This move should have been made 11 months ago. Caldwell flushed two more first rounders that someone else could have used building toward a future. Hoping Khan instructed Marrone to make sure the draft position doesn't get any worse and he can keep his job through the end of the season.

Naw the Henderson pick was fine and is a piece on Defense going forward. 

Chaisson might be another story though. Dude hasn't even flashed this season. I know he was raw coming out and needs some time, but you'd at least like to see some flashes here and there. He hasn't shown much of anything so far.

Viska is another piece on Offense going forward as well.

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This move should have been made 11 months ago. Caldwell flushed two more first rounders that someone else could have used building toward a future. Hoping Khan instructed Marrone to make sure the draft position doesn't get any worse and he can keep his job through the end of the season.

Naw the Henderson pick was fine and is a piece on Defense going forward. 

Chaisson might be another story though. Dude hasn't even flashed this season. I know he was raw coming out and needs some time, but you'd at least like to see some flashes here and there. He hasn't shown much of anything so far.

Viska is another piece on Offense going forward as well.

Wirfs/Wills and Jefferson (like many on the board were calling for) over Henderson and Chaisson.

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Naw the Henderson pick was fine and is a piece on Defense going forward. 

Chaisson might be another story though. Dude hasn't even flashed this season. I know he was raw coming out and needs some time, but you'd at least like to see some flashes here and there. He hasn't shown much of anything so far.

Viska is another piece on Offense going forward as well.

Wirfs/Wills and Jefferson (like many on the board were calling for) over Henderson and Chaisson.

If you did a board poll when we were on the clock for each pick we would have one of Wirfs/Wills/Becton, Jefferson, and Winfield Jr. No doubt.

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Naw the Henderson pick was fine and is a piece on Defense going forward. 

Chaisson might be another story though. Dude hasn't even flashed this season. I know he was raw coming out and needs some time, but you'd at least like to see some flashes here and there. He hasn't shown much of anything so far.

Viska is another piece on Offense going forward as well.

Wirfs/Wills and Jefferson (like many on the board were calling for) over Henderson and Chaisson.

Could have went with Becton/Wills/Wirfs and that would have been just fine as well, but it still doesn't mean the Henderson pick was bad/a waste.

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the next move minshew to ir and start luke for the rest of the season. minshew would go out there and win us some games

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the next move minshew to ir and start luke for the rest of the season. minshew would go out there and win us some games

Yep just like he did this season..oh wait.

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the next move minshew to ir and start luke for the rest of the season. minshew would go out there and win us some games

Start Luton next week and let him throw 40+ times.

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the next move minshew to ir and start luke for the rest of the season. minshew would go out there and win us some games

Yep just like he did this season..oh wait.

if we had a defense that did not let the other teams score 30 + points for a record number of times in a row yes he played good enough to win those games come on man think

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Was about time and due. We can always argue about the coaching staff and all that like we do every week on here (rightly so) but the main issue Dave failed to solve is problem number 1 in football: Caldwell didn't get us a franchise QB, for years we've pretty much always faced other teams with a better QB than ours.

Even with a roster as young and as dismantled and incomplete as ours we have been competitive in more games than not and with a franchise QB results would have been much different (or are you telling me that flipping Luton with Watson we aren't winning that game? just to give an exemple).

There is room for discussion on the good and bad things we did (and the Coughlin years are another huge different story) but his first round failures and not having selected "the guy" at QB made the firing a logical choice.

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the next move minshew to ir and start luke for the rest of the season. minshew would go out there and win us some games

Yep just like he did this season..oh wait.

The only win we had was with minshew. If the goal is first overall we need Luton back out there, even glennon is looking dangerous enough to get a pointless late season win when our opponents are resting starters.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

Im only shocked that marrone snd wash are not fired. I would have fired wash first.

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Im only shocked that marrone snd wash are not fired. I would have fired wash first.

I'm fine with making him suffer the last 5 weeks.  At least it should lock in the #2 draft pick for us.

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This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.

I have to hope that Marrone also gets the axe. Little concerning that he hasn't tbh

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I honestly feel that this is the wrong move but as per Adam Shefter, Caldwell just got fired...

NH3...

Explain yourself!

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This move should have been made 11 months ago. Caldwell flushed two more first rounders that someone else could have used building toward a future. Hoping Khan instructed Marrone to make sure the draft position doesn't get any worse and he can keep his job through the end of the season.

Naw the Henderson pick was fine and is a piece on Defense going forward. 

Chaisson might be another story though. Dude hasn't even flashed this season. I know he was raw coming out and needs some time, but you'd at least like to see some flashes here and there. He hasn't shown much of anything so far.

Viska is another piece on Offense going forward as well.

What are you talking about? Shouldn't each NFL GM's first round pick every year be an all-pro right out of the gates?

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Brought him in earlier this year

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I knew it was relatively recent.

In hindsight that was probably a hint that Caldwell was this close to gone.

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So there was no plan after all.

Honestly considering the roster it was an entertaining game today. I dont want the HC retained but it looked better than mediocre.

I never thought that Dave, Doug and the rest of the coaching staff was trying to tank. They were already on thin ice and may have gotten fired last year, had the Jags not won a few games at the end of the year. They knew their jobs were on the line, and I never thought they would intentionally lose. They didn't have the type of job security to do that, like say a first year GM and HC for the team might have. 

I do think that the team being very young and having growing pains, along with bad coaching are big reasons why the team is the situation it is now. I think that is a bigger problem than QB play, which a lot of Jags fan seems to want to blame it on. Gardner played well earlier on this season, but the defense was bad, and Mike was decent today, but the team still lost. It's not mainly QB or QB play that is the problem, though really good QB play could possibly help elevate things. 

Im only shocked that marrone snd wash are not fired. I would have fired wash first.

They should have been let go before Dave was IMHO. I do wonder how things may play out now that Dave has been fired. I did see that Shad promised them their jobs are "safe" for the rest of the season. I am interested in seeing how this impacts decisions they make going forward including who they start for QB the rest of the way. It seems like Shad is finally tired of losing. If the goal is to win as much as they can in whatever games they have left (and show more of the team's potential, then that should impact who they start at QB. 

I never bought into the tanking theory and I don't think that Doug wants to lose out going forward, especially with his job on the line. It might be different if he hadn't been with the Jags that long and knew he might get another year or two. But that's not the case and if they lose out or only win one game, he's probably out. (He might be out regardless).

Maybe one reason that Shad decided to retain Doug and the staff at least through the end of the season is because the team has been playing more competitively these past few weeks. They've been competitive since the Chargers game and have played competitive games with all three QB's. Maybe Shad thinks they can wrestle up some wins in the last few games and would rather see that, than see them have a completely dismal season. Granted if he ended up ultimately hiring a new staff and they turned things around starting next year, he would definitely be happy with that. But I don't think he likes to see the Jags lose as much as they have been and would probably like to see some winning before the season is over with.

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I think Shad is just trying to avoid another interim impressing and not only killing our draft stock but also pressuring Shad into keeping him around to see if the small sample is real or not.

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i personally would love to see a new GM select Marrone and can everyone else... that would be a different team. I just dont foresee a scenario you keep Marrone around in any scenario... for that reason, the only option is a hard reset and we need to clean house.

Canning Caldwell first quiets the fanbase and ensures changes are being made by year end. No other move needs to be made right now.

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Shad did the same thing in 2012 when he fired Gene Smith. He kept Mike Mularkey as the HC for a few weeks until he hired Dave to be the GM and let him decide.

Lets just hope he gets it right this time.

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