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*** Official Game Thread - Week 4 - Jags @ Bungles***

(This post was last modified: 10-01-2021, 08:25 AM by SamusAranX.)

(10-01-2021, 08:22 AM)CTEisREAL Wrote: I thought Lawrence looked good last night.  I still think hiring Urban was a mis hire.  He is not made for the NFL.  I do not like all the QB runs and think Lawrence is going to get hurt if he keeps this stuff up.

I am not Urban’s biggest fan by far, but cmon. This was the first game we used any option / designed runs for Trevor really at all. You act like they’ve been running him multiple times every game
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(09-30-2021, 03:15 PM)Dimson Wrote:
(09-30-2021, 12:16 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: JRob coming out party. 26 carries, 168 yds, 2TDs.

Jags lose 32-17.

If this happens, no way we lose.

Dang it. It happened and we lost. Just not 32-17, lol.
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(This post was last modified: 10-01-2021, 08:39 AM by DTWD4∞. Edited 1 time in total.)

Herndon definitely showed rust if not downright confusion. Nut the one who really looks confused is Myles Jack. Without Poz or Telvin, he seems lost out there. O-line stated in his thread that we should end the experiment with Chaisson. To a degree I think he is right. but if they did, I would move Myles to that OLB spot and put Quarterman next to Wilson in the middle. Let Russel spell them when needed
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(This post was last modified: 10-01-2021, 09:17 AM by YouMadThough.)

Jags were getting away with false starts and holding all night. Did you miss those?

(10-01-2021, 08:25 AM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(10-01-2021, 08:22 AM)CTEisREAL Wrote: I thought Lawrence looked good last night.  I still think hiring Urban was a mis hire.  He is not made for the NFL.  I do not like all the QB runs and think Lawrence is going to get hurt if he keeps this stuff up.

I am not Urban’s biggest fan by far, but cmon. This was the first game we used any option / designed runs for Trevor really at all. You act like they’ve been running him multiple times every game

Running Lawrence at the goal line wad a moronic idea. Meyer has a beast in Robinson, why the F would you run your franchise QB ????
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(10-01-2021, 09:15 AM)YouMadThough Wrote: Jags were getting away with false starts and holding all night. Did you miss those?

(10-01-2021, 08:25 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: I am not Urban’s biggest fan by far, but cmon. This was the first game we used any option / designed runs for Trevor really at all. You act like they’ve been running him multiple times every game

Running Lawrence at the goal line wad a moronic idea. Meyer has a beast in Robinson, why the F would you run your franchise QB ????

He still thinks Lawrence is Tebow.
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Joe Burrow is one of the most intelligent quaterbacks that I have ever seen play.
Respect the game.  Play with a sense of urgency. 


1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  
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(10-01-2021, 06:50 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(10-01-2021, 05:43 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: This is what I saw too. He rolled out of collapsing pockets and could find no help.

Troy Aikman made the same point.  He said when the pocket broke down and Trevor was forced to scramble, his receivers were not helping him out.  They were just continuing their routes at a trot and not making moves to get open.

One thing in particular that surprised me in this game is that Marvin Jones isn't further along with Trevor Lawrence, in their chemistry on scramble / fire drills.  It's possible the shoulder injury Marvin Jones has been dealing with has limited his opportunities to do so.  On similar plays the last few seasons, Jones would often go deep, and Matthew Stafford would connect with him ( or come close ) to connecting on big plays.  At other times, Jones would head. towards the sideline, back towards Stafford.  I definitely think receivers doing more to help Trevor Lawrence on these type of plays should be a point of emphasis by the Jaguars coaches, moving forward.

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(10-01-2021, 12:19 PM)jagsfan06 Wrote: Joe Burrow is one of the most intelligent quaterbacks that I have ever seen play.

Burrow was right there with Luck and Lawrence as a prospect imo
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(10-01-2021, 07:13 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: The throw to Agnew from Trevor told me all I need to know

Same here.  That play could easily end up being one of the best QB to WR plays in the NFL all season.  Terrific throw and catch.

Along with thinking that Trevor Lawrence has the look of a QB who will eventually live up to his draft billing,  I'm impressed at how far Jamal Agnew has come as a WR.  Last season, one in which there was no team off-season activities or pre-season games, was Agnew's first season as a full time WR.  He was previously a backup Nickel CB and used on a select amount of gadget plays on Offense.

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(10-01-2021, 01:05 PM)D6 Wrote:
(10-01-2021, 07:13 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: The throw to Agnew from Trevor told me all I need to know

Same here.  That play could easily end up being one of the best QB to WR plays in the NFL all season.  Terrific throw and catch.

Along with thinking that Trevor Lawrence has the look of a QB who will eventually live up to his draft billing,  I'm impressed at how far Jamal Agnew has come as a WR.  Last season, one in which there was no team off-season activities or pre-season games, was Agnew's first season as a full time WR.  He was previously a backup Nickel CB and used on a select amount of gadget plays on Offense.

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(10-01-2021, 09:15 AM)YouMadThough Wrote: Jags were getting away with false starts and holding all night. Did you miss those?

(10-01-2021, 08:25 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: I am not Urban’s biggest fan by far, but cmon. This was the first game we used any option / designed runs for Trevor really at all. You act like they’ve been running him multiple times every game

Running Lawrence at the goal line wad a moronic idea. Meyer has a beast in Robinson, why the F would you run your franchise QB ????

I was referring to, or I should say disagreeing, with your notion that if Meyer keeps this up Trevor will get hurt. If Trevor has been sent into the teeth of the defense for four weeks straight, I would agree, but I think it was more of they saw something in the Bungles defense they liked, and took the look. I don't think this will be a regular occurrence every game
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(10-01-2021, 01:21 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(10-01-2021, 09:15 AM)YouMadThough Wrote: Jags were getting away with false starts and holding all night. Did you miss those?


Running Lawrence at the goal line wad a moronic idea. Meyer has a beast in Robinson, why the F would you run your franchise QB ????

I was referring to, or I should say disagreeing, with your notion that if Meyer keeps this up Trevor will get hurt. If Trevor has been sent into the teeth of the defense for four weeks straight, I would agree, but I think it was more of they saw something in the Bungles defense they liked, and took the look. I don't think this will be a regular occurrence every game

I love Trevor running read option. He is great at it.
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(10-01-2021, 12:19 PM)jagsfan06 Wrote: Joe Burrow is one of the most intelligent quaterbacks that I have ever seen play.

Ok, thus far this season, Tyrod Taylor, Teddy Bridgewater, and Joe Burrow pretty much looked like the most intelligent QBs in the history of the NFL.  Get where I'm going with this one?  Somewhere along the line, there is a common denominator.
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Well we're getting closer...
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(10-01-2021, 02:23 PM)Dimson Wrote:
(10-01-2021, 01:21 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: I was referring to, or I should say disagreeing, with your notion that if Meyer keeps this up Trevor will get hurt. If Trevor has been sent into the teeth of the defense for four weeks straight, I would agree, but I think it was more of they saw something in the Bungles defense they liked, and took the look. I don't think this will be a regular occurrence every game

I love Trevor running read option. He is great at it.

I kinda like it.
I'd just like to see about 50% less of it. 

Primarily because it often robs JR of better designed run plays, secondarily because i'd like a little less risk for Trevor.
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(10-01-2021, 06:29 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-01-2021, 02:23 PM)Dimson Wrote: I love Trevor running read option. He is great at it.

I kinda like it.
I'd just like to see about 50% less of it. 

Primarily because it often robs JR of better designed run plays, secondarily because i'd like a little less risk for Trevor.

I agree. Much better as a surprise than a feature.
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(10-02-2021, 12:51 AM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...Z7_Ag&s=19

Muy interesante
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(09-30-2021, 11:22 PM)jagherd Wrote: I don't understand why they didn't call a "freeze the kicker" timeout there. End the game with a timeout in your pocket.

Shoudve used it

Icing is stupid.  Statistics have shown on short kicks, it actually helps the kicker.  On long kicks, it's more in doubt.  Some, and I emphasize the word some, have shown a very minor benefit, but I highly suspect that is just a statistical anomaly or the fact that the statistics aren't considering all factors.  Some have also run the numbers and it has shown no benefit even on long kicks.

Personally, if I was the kicker, I would want the other team to "ice" me.  You get a few extra moments to take some deep breaths and calm yourself.
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