ehhh....  I don't know if I agree with that...  We could have very well been 2-1, possibly 3-0 if BB5 was starting from week 1... 

 

More wins don't matter though. We're all happy throwing away games by playing worse players. Just don't do it for a better draft pick, because we're not into that.

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I'm trying to help you here since you wanted to expand the sample size to high school but you refuse to answer. It's a yes or no question. Really quite simple.

Can't you read I did answer your question in my last post.

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All the infighting on this post is funny. What is no funny is our O-Line, They really need help. However, it seems that putting Bortles in the game seemed to help them find more consistency. 

 

Let's all wish Bortles a healthy season. 

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There's no way to know what we would have seen from Bortles had they started him week one. Would it have been better? Probably. But I hat would have been at risk? Behind that line, quite a bit. Putting him in when they did was the right move. The team was out of the game, and it was a defense with a weak pass rush. A good place to get experience.


Nothing has been harmed here. If anything, an argument could be made it benefitted the team letting him see the speed of the game and study real game film to learn how defenses scheme.


I'm not sure what some of you were expecting this year. He's in there sooner than originally anticipated. Brother than celebrate the fact that the team has opted to move on, some of you are stuck in the past.

I was expecting a competitive team and to trust the coaching staff to make the right decisions.  Clearly I didn't get any of my wants.  Looking back sitting him was the wrong decision period.  Henne had 2 good throws to hurns and a busted td with lewis. The rest of his play stunk horribly.

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this team is progressing, and that while the process isn't enjoyable, the team is getting better. It's young, but improving.

Talk about blind.   This team has not gotten any better.  It's gotten younger but it certainly has not gotten better.  The jags are not even competitive on Sundays.  I don't see improvement.  The hope is Bortles brings improvement but outside of that no.  

 

Of course it will get better because it can't get any worse.  Down 30-0 in your own house is atrocious.

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Maybe for the first few plays coming out of halftime. They certainly got back to their seats in a hurry once they realized he was out there.


Did something change about the blowout losses today? We still saw them get blown out, right? I don't know anyone who is happy with what we've had to endure as fans over the years, but I think our fans are, for the most part, savvy enough to recognize that this team is progressing, and that while the process isn't enjoyable, the team is getting better. It's young, but improving.

I personally don't think this team is progressing or improving.

Blake is literally my only hope that this team will show some signs of life.

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ehhh....  I don't know if I agree with that...  We could have very well been 2-1, possibly 3-0 if BB5 was starting from week 1... 

 

Maybe I'm hyping Bortles up too much.  But man, if we could have just gotten more sustained drives against Philly and Washington, those 2 games may have been flipped for us...  

 

Going 3 and out on a consistent basis really messes with an entire coaching game plan...   Again, I put that on the coaches for not being strong minded enough to know that Bortles is the real deal...

I'm not so sure we'd be 2-1, especially with that line and a rookie qb. Both Philly and Washington have proven to be good teams. Indy wasn't what their record reflected.


I think we need to take a deep breath with the hype and let's see what happens the rest of this season. Hopefully he isn't injured and he continues to progress. I think all of us want him to succeed, and we all recognize he's the better qb on the roster. I would just hate to see us forcing the issue here. It sets unreasonable expectations for a very young team.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I personally don't think this team is progressing or improving.

Blake is literally my only hope that this team will show some signs of life.

In order for Blake to succeed, other facets better be improving.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

In order for Blake to succeed, other facets better be improving.

The defense is regressing, but the offense is looking better outside the TE position which we'll likely address in FA

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It is a matter of perspective. In the end, sitting him hasn't hurt a thing.

Do you know anything about football?  He has 2 1/2  games less experience than he should have at this point.  Possibly even more important, the O-line and receivers have not had that 2 1/2  games to get used to him!  Suppose next week we lose a close game plagued by false starts and QB-receivers out of sync? Will you realize then sitting him did hurt?  Why do you think the starter takes reps with the first string all week? 

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

I personally don't think this team is progressing or improving.

Blake is literally my only hope that this team will show some signs of life.

How do you really expect to see improvement with all the injuries right now, compiled with all the rookies playing?


I don't expect much from the offense until later in the season.


The defense is puzzling though. I mostly believe its a matter of being on the field too much because of henne and the abysmal offense.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Understanding the decision is different from supporting it. You get that, right?


Can someone please explain to me what damage was done by Bortles not starting this game? Seriously, what are people expecting this year, especially early on.

Hmm u were def in full support. Everybody understood why they waited but that doesnt mean everybody agreed with the decision.


I agree its not even really a big deal. But whatever. Im just of the opinion that it was a derp moment of our history to keep rolling with henne when we had this special guy in Bortles who was ready to start learning from game experience week 1.

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Do you know anything about football?  He has 2 1/2  games less experience than he should have at this point.  Possibly even more important, the O-line and receivers have not had that 2 1/2  games to get used to him!  Suppose next week we lose a close game plagued by false starts and QB-receivers out of sync? Will you realize then sitting him did hurt?  Why do you think the starter takes reps with the first string all week? 

This is funny stuff. Is his career ruined because he missed out on 2 1/2 games? Really?

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

In order for Blake to succeed, other facets better be improving.

You have to admit the minute Bortles started playing, everybody started improving. There is something to that.

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Hmm u were def in full support. Everybody understood why they waited but that doesnt mean everybody agreed with the decision.

I agree its not even really a big deal. But whatever. Im just of the opinion that it was a derp moment of our history to keep rolling with henne when we had this special guy in Bortles who was ready to start learning from game experience week 1.

Full support? Hardly. I guess because I didn't claim to know better than the coaches, that somehow equates to full support in your world.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

You have to admit the minute Bortles started playing, everybody started improving. There is something to that.

Never said otherwise.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

This is funny stuff. Is his career ruined because he missed out on 2 1/2 games? Really?

I'm not sure how you got a ruined career out of:

 

"Possibly even more important, the O-line and receivers have not had that 2 1/2  games to get used to him!  Suppose next week we lose a close game plagued by false starts and QB-receivers out of sync? Will you realize then sitting him did hurt?  Why do you think the starter takes reps with the first string all week?"

 

Apparently English wasn't your best subject in school.

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

I'm not sure how you got a ruined career out of:

 
"Possibly even more important, the O-line and receivers have not had that 2 1/2  games to get used to him!  Suppose next week we lose a close game plagued by false starts and QB-receivers out of sync? Will you realize 

then

 sitting him did hurt?  Why do you think the starter takes reps with the first string all week?"



 

Apparently English wasn't your best subject in school.

My point was simple. It hasn't damaged anything.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

There's no way to know what we would have seen from Bortles had they started him week one. Would it have been better? Probably. But I hat would have been at risk? Behind that line, quite a bit. Putting him in when they did was the right move. The team was out of the game, and it was a defense with a weak pass rush. A good place to get experience.

 

That "weak pass rush" sacked Henne 3 times in 10 drops (3 sacks plus 7 pass attempts). OTOH, Bortles was sacked twice (including the one called back by penalty) in 26 drops. By my reasoning a large part of the problem with pass blocking has been eliminated by the QB change.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

That "weak pass rush" sacked Henne 3 times in 10 drops (3 sacks plus 7 pass attempts). OTOH, Bortles was sacked twice (including the one called back by penalty) in 26 drops. By my reasoning a large part of the problem with pass blocking has been eliminated by the QB change.

Defense was playing with a 30+ point lead when Bortles got put in. Wait until next Sunday to judge how much better Bortels is gonna make the o-line.

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