And how to do we make sure any one candidate doesn't win the majority?  We just spend millions and millions of dollars on ads to try to influence voters.  This way the convention maintains control by throwing money around.  That's how it should be.

 

Also, we need to make sure we have stakeholders in mainstream news networks, that way we can control their bias in our favor.  Again, this is the only way.

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LOL.  The Trumpettes are in a tizzy right now.  I stand corrected, it will not be a brokered convention, but rather a contested convention.  My best guess right now is that the party will choose perhaps Rubio or Kasich.  The party has made it clear (as have the voters of the Republican Party) that they don't want Trump.  Kasich is a very slim possibility, though nominating him would make more sense than nominating say Paul Ryan or Jeb Bush.

 

Regarding the two leading candidates calling for Kasich to drop out, there are two stories out there that are similar but different.  Trump wants him to drop out because he claims that he takes votes away from him.  I find it hard to believe that someone who would cast a vote for Kasich would switch to Trump.  By the same token, Cruz makes the same argument, however, Cruz wants to get this to a contested convention and he is getting the nod from many delegates in states that he didn't win.  There is an outside possibility that he can win enough delegates to win outright on the first vote, though that's highly unlikely.

 

If the "will of the people" is truly going to get tested, then Trump needs to drop out and run as an independent.  He doesn't have much time to do so, and if he waits until the convention it will be too late.  After losing tonight in Wisconsin, the chances for Trump to secure enough delegates to win the nomination is pretty much nil.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

I just want to see a contested convention for the entertainment value.  Just imagine- we could have a riot inside the convention hall.   Backroom deals,  fistfights, people yelling at each other.   Great entertainment.  

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Trump's lead in the delegates is the equivalent of having a 28 point lead in the 4th quarter, and MSM and their lackeys would have you believe he's losing.  It's like he has a 28 point lead on Cruz.  Against Kasich it's more like 63-0 in the 4th.  But Kasich is going to win.  That's how stupid this is.

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Trump's lead in the delegates is the equivalent of having a 28 point lead in the 4th quarter, and MSM and their lackeys would have you believe he's losing.  It's like he has a 28 point lead on Cruz.  Against Kasich it's more like 63-0 in the 4th.  But Kasich is going to win.  That's how stupid this is.

 

MSM understands it's not about who wins, but what happens when the game goes into overtime.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

Trump's lead in the delegates is the equivalent of having a 28 point lead in the 4th quarter, and MSM and their lackeys would have you believe he's losing.  It's like he has a 28 point lead on Cruz.  Against Kasich it's more like 63-0 in the 4th.  But Kasich is going to win.  That's how stupid this is.

Depends on if Trump is the Jaguars.  Or possibly the Giants.  

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

MSM understands it's not about who wins, but what happens when the game goes into overtime.

You don't have overtime in a blowout. But it's not like this whole process is supposed to make sense. Whoever scored the most points does not win the game. 2+2=5

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For the 18th time, what else would you do?  What's the alternative?  Someone has to get a majority.  You can't, and shouldn't, win with a minority of the votes.  Right now, Trump has a minority of the votes.   He has not won.   You want to hand him the nomination when most people voted against him?   They have to keep voting until someone gets a majority.   Even if that means introducing new candidates at the convention.  

 

The plurality choice is not ideal because that means a majority of the votes went to other people.


 

Here's what you do. You allow people in the primaries to vote for more than one candidate. That way the candidate that the most people find "acceptable" will have the most votes.


 

Of course that won't work this year since we're already locked into a different system.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

MSM understands it's not about who wins, but what happens when the game goes into overtime.

This post makes zero sense in response to the analogy he used.

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For the 18th time, what else would you do?  What's the alternative?  Someone has to get a majority.  You can't, and shouldn't, win with a minority of the votes.  Right now, Trump has a minority of the votes.   He has not won.   You want to hand him the nomination when most people voted against him?   They have to keep voting until someone gets a majority.   Even if that means introducing new candidates at the convention.  

 

1.) Not all pluralities are created equal.  35 29 19 as a split is a lot different than 48% 29% 15%.  To use Kasichs example, an 86 on a test isn't automatically an A but in certain circumstances when grading on a curve you understand that the guy with an 86 deserves an A a lot more than the guy who scored a 4.

 

2.) The way that the current rules are structured you have to carry a majority of delegates in 8 states to be put into consideration for the nomination.  All votes for candidates not officially in consideration on the convention floor will be tabled.  At current that means that on the first ballot the only two candidates in consideration would be trump and cruz.  If the reporting numbers are Trump 1157 and Cruz 749 it will be hard to explain to people how Trump didn't win the nomination.  

 

3.) The rule cited above was written by the romney delegates at the last convention and theoretically subject to change.  Who will write the new rules?  The Trump/Cruz Delegates.  At current, there is no enumerated mechanism to introduce a candidate that didn't qualify for consideration even on subsequent ballots.  Even if there were, you're going to have a hard time convincing enough of the 80-85% of the delegates that will be loyal to either trump or cruz on the rules committee to provide a loophole for the establishment that hates them.  Both sides want it to be a two man race in which the odds would be even instead of having to deal with party shenanigans so i doubt that you see a rules change that benefits anyone outside of Trump and Cruz.  

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1.) Not all pluralities are created equal.  35 29 19 as a split is a lot different than 48% 29% 15%.  To use Kasichs example, an 86 on a test isn't automatically an A but in certain circumstances when grading on a curve you understand that the guy with an 86 deserves an A a lot more than the guy who scored a 4.

 

2.) The way that the current rules are structured you have to carry a majority of delegates in 8 states to be put into consideration for the nomination.  All votes for candidates not officially in consideration on the convention floor will be tabled.  At current that means that on the first ballot the only two candidates in consideration would be trump and cruz.  If the reporting numbers are Trump 1157 and Cruz 749 it will be hard to explain to people how Trump didn't win the nomination.  

 

3.) The rule cited above was written by the romney delegates at the last convention and theoretically subject to change.  Who will write the new rules?  The Trump/Cruz Delegates.  At current, there is no enumerated mechanism to introduce a candidate that didn't qualify for consideration even on subsequent ballots.  Even if there were, you're going to have a hard time convincing enough of the 80-85% of the delegates that will be loyal to either trump or cruz on the rules committee to provide a loophole for the establishment that hates them.  Both sides want it to be a two man race in which the odds would be even instead of having to deal with party shenanigans so i doubt that you see a rules change that benefits anyone outside of Trump and Cruz.  

 

From what I've been hearing, the delegates are not selected by the candidates, but by the state party leaders. That probably means that Trump's delegates won't actually be Trump supporters. They'll have to vote for Trump on the 1st ballot, but after that all hell breaks loose.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

I hate how they have it set up.  That's why its important for Donald Trump to win the 1,237 delegates needed on the first vote, so they can't do anything shady...

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From what I've been hearing, the delegates are not selected by the candidates, but by the state party leaders. That probably means that Trump's delegates won't actually be Trump supporters. They'll have to vote for Trump on the 1st ballot, but after that all hell breaks loose.

Im talking specifically about the rules comittee of delegates. Ur right, there is a convaluted process by which the delegates are named or appointed. Trump hasnt been as affective in getting his people seated. But thats because cruz has. While not all pledge delegates are true supporters of the guys that win i think that cruz in particular and trump is coming around to make sure that when the rules comittee is put together there wont be enough trojan horse establishment delegates to make a contested convention anything but a run off.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Trump's lead in the delegates is the equivalent of having a 28 point lead in the 4th quarter, and MSM and their lackeys would have you believe he's losing.  It's like he has a 28 point lead on Cruz.  Against Kasich it's more like 63-0 in the 4th.  But Kasich is going to win.  That's how stupid this is.

 

Sure, he has a 28 point lead in the 4th quarter, but the rules of this particular game say he has to score 1,237 points to win.   Those are the rules, and everybody knew those rules when they started the game.  So, if he doesn't get to 1,237, he doesn't win.  

 

I don't see why this concept is so difficult to understand. 

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Sure, he has a 28 point lead in the 4th quarter, but the rules of this particular game say he has to score 1,237 points to win. Those are the rules, and everybody knew those rules when they started the game. So, if he doesn't get to 1,237, he doesn't win.


I don't see why this concept is so difficult to understand.

Youre absolutely right. Paul ryan talked about this at lengtg in his announcement speech.

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This post makes zero sense in response to the analogy he used.

 

You're right, it's not overtime. It's even simpler. Your man is not going to seal the deal, it will move to the next round. Boxing?

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

Sure, he has a 28 point lead in the 4th quarter, but the rules of this particular game say he has to score 1,237 points to win.   Those are the rules, and everybody knew those rules when they started the game.  So, if he doesn't get to 1,237, he doesn't win.  

 

I don't see why this concept is so difficult to understand. 

 

We know the rules dude.  They're still stupid and devoid of any common sense.

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Sure, he has a 28 point lead in the 4th quarter, but the rules of this particular game say he has to score 1,237 points to win. Those are the rules, and everybody knew those rules when they started the game. So, if he doesn't get to 1,237, he doesn't win.


I don't see why this concept is so difficult to understand.

Because it's very undemocratic to say that the guy that got the most votes will not be the nominee.


That also shouldn't be so difficult to decipher.

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We know the rules dude. They're still stupid and devoid of any common sense.

It's the party candidate not the people's candidate. They don't have to follow the will of the voters.


But sheeple continue to treat D an R as some untouchable system.


There are others like Gary Johnson.

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