Agreed. If they had connected on a few of those deep shots during the last quarter of the season I think the general feeling would be different regarding Lee.

Agreed as well. You could definitely see it trying to come together during the last quarter of the season. It just seemed like Lee was one step ahead, or Bortles was 1 second late on the throw. It's too hard to get that timing down mid season.

 

Lee is the type of WR, where Bortles needs to throw it a little early, so Lee can run through the catch and keep on going. They simply didn't have that kind of timing on deep routes.

 

AR15 is the type of receiver who will go up and grab that ball, even if the throw is a little late, or behind him. It really doesn't matter for him, he excels in that area. Lee tried multiple times to go up and grab those kind of jump balls, but that's just not his ideal style of game.

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I'd prefer to give Lee another shot and see if he can stay fit. I don't think we are so desperate for third round picks that we'd offload him.

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Hopefully Lee is healthy all season and we can see what we actually have - he's a second round pick.  I would rather wait and see what he can do.. we have seen flashes.. WR is deep-ish but not deep enough to trade away a second rounder who is yet unproven IMO.

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Lets just not listen to Ryan O.

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We used a 2nd round pick on Lee, so I hope the jags don't give up on him that quickly. Sure, he's struggled with injuries, but if he can right the ship and STay healthy, he has the potential to be a good weapon. We don't have a WR that can take a 3 yard pass and turn it into a huge gain, nor do we have a WR that can take the top off the defense... Lee has the potential to become that.

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Guys this is not fantasy football.  If there is trade value for Lee you trade him so he has his chance to shine.   I keep hearing well keep um.  Then how does Greene develop?   What if Lee plays lights out?  Do you dismiss Hurns?  

 

Originally Lee was supposed to be the savior.  Instead Robinson and Hurns are.  It happens.  Lee can't remain healthy.  So you grab what ya can.  And cut your losses and let him excel elsewhere.  If he ever does.  Just make sure not in the AFC South. 

 

I understand the whole speed thing.  But if can't catch speed don't matter.  If can't stay healthy speed don't matter.   Did we not learn from the other speedy receivers we had?   Takes more then speed alone to be a Legit Nfl receiver. 

 

So yes grab picks or a good defensive player and move on.   Unless zero interest in which then you keep Lee around.

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Guys this is not fantasy football.  If there is trade value for Lee you trade him so he has his chance to shine.   I keep hearing well keep um.  Then how does Greene develop?   What if Lee plays lights out?  Do you dismiss Hurns?  

 

Originally Lee was supposed to be the savior.  Instead Robinson and Hurns are.  It happens.  Lee can't remain healthy.  So you grab what ya can.  And cut your losses and let him excel elsewhere.  If he ever does.  Just make sure not in the AFC South. 

 

I understand the whole speed thing.  But if can't catch speed don't matter.  If can't stay healthy speed don't matter.   Did we not learn from the other speedy receivers we had?   Takes more then speed alone to be a Legit Nfl receiver. 

 

So yes grab picks or a good defensive player and move on.   Unless zero interest in which then you keep Lee around.

 

There's no point in trading him though, because once you do and one of your receivers goes down you're SOL. Lee is not only a quality slot receiver when healthy but he proved in his rookie year that he can also shine on the outside if need be. Depth is the key, and Jacksonville has suffered in the past from ignoring it (See the entire offensive line dropping like flies in 2008)

 

There's no point in trading away good receivers, especially ones that have a role here like Lee.

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Player trades are pretty rare in the NFL and Lee has little or no real trade value.  He's always injured and hasn't proven anything.  Might as well keep him as a 4th WR. 

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Guys this is not fantasy football.  If there is trade value for Lee you trade him so he has his chance to shine.   I keep hearing well keep um.  Then how does Greene develop?   What if Lee plays lights out?  Do you dismiss Hurns?  

 

Originally Lee was supposed to be the savior.  Instead Robinson and Hurns are.  It happens.  Lee can't remain healthy.  So you grab what ya can.  And cut your losses and let him excel elsewhere.  If he ever does.  Just make sure not in the AFC South. 

 

I understand the whole speed thing.  But if can't catch speed don't matter.  If can't stay healthy speed don't matter.   Did we not learn from the other speedy receivers we had?   Takes more then speed alone to be a Legit Nfl receiver. 

 

So yes grab picks or a good defensive player and move on.   Unless zero interest in which then you keep Lee around.

Perfect example of how to rid your team of talent.

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Guys this is not fantasy football. If there is trade value for Lee you trade him so he has his chance to shine. I keep hearing well keep um. Then how does Greene develop? What if Lee plays lights out? Do you dismiss Hurns?


Originally Lee was supposed to be the savior. Instead Robinson and Hurns are. It happens. Lee can't remain healthy. So you grab what ya can. And cut your losses and let him excel elsewhere. If he ever does. Just make sure not in the AFC South.


I understand the whole speed thing. But if can't catch speed don't matter. If can't stay healthy speed don't matter. Did we not learn from the other speedy receivers we had? Takes more then speed alone to be a Legit Nfl receiver.


So yes grab picks or a good defensive player and move on. Unless zero interest in which then you keep Lee around.

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I'm not sure what competition Lee is providing if he can't stay healthy.

 

I believe he was worth taking the chance on, because he's flashed special talent when healthy.

 

Unfortunately, like MSW, he can't stay that way.

 

The big decision now is, will the bug continue as with MSW, or can he kick it like Durant did.

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His potential is Antonio Brownesque. There's still a chance and that chance isn't something I'm willing to gamble with

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I'm not sure what competition Lee is providing if he can't stay healthy.


I believe he was worth taking the chance on, because he's flashed special talent when healthy.


Unfortunately, like MSW, he can't stay that way.


The big decision now is, will the bug continue as with MSW, or can he kick it like Durant did.

Better to take a chance on him until the trade deadline at least.

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There was a tweet/question last night to Ryan O'Halloran (Jags Beat Writer) that asked if he though the Jags would look into trading Marqise Lee for a LEO.

 

Ryan's response was:

 

"I think that's why they played him so much late in the year. I'd see what they could get."

 

 

With the emergence of both Arob and Hurns and the potential of Greene, this wouldn't be totally crazy. What do you think and do you think we'd have a dance partner?

I think we need to keep as many play makers as we can...I would rather keep everyone who is good rather than start trading away players who are good..keep as many good players as you can

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If it could possible get us a pick rather than a player, the third round has been very good to Caldwell. 

having multiple targets for Bortles will be very good too

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Here is the thing though.  Our corners are not great,  Our safety's are a joke,  There is no pass rush.    So if offered one of them that shows potential have to take it.  Or if can move up in draft and see something that helps the same. 

 

Carolina is a perfect example.  Cam and the offense for years scored a ton.  The D until this year.   Couldn't stop a cold.  While a high scoring passing attack is great.  With no balanced defense matters none.   Now I get it!   8 out of the last nine years under 500 and wanting playoffs bad.   

 

However it is a team sport.  And want a winning team.  Don't matter if we win by 5 or 50.

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Here is the thing though.  Our corners are not great,  Our safety's are a joke,  There is no pass rush.    So if offered one of them that shows potential have to take it.  Or if can move up in draft and see something that helps the same. 

 

Carolina is a perfect example.  Cam and the offense for years scored a ton.  The D couldn't stop a cold.  While a high scoring passing attack is great.  With no balanced defense matters none.   Now I get it  8-9 last year under 500 and wanting playoffs bad.   

 

However it is a team sport.  And want a winning team.  Don't matter if we win by 5 or 50.

The Jaguars are in prime position to pick one of the two best DBs in the draft and have the most cap space in the NFL going into one of the deepest free agent classes at DB in recent memory. I just don't see a need to trade Lee, all things considered.

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Well if we get a ton of help spending close to the max.  I agree about not trading Lee.  However what if Lee gives us the amo to grab Bosa.  Do you still keep lee?  Cause if Bosa drops to 4.  For some odd reason.  The cowboys love flash and speed players.

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Well if we get a ton of help spending close to the max.  I agree about not trading Lee.  However what if Lee gives us the amo to grab Bosa.  Do you still keep lee?  Cause if Bosa drops to 4.  For some odd reason.  The cowboys love flash and speed players.

Lee won't be a factor in drafting Bosa.

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