Fair points.

 

I base my assumption on the NFCS being on a level that might be won by the Falcons, and they're not a good team.

 

Maybe the Colts couldn't eek out the 8 wins they'd have needed in that division, either, but I think they'd probably have been able to do it.

 

Eight wins are not necessary to win the NFC South. The winner of that division will be either 7-8-1 or 7-9.

 

We will find out next year if the Colts would have a winning record in the NFC South. Let's see what they do against the Saints, Falcons, and Panthers before making any more assumptions.

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Eight wins are not necessary to win the NFC South. The winner of that division will be either 7-8-1 or 7-9.

 

We will find out next year if the Colts would have a winning record in the NFC South. Let's see what they do against the Saints, Falcons, and Panthers before making any more assumptions.

 

So the colts would need one more win than them...

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Ahh, another Hall of Fame voter telling us that "Pagano is just a guy". Thanks for that great insight, coach.

 

1.  So, Pagano is just a another guy, or the roster is poor? You seem confused - how about picking one or the other.

 

You spend a lot of time trying to convince us that Luck isn't very good (like we don't have access to video), now you say the coach isn't very good, and yet the Colts get into the playoffs each year. Oh yeah - it's the division they're in! The same division three other teams are in. 

 

2.  Instead of being all defensive about Luck or Pagano or the Colts I think I'll give them some credit for knowing what they're doing and hope Bortles and the Jaguars some day reach their level of success.

 

RE #1:  With all due respect, some people have the ability to recognize multiple issues at the same time.  Picking one or the other may help some who get easily confused to understand situations that are complex.  But simple reasons are usually not the entire answer.  It very well could be 2 situations that are equally valid.  Don't be upset if it's too difficult for you to understand this.  

 

RE #2:  Again, with all due respect, I'd rather not be the clots.  Yes, they have had success, but whether you want to believe it or not, alot of it has to due with the weak division they find themselves in.  The jags and tacks have been total garbage.  And the tinhorns have no QB.  The clots have a bad O-Line, almost as bad as us.  They have no running game.  And they have a pretty soft defense.  

 

But hey, if you love how well they are doing over in Indy, more power to ya.  I'd prefer the way Caldwell is building our team.  But that's just me, cuz I'm a Jaguars fan.   :thanks:

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If they don't find a defense and a running game, it won't matter what Luck does, it will never be enough.

 

It's up to their GM and HC if the clots are ever going to be an AFC powerhouse and truly challenge for a SB.

 

Luck has carried the clots as far as he can, he needs help to go any further.

 

YES.

 

p.s. denver = 111.3 ypg rushing, 4 ypa

       indy     = 110.5 ypg rushing, 4.1 ypa

 

but OMG THE COLTS HAVE NO RUN GAME AND CANT WIN UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS!!!! THEIR DEFENSE AND RUN GAME IS JUST SO INFERIOR TO THE BRONCOS!!!

 

so inferior, that theyre both almost identical!

 

again, peyton gets it done under the same conditions that luck cant.

 

I got Colts at 103.2 ypg rushing. Take out Luck's rushing yards and it drops to 85.3 ypg.

 

Come on man, you're really showing your lack of perspective and knowledge right now... Luck has had a horrible December.  There's no way to deny that.  Just deal with it.  

 

Hopefully he shows up for the playoffs.  But it's not like there is much of a precident for it...  

 

He's not been a world beater yet in the playoffs.  He's still an unknown commodity...

 

does he have potential?  Yes.  Has he lived up to his hype.  Not yet.  He's just too inconsistent.  Sorry, but that's just how it is.

 

Absolutely. Luck has really slumped this December. I haven't denied that. However, he's really the least of the concern. He's getting NO HELP. Especially in that Dallas game. It was 21-0 before he got a first down (with multiple drops prior to that, that would have given the Colts first downs)!

 

nice to see coltswarrior never came back after all that information i provided. my inferior brain strained hard for all of that.

 

I told you I'd be back. I do not live on this board like most.

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Absolutely. Luck has really slumped this December. I haven't denied that. However, he's really the least of the concern. He's getting NO HELP. Especially in that Dallas game. It was 21-0 before he got a first down (with multiple drops prior to that, that would have given the Colts first downs)!

 

 

I told you I'd be back. I do not live on this board like most.

 

I hear ya.  The one thing that, as a Jaguars fan, I find comfort in is the lack of accuracy I see on his mid and long passes.  You are right, Luck got no help yesterday.  His WRs dropped alot of balls.  But there were a several balls that were dropped because they were not on target or under-thrown.

 

There was one ball in particular that was 20 yards down field to a wide open TE and luck completely underthrew him...  The TE did get his hands on it, so you can blame the TE a bit for it.  But if one is to expect luck to reach the exalted position of the next Marino, Elway, Brady, or <insert favorite QB here> those passes have to be better thrown by luck.

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I hear ya.  The one thing that, as a Jaguars fan, I find comfort in is the lack of accuracy I see on his mid and long passes.  You are right, Luck got no help yesterday.  His WRs dropped alot of balls.  But there were a several balls that were dropped because they were not on target or under-thrown.

 

There was one ball in particular that was 20 yards down field to a wide open TE and luck completely underthrew him...  The TE did get his hands on it, so you can blame the TE a bit for it.  But if one is to expect luck to reach the exalted position of the next Marino, Elway, Brady, or <insert favorite QB here> those passes have to be better thrown by luck.

 

well luck running it is still part of the rushing totals and the defensive stats are almost the same too. but hey, whatever justifies it for you.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Luck will probably never be the "elite" guy the media tries to sell us on a weekly basis, and lets be honest. He isn't good looking enough to make me want to buy a 6" sub or a cell phone.

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Luck will probably never be the "elite" guy the media tries to sell us on a weekly basis, and lets be honest. He isn't good looking enough to make me want to buy a 6" sub or a cell phone.

 

Do looks really matter?

 

I don't know that I've ever heard anyone exclaim how handsome Peyton looks on his Buick and Papa Johns commercials.

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Do looks really matter?

 

I don't know that I've ever heard anyone exclaim how handsome Peyton looks on his Buick and Papa Johns commercials.

 

LOL, but Manning has somewhat of a normal face....  Luck?  not so much

 

The other thing is that luck has a voice made for silent movies.  He's the complete opposite of a marketable spokesman.  

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LOL, but Manning has somewhat of a normal face....  Luck?  not so much

 

The other thing is that luck has a voice made for silent movies.  He's the complete opposite of a marketable spokesman.  

 

You think so?

 

I always felt like he was bolts on his neck away from being Frankenstein's monster.

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You think so?

 

I always felt like he was bolts on his neck away from being Frankenstein's monster.

 

LOL, Boris Karloff ain't got nuthin' on luck!  

 

I've changed my mind, luck should definately be a cover boy!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The cover of the Frankenberry Cereal box!!  Heyyy yoooo!

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From Yahoo's Winners and Losers column:


" From
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/mchappell51/status/546832269793849347'> Mike Chappell of RTV6,</a> the Colts have allowed Romo,
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5228/'>Tom Brady</a>, Peyton Manning and Roethlisberger to complete
99 of 135 passes for 1,331 yards, 15 touchdowns and two interceptions this season. That’s a 133.1 rating. And the Colts are going to face some good quarterbacks in the playoffs. Maybe the Colts can win a January game or two if Luck gets really hot, but he would have to overcome a roster that’s not as good as its 10-5 record would indicate."


Interesting stat about top QBs. I knew the Colts roster was not top notch yet and needed some work, but apparently their D is a lot worse than I realized.

Their D has also bailed them out a few times. Think about all the turnovers luck had against the jags, he was also dreadful against the Browns.

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I hear ya. The one thing that, as a Jaguars fan, I find comfort in is the lack of accuracy I see on his mid and long passes. You are right, Luck got no help yesterday. His WRs dropped alot of balls. But there were a several balls that were dropped because they were not on target or under-thrown.


There was one ball in particular that was 20 yards down field to a wide open TE and luck completely underthrew him... The TE did get his hands on it, so you can blame the TE a bit for it. But if one is to expect luck to reach the exalted position of the next Marino, Elway, Brady, or <insert favorite QB here> those passes have to be better thrown by luck.

That play you mention was funny, it would have been a good catch on a horribly under thrown ball and they blame the tight end.


A couple of weeks ago Lewis dropped a perfect pass wide open and the announcer claimed the throw by Bottles was behind him even though it hit him perfectly in stride.


Sometimes the difference between quarterbacks is purely peoples biases and perceptions. Luck seems to always be talked of favourably, you see him regularly make bad decisions and the announcers never acknowledge it. While If Defenders drop a Bortles pass they will bang on about his poor decision making for 5 mins.

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coming soon MissColtsFanatic

 

I could actually feel this exact post coming and BOOM, there it is.

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I survived the Gus Bradley Error.

I could actually feel this exact post coming and BOOM, there it is.

 

youre clairvoyant, sir.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

You sure were apologetic about them here: http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/top...age-board/

 

So what? I never called myself a Colts fan in that thread. In fact I clearly stated I am a Jaguars fan.

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So what? I called myself a Colts fan in that thread.

 

Thanks for acknowledging it.

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Thanks for acknowledging it.

 

Oops, I forget the word never for some reason.

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Thanks for acknowledging it.

 

i think the only teams she isnt a fan of at this point is the raiders and tacks

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."