Wonder if the reason Khan is stuck on Baalke is because there's a lot more with Urban behind the scenes and what the Jaguars knew and when and Khan doesn't want it out. Like there has to be something beyond him thinking he's a good person for the GM spot.

Screw it.  Put out a press release and tell the world what Urban did, fire Baalke, and move on.  His focus needs to be on winning football games and not worrying about what a sleaze the former head coach turned out to be.

Given that Baalke was a holdover from prior to Urbz' days, I suspect Protozoa was getting on about something beyond Urbz' shenanigans. Let's be honest, I highly doubt it's anything near as bad as the Redacteds' or Raiders' recent scandals, so it would be unlikely that serious repurcussions would follow any leak/revelation.

But, like you said, air the dirty laundry in conjunction with an announcement of his release and the subsequent hire of a new coach and/or GM, and I doubt many are even paying attention to the bad news.

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I think the Rooney rule is a bit silly in the first place.  Even more silly if a black man is hired and the owner get in trouble for not interviewing a second one.

I would presume in that scenario the 2nd interview requirement would be waived.

"Hey Byron, you wanna be GM while you coach?"
"Eff Nah!"
OBJECTIVE COMPLETED

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This has truly been an emotional roller coaster with all the highs and lows.
The franchise just seems to find new ways to break our hearts. Hopefully it works out with Wilson/Leftwich. That would energize the fan base and hopefully be a good tandem for years to come. I’m almost drained trying to keep up with this stuff.

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Source saying lots of conflicting stuff going around, but that it looks like Tony is giving his dad one last "pep talk" today. If this doesn't get done today, he thinks Byron walks away.

And who can blame him at this point.

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The Klown show continues

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The Klown show continues

Indeed. 

Dilla saying holdup is Khan's "cold feet".

Sigh.

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I believe the candidates have to been external to the organization.

I wonder if the commissioner has the power to waive it.  It seems illogical to interview if you are already hiring a minority for the position.

Just pull somebody off the street, walking past the building and interview them.

If the league is serious about enforcing the rule, I imagine this would catch more heat than conducting a token interview with a qualified candidate.

Take an hour or two out of the schedule, meet with a director of scouting, pick their brain, heck for all you know you might find someone that you want to bring aboard in some supporting role. That, or when they do land a GM job, they'll be more favorable to working with you in the future because you helped them get there.

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Dilla hinting at something crazy going on as well.

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Don’t they have to officially fire Baalke before they can interview another minority candidate. Why then have they not at least officially announced Baalke’s firing.

because if you fire him and Byron takes a job elsewhere, you now have double the work ahead of you, and you look like even more a fool than when the search began.

Shad dug his own pit on this one.

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Dilla hinting at something crazy going on as well.

It's like D-Day over in the building right now. Almost chaotic.

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Dilla hinting at something crazy going on as well.

It's like D-Day over in the building right now. Almost chaotic.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I don't know if Leftwich will be a good HC or not... but geez this I'd laughable.

Why is Baalke even an option? Should have canned him WITH Meyer and just start fresh period.

Holding a guy or two over from previous regimes has not worked so far.

When was the last clean sweep we had of our fo and coach staff? JDR and Shack?

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I don't know if Leftwich will be a good HC or not... but geez this I'd laughable.

Why is Baalke even an option? Should have canned him WITH Meyer and just start fresh period.

Holding a guy or two over from previous regimes has not worked so far.

When was the last clean sweep we had of our fo and coach staff? JDR and Shack?

Nope; Shack was let go after 2008, but JDR kept on. After 2011, JDR gone but Smith kept on. 

2013.

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I don't know if Leftwich will be a good HC or not... but geez this I'd laughable.

Why is Baalke even an option? Should have canned him WITH Meyer and just start fresh period.

Holding a guy or two over from previous regimes has not worked so far.

When was the last clean sweep we had of our fo and coach staff? JDR and Shack?

Nope; Shack was let go after 2008, but JDR kept on. After 2011, JDR gone but Smith kept on. 

2013.

I meant when Shack and JDR showed up. Weren't they the fresh regime after TC?

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Just pull somebody off the street, walking past the building and interview them.

If the league is serious about enforcing the rule, I imagine this would catch more heat than conducting a token interview with a qualified candidate.

Take an hour or two out of the schedule, meet with a director of scouting, pick their brain, heck for all you know you might find someone that you want to bring aboard in some supporting role. That, or when they do land a GM job, they'll be more favorable to working with you in the future because you helped them get there.

I didn't take OLM's comment as a serious suggestion.  I believe the NFL rules do require that the person being interviewed is reasonably qualified.  If you interviewed a janitor from off the street, you would still be in violation.

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Great.  So what's happening now?

In that wait interim, khan basically thought they were rushing, and it didn’t sit right with him that Byron basically forced an ultimatum. He thinks by firing baalke he lets Byron “win”. He told Tony this is his team, and is now considering restarting the process of looking for a coach. 

You know, I thought about this when the whole story of Leftwich saying "Baalke or me" came out. If Leftwich wins that, what is the relationship like between him and Khan moving forward? Surely Khan would be mature enough to set that aside and move forward with his new HC / GM. 

Apparently not. So all this nonsense comes down to Shad's ego. He's not going to let anyone tell him what to do, whether it's HC candidates, players, his fanbase, others around the NFL. 

How frustrating it is to receive confirmation that the Jaguars are owned by a petulant, stubborn, spoiled child.

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Khan is coming off as extremely incompetent here. I don't know how people can support this team if we go into next year with Baalke and Bevel or Baalke and Fangio or Baalke and whatever high school coach they're able to draw in.

"Mr. Khan. How would you like to have a steak dinner?"
"Ohh! I like that!"
"But first, you have to stop stepping on Legos!"
"DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO! I'D RATHER EAT HAGGIS AND BE ABLE TO STEP ON LEGOS WHENEVER I WANT THAN TO HAVE A STEAK DINNER AND NOT BE ABLE TO STEP ON LEGOS"

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Great.  So what's happening now?

From the Leftwich thread:

The Rooney rule is what held up the final signing. 

In that wait interim, khan basically thought they were rushing, and it didn’t sit right with him that Byron basically forced an ultimatum. He thinks by firing baalke he lets Byron “win”. He told Tony this is his team, and is now considering restarting the process of looking for a coach. 

My source says it’s now 50/50 if this Wilson/ Leftwich deal goes through. Tony is trying but khan basically told his son to screw off because it’s his team. Not Tony’s. 

Khan is now basically stalling so he can "not make a panicky decision". SMH

...why do I hear a calliope playing in the background of this post?

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No one gains experience from formality interviews. They are literally interviewing you to meet the rule. It’s a dated rule that I don’t think is even needed anymore, especially if you’re initial interview process lands you with a minority. The mental gymnastics needed to make sense of it is incredible.

baloney.

I have had many interviews where I wasn't the top candidate, or was underqualified to take the job. But the experience in that interview prepped me for the promotion that created when someone above me took the other job. I had a chance to reflect on what worked, and what didn't, and the hiring lead provided valuable feedback to help me improve my ability in an interview, even though they also realized I wasn't the fit for the higher job.

I've been on interview panels where we had candidates who weren't ready yet for the position. We were required to interview X number of candidates, and yes, we knew that they weren't ready for the responsibility of the promotion yet, but still conducted the interview in earnest. That allowed us to not only provide post-interview feedback, but to also work with them (if they were in-house candidates) to give them more experience and opportunity to develop the skills that would make them ready the next time an opening arose.

This. Interviewing for a job is never a waste of time, and if you are paying attention you can always gain experience for future interviews.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

If the league is serious about enforcing the rule, I imagine this would catch more heat than conducting a token interview with a qualified candidate.

Take an hour or two out of the schedule, meet with a director of scouting, pick their brain, heck for all you know you might find someone that you want to bring aboard in some supporting role. That, or when they do land a GM job, they'll be more favorable to working with you in the future because you helped them get there.

I didn't take OLM's comment as a serious suggestion.  I believe the NFL rules do require that the person being interviewed is reasonably qualified.  If you interviewed a janitor from off the street, you would still be in violation.

It wasn't mean't to be. I was being sarcastic. Sometimes sarcasm doesn't translate well over a keyboard.

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In that wait interim, khan basically thought they were rushing, and it didn’t sit right with him that Byron basically forced an ultimatum. He thinks by firing baalke he lets Byron “win”. He told Tony this is his team, and is now considering restarting the process of looking for a coach. 

You know, I thought about this when the whole story of Leftwich saying "Baalke or me" came out. If Leftwich wins that, what is the relationship like between him and Khan moving forward? Surely Khan would be mature enough to set that aside and move forward with his new HC / GM. 

Apparently not. So all this nonsense comes down to Shad's ego. He's not going to let anyone tell him what to do, whether it's HC candidates, players, his fanbase, others around the NFL. 

How frustrating it is to receive confirmation that the Jaguars are owned by a petulant, stubborn, spoiled child.

It would hint to me that Byron is decisive, assertive, and would bring me to want to discuss this in great detail with him personally.
It might not force my hand from the get-go, but if he has a convincing argument why Baalke is the deal breaker I am going to listen, consider, and then act accordingly.

What gets me is that several candidates have already said the same. At some point you have to wonder if they are all being selfish, or are they all onto something you are not?

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I didn't take OLM's comment as a serious suggestion.  I believe the NFL rules do require that the person being interviewed is reasonably qualified.  If you interviewed a janitor from off the street, you would still be in violation.

It wasn't mean't to be. I was being sarcastic. Sometimes sarcasm doesn't translate well over a keyboard.

I got that it was probably sarcastic, but these days and this board? you never know

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