Most people don't recall that AP was coming off of an injury as well.


Actually I really did mean the #1 pick in the draft --- I should have clarified. Bottom line, independent of the personnel currently on the roster .... is AP worth a #1 pick in this years draft? If you were starting a franchise, would you take AP over the rest of the field in the draft?

yes

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1. LW not universally agreed as the best player in the draft.

2. LW not the best defensive player as far as needs are concerned either. 

You and the dude who agreed with you are wrong. Your second point is irrelevant to my comment because it wasn't my argument and you're still wrong.

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You and the dude who agreed with you are wrong. Your second point is irrelevant to my comment because it wasn't my argument and you're still wrong.

No, Leonard Williams is NOT universally agreed to be the best player in the draft. There are plenty that have doubts about him.

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No, Leonard Williams is NOT universally agreed to be the best player in the draft. There are plenty that have doubts about him.

Maybe it's not unanimous, but the majority agree it's him.

 

Per Rotoworld:


 

In a poll of 19 NFL executives done by the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 10 named USC DT Leonard Williams as the No. 1 player in the 2015 draft.


Alabama WR Amari Cooper finished a distant second with four votes. Oregon QB Marcus Mariota (2 1/2) was third, Florida DE/OLB Dante Fowler and Wisconsin RB Melvin Gordon each received one vote, and Georgia RB Todd Gurley got the final half-vote. (Notice Jameis Winston received no first-place votes.) Although there has been some recent scuttlebutt of Williams falling in the draft, it's hard to imagine him getting past the Raiders at No. 4 or Redskins at No. 5. And Williams could still easily go second overall to the Titans.
 

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Maybe it's not unanimous, but the majority agree it's him.

 

Per Rotoworld:

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Pretty much this.  The majority think he is the best, but its only like a 50% majority.  Clearly not consensus or unanimous.  Nothing like Clowney last year and Clowney had a lot of criticism heaped his way.

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Maybe it's not unanimous, but the majority agree it's him.

 

 

 

Don't tell that to KYJaggy 

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Don't tell that to KYJaggy 

 

Ya'll lame-o's probably just parrot everything that Kiper and "Big Draft" are selling you.

 

The real Tweet Scouts know what's up.

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Maybe it's not unanimous, but the majority agree it's him.


Per Rotoworld:

A 53% majority is far from universally accepted.

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Pretty much this.  The majority think he is the best, but its only like a 50% majority.  Clearly not consensus or unanimous.  Nothing like Clowney last year and Clowney had a lot of criticism heaped his way.

 

Still, 50% is a lot.  It's not a toss-up like some people on this board make it sound.

 

And who knows what that poll would've been like last year.  I remember some people claiming Khalil Mack is the best overall player, so I'm sure some teams would've agreed.

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Don't tell that to KYJaggy 

I have always said it's 50/50, and that looks to be pretty much exactly what it is.

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Maybe it's not unanimous, but the majority agree it's him.

 

Per Rotoworld:

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gimme him at 3!

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

A 53% majority is far from universally accepted.

I said the majority, not that he universally accepted.

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I said the majority, not that he universally accepted.

That was directed at P.Haze.

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That was directed at P.Haze.

Gotcha.  :thumbsup:

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I have always said it's 50/50, and that looks to be pretty much exactly what it is.

 

what about the NFL draft guys you follow, are they 50/50 or what?

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what about the NFL draft guys you follow, are they 50/50 or what?

Probably like 40/60, maybe 35/65, for the up and coming draftniks. 

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Draftniks is such a dumb term.


That is all....

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Draftniks is such a dumb term.


That is all....

 

 

All?!?! All what?!?!?!

 

Come on man! Don't leave me hangin'!

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

Draftniks is such a dumb term.


That is all....

And "up and coming draftniks" is even worse.

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