit in on this but I don't blindly trust he said/she said people who possibly have motive to say what they're saying.

My Uncle knows a guy who said ... whatever he needed to avoid threats and possible prosecution....
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#68

What's Project 2025? Has anyone read it?
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#69
(This post was last modified: 09-17-2024, 06:09 PM by OG-JAGFAN.)

(09-16-2024, 06:20 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(09-16-2024, 02:19 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: So is Kamala Harris for fracking now?

Where have you been, buried under a rock?   Kamala supports fracking and rolled out her plan a while back ..... see link below:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47

aka she is saying that for the election but it will be shut down as soon as she gets into office

(09-17-2024, 05:59 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: What's Project 2025? Has anyone read it?

Trump does not back it but the Democrats keep trying to link him too it.  It is propaganda
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#70

(09-17-2024, 05:59 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: What's Project 2025? Has anyone read it?

I've read some chunks of it.
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#71

And? This is the exact same type of commission they used to give Reagan a plan for his administration. You're a conservative (lol). You shouldn't have any problems with it, so what do you think? And before we begin, explain chunks. I have a feeling you mean an article that cherry picked information to paint it in the worst light possible.

I finally got tired of hearing about it and started reading it. It looks like a traditional conservative platform so far, but I'm only 30 pages in. Conservatives are such [BLEEP].
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#72
(This post was last modified: 09-17-2024, 07:10 PM by mikesez. Edited 2 times in total.)

(09-17-2024, 06:58 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: And? This is the exact same type of commission they used to give Reagan a plan for his administration. You're a conservative (lol). You shouldn't have any problems with it, so what do you think? And before we begin, explain chunks. I have a feeling you mean an article that cherry picked information to paint it in the worst light possible.

I finally got tired of hearing about it and started reading it. It looks like a traditional conservative platform so far, but I'm only 30 pages in. Conservatives are such [BLEEP].

I've read articles about it and the first 10 or 20 pages of the thing itself, along with random chunks in the middle.
I recall I read some things about firing federal workers without cause and banning the morning after pill via executive action.
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#73
(This post was last modified: 09-18-2024, 07:08 AM by The Real Marty. Edited 2 times in total.)

(09-17-2024, 06:58 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: And? This is the exact same type of commission they used to give Reagan a plan for his administration. You're a conservative (lol). You shouldn't have any problems with it, so what do you think? And before we begin, explain chunks. I have a feeling you mean an article that cherry picked information to paint it in the worst light possible.

I finally got tired of hearing about it and started reading it. It looks like a traditional conservative platform so far, but I'm only 30 pages in. Conservatives are such [BLEEP].

Since you are reading it, can you tell me, does it call for firing 50,000 federal workers and replacing them with political appointees?  That's what I have read about it, but I haven't read the actual document.
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#74

https://theferalirishman.blogspot.com/20...knows.html

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#75

(09-18-2024, 09:42 AM)Caldrac Wrote: https://theferalirishman.blogspot.com/20...knows.html

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Where there's smoke, there's fire..
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#76
(This post was last modified: 09-18-2024, 10:22 AM by Jag149. Edited 1 time in total.)

(09-18-2024, 09:46 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(09-18-2024, 09:42 AM)Caldrac Wrote: https://theferalirishman.blogspot.com/20...knows.html

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Where there's smoke, there's fire..

They were just recruiting a nut case, problem is they need to recruit better nut cases. They were going to make him the richest man in Topeaka...anyone find out what was in those foreign accounts of the first shooter yet?
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#77

(09-18-2024, 07:03 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(09-17-2024, 06:58 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: And? This is the exact same type of commission they used to give Reagan a plan for his administration. You're a conservative (lol). You shouldn't have any problems with it, so what do you think? And before we begin, explain chunks. I have a feeling you mean an article that cherry picked information to paint it in the worst light possible.

I finally got tired of hearing about it and started reading it. It looks like a traditional conservative platform so far, but I'm only 30 pages in. Conservatives are such [BLEEP].

Since you are reading it, can you tell me, does it call for firing 50,000 federal workers and replacing them with political appointees?  That's what I have read about it, but I haven't read the actual document.

Since I brought up this Heritage foundation outline for Trump's potential presidency as a reason the candidate may be targeted for assassination attempts, I'll give some outline on the things that may have the wacko's scoping out golf courses:
  • Severely limiting abortion access nationwide by reversing the FDA’s approval of mifepristone, a drug used in medication abortion, and reviving a 19th century law, the Comstock Act, to ban any abortion medications, equipment, or materials from being sent through the U.S. Postal Service.
  • Targeting immigrant communities through mass deportations and raids, ending birthright citizenship, separating families, and dismantling our nation’s asylum system.
  • Exploiting the executive branch’s vast and unprecedented powers to spy on Americans’ lives with warrantless surveillance of our data.
  • Violating the First Amendment by using federal law enforcement to target journalists and protestors.
  • Abusing executive power to interfere in our elections by criminalizing the voting process and damaging fair representation.

I bolded that ^ last one because it is the one that folks believe is setting up the most impactful corruption. 
Here are more details on the plan take election management from the states and allow executively placed federal entities control over the process and outcome. 

  • ●  Criminalizing the Voting Process: Project 2025 would shift responsibility for prosecuting election-related offenses from the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division to the Criminal Division — saying that “Otherwise, voter registration fraud and unlawful ballot correction will remain federal election offenses that are never appropriately investigated and prosecuted.” This will open the door to sham investigations and aggressive prosecutions of voters and election officials. It will serve to intimidate state and local election workers already under threat and could criminalize election administration disputes.
  • ●  Allowing the Proliferation of Online Misinformation and Disinformation Relating to Elections: Project 2025 would end ongoing federal efforts by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to combat online disinformation and threats to secure elections, and it would scale back federal technical assistance to state and local governments close to Election Day.
  • ●  Allowing Government Access to State Voter Rolls: Project 2025 would require state and local recipients of DHS grant funding to meet certain pre-conditions for eligibility, such as a commitment to total information-sharing that would allow access to department of motor vehicles and voter registration databases. This would interfere with state maintenance of voter lists in order to cast doubt on the legitimacy of election results and allow the administration to collect voter rolls in order to deploy aggressive voter purges that disenfranchise voters.



Regarding the civil workforce:

Union leaders estimate 500,000 government jobs would be in jeopardy. I think that is a gross exaggeration, but six figures may not be. 

Some of the suggestions in the overhaul to gov employment seem fairly mundane, but when you add them all up it strips these workers of any job security and allows a seated administration to gain influence over multiple  independent gov. agencies by filling them with its choice of worker bees.
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(This post was last modified: 09-18-2024, 11:16 AM by StroudCrowd1.)

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...mXzgQ&s=19

A logical voter would begin to ask themselves why they want this man dead.
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(This post was last modified: 09-18-2024, 04:39 PM by Lucky2Last. Edited 1 time in total.)

(09-18-2024, 11:02 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(09-18-2024, 07:03 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Since you are reading it, can you tell me, does it call for firing 50,000 federal workers and replacing them with political appointees?  That's what I have read about it, but I haven't read the actual document.

Since I brought up this Heritage foundation outline for Trump's potential presidency as a reason the candidate may be targeted for assassination attempts, I'll give some outline on the things that may have the wacko's scoping out golf courses:
  • Severely limiting abortion access nationwide by reversing the FDA’s approval of mifepristone, a drug used in medication abortion, and reviving a 19th century law, the Comstock Act, to ban any abortion medications, equipment, or materials from being sent through the U.S. Postal Service.
  • Targeting immigrant communities through mass deportations and raids, ending birthright citizenship, separating families, and dismantling our nation’s asylum system.
  • Exploiting the executive branch’s vast and unprecedented powers to spy on Americans’ lives with warrantless surveillance of our data.
  • Violating the First Amendment by using federal law enforcement to target journalists and protestors.
  • Abusing executive power to interfere in our elections by criminalizing the voting process and damaging fair representation.

I bolded that ^ last one because it is the one that folks believe is setting up the most impactful corruption. 
Here are more details on the plan take election management from the states and allow executively placed federal entities control over the process and outcome. 

  • ●  Criminalizing the Voting Process: Project 2025 would shift responsibility for prosecuting election-related offenses from the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division to the Criminal Division — saying that “Otherwise, voter registration fraud and unlawful ballot correction will remain federal election offenses that are never appropriately investigated and prosecuted.” This will open the door to sham investigations and aggressive prosecutions of voters and election officials. It will serve to intimidate state and local election workers already under threat and could criminalize election administration disputes.
  • ●  Allowing the Proliferation of Online Misinformation and Disinformation Relating to Elections: Project 2025 would end ongoing federal efforts by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to combat online disinformation and threats to secure elections, and it would scale back federal technical assistance to state and local governments close to Election Day.
  • ●  Allowing Government Access to State Voter Rolls: Project 2025 would require state and local recipients of DHS grant funding to meet certain pre-conditions for eligibility, such as a commitment to total information-sharing that would allow access to department of motor vehicles and voter registration databases. This would interfere with state maintenance of voter lists in order to cast doubt on the legitimacy of election results and allow the administration to collect voter rolls in order to deploy aggressive voter purges that disenfranchise voters.



Regarding the civil workforce:

Union leaders estimate 500,000 government jobs would be in jeopardy. I think that is a gross exaggeration, but six figures may not be. 

Some of the suggestions in the overhaul to gov employment seem fairly mundane, but when you add them all up it strips these workers of any job security and allows a seated administration to gain influence over multiple  independent gov. agencies by filling them with its choice of worker bees.


It's a 900 page document. It's slow reading. It will take me a while. I'm almost positive what's been posted about it is a misrepresentation of it, but I can't be certain as of yet. I'll address these issues. 

That said, I'm sure there are some conservative positions that democrats won't like. Who gives a [BLEEP]... they are different parties for a reason. This notion that dems hold a moral truth and Republicans can't attempt to counter it is laughable. 

Republicans need to stop being so soft and tell democrats to suck it. There's a reason people like Trump. Maybe when other Republicans stop apologizing for having a different opinion and fight for their right to govern, we can stop having to listen to trump talk about cat food and banging Laura Loomer.
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