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Poll: How comfortable should Bradley/Caldwell be with re-signing Henne?
Very comfortable. Henne knows the system and there isn't anyone that would be a clear upgrade.
Somewhat comfortable. Henne would be the priority at backup QB, but if he gets any other serious offers that exceed his value let him walk.
Henne is just a guy. There are several other names on that list that bring about the same thing to the table that Henne does so sign the cheapest one.
Not comfortable. There are several clear upgrades to Henne on that list.
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Re-sign Henne?


Quote:I'd like to see them offer Henne a one year deal.  If he takes it fine, if he doesn't fine. 

 

Having him one more year gives them time/insurance to groom a 6th or 7th round pick like:

Jeff Driskel

Brandon Doughty - or 

Nate Sudfeld

 

I think these guys ^ are good developmental projects that Hackett/Olson could do well with. 
:down:  on a new season of "How to ruin your team"

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Quote: :down:  on a new season of "How to ruin your team"
 

Right.  'Cause back-up quarterbacks ruin teams so often.  

 

We're talking about the back-up to a young, tough, resilient QB that has shown he'll play through injury.

What the hell are you talking about? 


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RG3 and not even close.   The Jags could design certain plays for him like they did with Robinson.  And if ever returned to original form be a steal at Back Up and Blake have to remain consistency to keep his job.   Don't we preach competition?   The best man wins.   I am not saying Blake get beat out.   I am saying it be real interesting.  Given Rg3 the weapons we have and his spread style offense.


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Re-place Henne.
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Man, seeing guys type about wanting to keep him is unbelieve able. Making decisions like that is one of the many reasons why we had a losing season and would continue to have them. I notice Tebow wasn't up there and I think he would be the best pick. Leadership he's got it. Motivation he has it. He can win and does. He can also lose just like any other QB in the league. Just think, if Chip would've kept him he still would be in Philly. Come on, Mark and Sam over a guy that could've opened up that O.   


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Quote:Man, seeing guys type about wanting to keep him is unbelieve able. Making decisions like that is one of the many reasons why we had a losing season and would continue to have them. I notice Tebow wasn't up there and I think he would be the best pick. Leadership he's got it. Motivation he has it. He can win and does. He can also lose just like any other QB in the league. Just think, if Chip would've kept him he still would be in Philly. Come on, Mark and Sam over a guy that could've opened up that O.   
 

 

DId you seriously just say you'd take Tim Tebow over Sam Bradford?


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(This post was last modified: 01-20-2016, 12:04 AM by Teal Time Radio.)

or rg3?  pre injury he was golden. In reference to the name not spoke in Jacksonville.  Yes he had one good year and got extremely lucky in playoffs.  I guess most people only seen highlight films.  Had the worst arm and terrible accuracy issues.  The majority of time during games.


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Quote:RG3 and not even close.   The Jags could design certain plays for him like they did with Robinson.  And if ever returned to original form be a steal at Back Up and Blake have to remain consistency to keep his job.   Don't we preach competition?   The best man wins.   I am not saying Blake get beat out.   I am saying it be real interesting.  Given Rg3 the weapons we have and his spread style offense.


I think even if we wanted him, he has to know he's signing here to specifically be the backup. That fact leads me to believe that RGIII will likely end up in a spot where he is promised the oportunity to compete to start. Somewhere like Cleveland, Philly, L.A. or the Jets. Whether he can seize the opportunity remains to be seen.
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Quote:Man, seeing guys type about wanting to keep him is unbelieve able. Making decisions like that is one of the many reasons why we had a losing season and would continue to have them. I notice Tebow wasn't up there and I think he would be the best pick. Leadership he's got it. Motivation he has it. He can win and does. He can also lose just like any other QB in the league. Just think, if Chip would've kept him he still would be in Philly. Come on, Mark and Sam over a guy that could've opened up that O.   
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(This post was last modified: 01-20-2016, 08:28 AM by StitchJones.)

Henne has not nor is he ever likely to be anything except a 'servicable' backup quarterback. Bortles won't learn any cool 'trick' plays or stunts from Henne; but, Henne is a veteran quarterback and has been around the game long enough to be 'savvy' to things that a young quarterback may not, and in that sense, Bortles could benefit from Hennes experience.

 

As far as the playing is concerned though, Henne won't lead us to a winning season if Bortles goes down. He is a servicable backup quarterback, but that's about all. He is worth the average pay of a backup quarterback. If he were to get a better offer, then I think we should let him walk; but as long as what he's getting paid is comenserate with his demonstrated playing ability, then I see no point in not keeping him.... unless there is someone out there who's available that is a guaranteed upgrade for us at the position.

 

Tim Tebow? Don't laugh; Tebow may not have the greatest arm, but he can scramble and run better than Henne. If he were availble for the right price, he would be an upgrade. The down side (?) is that he may also be an unwanted distraction. Does his upside out weigh his downside? Would he even want to come to J'ville as a backup?


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Quote:I posted a lengthy list at the beginning of this thread of guys set to hit free agency, I'm not doing it again.  Sure, some of them may re-sign with their teams and a lot of them are scrubs, but not all of them.  Talking about guys set to hit free agency is "ok" on a football message board, right?  Players usually like to hit the market when they're scheduled to do so.  Yeah Henne might be able to go 1-1 if called upon.  Are you confident in 2-2 or *gasp* 3-3 if need be?  I think it's worthy of discussion and apparently you do too despite your post supporting the lament of this thread's creation.

 

If you think it doesn't matter who backs Bortles up next season, then you have to be in the camp of this is a 5 or 6 win team at best next year regardless of what happens this offseason.  That's fine to think that way, but if you're expecting significant talent to be acquired this offseason coupled with the continued progression of our young players and anticipating that to put our expectations at 8 or more wins next season, I don't know how you could say that discussing our backup QB situation is a waste of time or annoying or whatever.

 

And apparently you missed this post below which was a couple of pages back:

 

 

And I later clarified that he didn't actually start those two games and only had a couple of pass attempts this year.  I'm solidly not on the Chase Daniel bandwagon for this team just as solidly as I'm not against re-signing Henne.  I like the idea of taking a look at all the options though and it's clear to me there are varying levels of quality play from the backup QB market.
I miss a lot of posts in a thread this long.

Can Chad Henne go 2-2 or 3-3? Maybe... he's was about a .500 QB before Miami pulled the plug.

 

My whole thing is this... if there is clearly a better option, sign him.

But if it is a wash... then keep Henne (for the right price).

 

People on this board want change every day for the sake of change.

The fact that there is a lengthy discussion on the back up QB, which is more of an argument of who is right or wrong in the matter of re-signing him, is silly.

He's a back up. If you are relying on your backup QB for longer than a couple games, the season is beat (for like 90% of teams).

There is no clear cut evidence that anyone else's back up that they no longer want would be better than our back up.

 

BUT if you can get a younger, former starter, that clearly has more skill than Henne.

Do it. I have no ties to the former Michigan man....

 

Not being opposed to re-signing Henne doesn't mean accepting mediocrity. It is realizing the back up grass isn't always greener.

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Quote:Henne has not nor is he ever likely to be anything except a 'servicable' backup quarterback. Bortles won't learn any cool 'trick' plays or stunts from Henne; but, Henne is a veteran quarterback and has been around the game long enough to be 'savvy' to things that a young quarterback may not, and in that sense, Bortles could benefit from Hennes experience.

 

As far as the playing is concerned though, Henne won't lead us to a winning season if Bortles goes down. He is a servicable backup quarterback, but that's about all. He is worth the average pay of a backup quarterback. If he were to get a better offer, then I think we should let him walk; but as long as what he's getting paid is comenserate with his demonstrated playing ability, then I see no point in not keeping him.... unless there is someone out there who's available that is a guaranteed upgrade for us at the position.

 

Tim Tebow? Don't laugh; Tebow may not have the greatest arm, but he can scramble and run better than Henne. If he were availble for the right price, he would be an upgrade. The down side (?) is that he may also be an unwanted distraction. Does his upside out weigh his downside? Would he even want to come to J'ville as a backup?
If Tebow was better than Henne... he'd have a job by now.

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Henne has never strung together three games in a row where he looks to be a competent QB in his whole career. He has a low release which is like Spanish fly for D Linemen's extended arms. Better to groom a better backup than waste more time with this joker.
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Quote:Henne has never strung together three games in a row where he looks to be a competent QB in his whole career. He has a low release which is like Spanish fly for D Linemen's extended arms. Better to groom a better backup than waste more time with this joker.
I disagree.

Henne looked OK his 2nd season in MIA once they gave him the ropes. The team around him was never "overly great".

He had a 3 game stretch late that season where he wasn't the reason they were losing, that's for sure.

 

He had another 3 game stretch with the Jaguars in the 2013 campaign after finally giving up on Gabs...

3 straight wins. 4 TDs 1 INT, roughly 60 pct completion avg.

 

-shrug- whatever though... doesn't matter to me too much if he is or isn't employed.

OUR QB is Bortles... anyone else and it's gonna be a tough season. Period

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Quote:DId you seriously just say you'd take Tim Tebow over Sam Bradford?
Tebow could get run over by a truck while eating a live kitten, and the same (dwindling) group of people would insist that the Jaguars should sign him.

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Quote:I disagree.

Henne looked OK his 2nd season in MIA once they gave him the ropes. The team around him was never "overly great".

He had a 3 game stretch late that season where he wasn't the reason they were losing, that's for sure.


He had another 3 game stretch with the Jaguars in the 2013 campaign after finally giving up on Gabs...

3 straight wins. 4 TDs 1 INT, roughly 60 pct completion avg.


-shrug- whatever though... doesn't matter to me too much if he is or isn't employed.

OUR QB is Bortles... anyone else and it's gonna be a tough season. Period


Not sure which Dolphins year you are referring to..


2009 where he threw for 2878 yards, 12 TDs and 14 INTs


Or 2010 where he threw for 3301 yards, 15 TDs and 19 INTs.


..but he sucked in both years. 15 TDs is the most he has ever thrown in a year. His next closest was 13 TDs and 14 INTs for us in 2013.


Why do people pretend he is even average? His numbers are consistently below average.
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List of concerns for this offseason:

 

1. pass rush

2. free safety

3.CB #2

4. Interior O-Line shuffle/ Center

5. Otto upgrade? 

6....

7...

8...

9...

10...

11...

12...

13...

14...

15...

16...

17...

18 - replace punter? 

19 -  competition at K

20...

22 -  Chad flippin' Henne

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Trade for Gabbert....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

j/k



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The reasons most backup QBs are available is that they are backup QBs, and haven't been able to perform to a level of a starting QB.  Although I am not 'comfortable' with Henne starting for a long period of a season, he is on par with other backup QBs that will be available.  The benefit with Henne is that he knows the offense and has experience with our players.  I do agree that it would be good if Caldwell could sign a QB somewhere in the draft, to be a 3rd QB for now and develop into a good backup for the future.    


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Quote:If Tebow was better than Henne... he'd have a job by now.
Not necessarily; there's a lot more to being selected for as prestigious a job as an NFL quarterback than mere physical ability. A good deal of the anxiety surrounding Tebow had less to do with his ability as a quarterback than it did with all the hype and media glitz that was surrounding him. Most teams just don't want that kind of focus on their backup quarterback.

 

You really don't have to look very hard to see many backup quarterbacks who don't have Tebow's athletic ability (just look at Henne, for instance). Plus consider the fact that he led an NFL team to at least one play off; not all backup's can say that either. The rub with him locally is that he was the darling of the UF crowd and it was felt that his presence here would detract from support for the starting quarterback. Can you imagine how bad it would be in a game where the Jags were struggling (a common enough occurrence as we all know) and a bunch of UF supporters started chanting 'Tebow...Tebow'? You could almost certainly count on it that if he were here it would happen. That's the reason he isn't and will probably never be here as a backup.

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