Alex Smith is who he is.  A verteran QB who limits his mistake and make some plays when he is given enough time.  But we all saw what happens when the pressure is on; he's not a playmaker.  When he missed that wide open TD throw that could have given the chiefs a 17 pts lead, I thought to myself "Smith just lost them the game".

 

thats what happens when you have a GAME MANAGER level QB. 

 

You will NEVER win a super bowl with Alex Smith as your QB. (unless of course, you are able to field a 2000 Baltimore Ravens defense around him, which likely never will be repeated in the current era)

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The NFL is without a doubt fixed, but Luck is a legit QB. 

 

LOL...  What?  So the NFL is fixed, but luck is legit despite the fix?  The caveman is a good QB, but you can't have it both ways.  Your signature is ridiculous, by the way.  I figured you wrote that while you were drunk, but you're standing by it now too?  LOL.  I noticed you've modified it a bit since you sobered up, but it's still a silly signature.  

 

We shouldn't be talking about Luck. It was a good comeback but he would have killed the team against a good side. We should be talking about Hilton. That was the most dominant display I've ever seen in the playoffs from a wr. Most of his catches there wasn't a defender near him.

 

Andy Reid's call was to play prevent the 2nd half.  The Chiefs gave luck everything he's good at, quick reads and underneath stuff.  Reid  is not a very good coach.  Glad WE didn't waste our money on a proven choker.  TMD, how's your boy looking today?

 

Luck and Roethlisberger look similar in the pocket; both are big strong horses who aren't terribly concerned about a rushing DE who they most likely outweigh.  They know their physical size and strength can buy them a couple more beats of time if they see a route opening up down field.  Luck's wherewithal and confidence to pick up the fumble and dive it in separates him from about 80% of other QBs.  Could you imagine Brady trying something like that?  

 

Great analysis.  I think Ben is a bigger QB with less mobility, but your thought still remains.  The caveman clearly has talent, but until he can fix his accuracy, he's beatable.  A better team would have destroyed luck and the c'lots.  Reid's team choked AND got decimated by injuries.  But you know the media is loving this win for the c'lots.  Can't wait till next year!

 

Yeah and a lot of that was coverage breakdown/ blown assignment. Thats a big reason he was so wide open on a lot of those receptions. It was hardly "the most dominant display of a WR in the playoffs ever". Thats laughable. 

 

Just off the top of my head, Terrell Owens had a more dominant display as a WR in the SB and his team lost. 

 

Terrel Owens?  The drop master?  LOL.  You talk out of both sides of your face it's hard to follow what you are even saying/meaning anymore.  Reid's coached team blew coverages...  Reid was the coach you had wet dreams about for the Jags, yet all of a sudden his team "blew coverages"?  OK, bro-chacho

 

 

 

thats what happens when you have a GAME MANAGER level QB. 

 

You will NEVER win a super bowl with Alex Smith as your QB. (unless of course, you are able to field a 2000 Baltimore Ravens defense around him, which likely never will be repeated in the current era)

 

What about the Bucs D when they won?  What about the Raven's D last year?  You can win with a good QB.  You don't need an elite QB, you need a very good team, with a very good coach.  

 

I honestly don't think you know what you're talking about.  The jags finally appear to have a good HC, we look to have a good owner that keeps his mouth shut and just invests in the team, and we have a GM that appears to be able to evaluate talent and make statements that support his vision.

 

All of this in the first year.  Who cares what the other teams in the division are doing.  If you're gonna be a winner, you ignore the other guy and you focus internally.  As far as I'm concerned, we're primed for some interesting developments with the Jags.  The rest of the AFC South can kick rocks.  I see us becoming very similar to the SeaHawks, we're gonna be in the toughest division in football, but we're gonna be the TOUGHEST team in that division.  You may not see it yet, but it's coming.  I don't fear the caveman or the c'lots.  I don't fear the t'horns and thier new coach or their new QB.  Why should I?  It's about building a TEAM.  Not about trying to get scared of who we have to play.  If we build this team properly, we'll be just fine.  No matter the competition.

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I honestly don't think you know what you're talking about.  The jags finally appear to have a good HC, we look to have a good owner that keeps his mouth shut and just invests in the team, and we have a GM that appears to be able to evaluate talent and make statements that support his vision.

 

All of this in the first year.  Who cares what the other teams in the division are doing.  If you're gonna be a winner, you ignore the other guy and you focus internally.  As far as I'm concerned, we're primed for some interesting developments with the Jags.  The rest of the AFC South can kick rocks.  I see us becoming very similar to the SeaHawks, we're gonna be in the toughest division in football, but we're gonna be the TOUGHEST team in that division.  You may not see it yet, but it's coming.  I don't fear the caveman or the c'lots.  I don't fear the t'horns and thier new coach or their new QB.  Why should I?  It's about building a TEAM.  Not about trying to get scared of who we have to play.  If we build this team properly, we'll be just fine.  No matter the competition.

 

The above should make for some very good excuses, if / when your optimism doesn't pan out. As much as you don't think it matters, division environment does matter. Thats why teams like the Cardinals never really were able to successfully rebuild when in the former NFC East with the Cowboys, Redskins, Giants and lesser extent Eagles. It makes it too hard for teams like that to get over the hump. I'll bet a lot of Cardinal fans at that time had a similar naive mindset as you have above. 

 

The Jags themselves had their most success when the AFC Central for the most part was at an ebb. 

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The above should make for some very good excuses, if / when your optimism doesn't pan out. As much as you don't think it matters, division environment does matter. Thats why teams like the Cardinals never really were able to successfully rebuild when in the former NFC East with the Cowboys, Redskins, Giants and lesser extent Eagles. It makes it too hard for teams like that to get over the hump. I'll bet a lot of Cardinal fans at that time had a similar naive mindset as you have above. 

 

The Jags themselves had their most success when the AFC Central for the most part was at an ebb. 

 

You're the one that speaks of coaches and player acquisition, yet I'm naive?  It appears from how you have evaluated EVERY other team versus how you evaluate the new Jaguars that I'm not optimistic but realistic.  While from reading your analysis, it appears that you just cannot see anything positive with the new regime while you continuously prop up other teams in our own division and around the league as doing the right things.  

 

I've been very critical of Fische as anyone, matter of fact I still don't think I'm actually spelling his name right now.  It's just fascinating to read posts that are looking to fire the OC, and thus "rebuild" the offensive philosophy, AFTER THE FIRST YEAR of a rebuild.

 

I'm not naive, but I have seen progression, no matter the caliber of competition.  It's a matter of time to determine where we stand within the division.  But to consider the c'lots and t'horns as the darlings with ignoring glaring misteps by both organizations is what I consider the MOST naive.  You act as though we have to content with franchises of the same caliber as the Patriots.  We don't.  All the franchises in our division are highly flawed in my opinion.  Mcnair, Adams, and Irsay remind me more of Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder than they do of the Krafts...  

 

This allows a window for Khan to stay the course, be consistent, maintain a level head and build the dominant team we are all hoping for.

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I'm not naive, but I have seen progression, no matter the caliber of competition.  It's a matter of time to determine where we stand within the division.  But to consider the c'lots and t'horns as the darlings with ignoring glaring misteps by both organizations is what I consider the MOST naive.  You act as though we have to content with franchises of the same caliber as the Patriots.  We don't.  All the franchises in our division are highly flawed in my opinion.  Mcnair, Adams, and Irsay remind me more of Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder than they do of the Krafts...  

 

 

 

Adams is dead. & How does McNair remind you of either Snyder or Jerry Jones? Now, I can see the Irsay/ Jerrry Jones comparison, but the other is a head scratcher. 

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Adams is dead. & How does McNair remind you of either Snyder or Jerry Jones? Now, I can see the Irsay/ Jerrry Jones comparison, but the other is a head scratcher. 

 

LOL, the Adams Family...  LOL  Loved that show in re-runs back in the 80's.  But that's what I meant.  Bud was a bad owner, I'm not concerned that his son-in-law now at the head of the organization is gonna be any better.

 

The t'horns over paid to bring in Schaub from Atlanta, they then brought in Kubiak who was basically a mediocre HC, much like JDR...  Actually, you're probably right...  McNair is more of a Weaver type Owner than anything else.  I'll retract my statement about him, but to think the t'horns are gonna be a monster in our division is still highly suspect.  I'm not impressed.  You have a new HC coming from the Belicheat tree.  The Belicheat tree is the most over-rated and under-performing coaching tree I've ever seen.  But you never know, they may turn things around...  Doubt it though.  They've proven nothing to over-hype them to the point you have in the last couple weeks-- IE the new HC hire and the new OC hire...  It's way to early to annoint anything, on top of your nightmare Bridgewater senario.

 

Again, I'm just not impressed with the other franchises in our division.  Weaver was a mediocre owner, I'll give you that.  You just felt like he wanted to small ball everything.  I don't see that from this current regime.  This offseason will show alot.  But I'll remain positive untill I have to start scratching my head.  At this point, I'm not scratching my head.

 

For instance, we all freaked out with the Monroe trade.  How's that trade lookin' now?  Pretty good for the Jags.  Not so good for the Ravens.  It's POSSIBLE that the Caldwell might know what he's doing.  Let's allow this to continue before we decide that this new regime is in  trouble.

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LOL, the Adams Family...  LOL  Loved that show in re-runs back in the 80's.  But that's what I meant.  Bud was a bad owner, I'm not concerned that his son-in-law now at the head of the organization is gonna be any better.

 

The t'horns over paid to bring in Schaub from Atlanta, they then brought in Kubiak who was basically a mediocre HC, much like JDR...  Actually, you're probably right...  McNair is more of a Weaver type Owner than anything else.  I'll retract my statement about him, but to think the t'horns are gonna be a monster in our division is still highly suspect.  I'm not impressed.  You have a new HC coming from the Belicheat tree.  The Belicheat tree is the most over-rated and under-performing coaching tree I've ever seen.  But you never know, they may turn things around...  Doubt it though.  They've proven nothing to over-hype them to the point you have in the last couple weeks-- IE the new HC hire and the new OC hire...  It's way to early to annoint anything, on top of your nightmare Bridgewater senario.

 

Again, I'm just not impressed with the other franchises in our division.  Weaver was a mediocre owner, I'll give you that.  You just felt like he wanted to small ball everything.  I don't see that from this current regime.  This offseason will show alot.  But I'll remain positive untill I have to start scratching my head.  At this point, I'm not scratching my head.

 

For instance, we all freaked out with the Monroe trade.  How's that trade lookin' now?  Pretty good for the Jags.  Not so good for the Ravens.  It's POSSIBLE that the Caldwell might know what he's doing.  Let's allow this to continue before we decide that this new regime is in  trouble.

 

The thing that was frustrating about Weaver is he seemed to get WORSE as he went along. 

 

Weaver flat out knocked one out of the park with the Tom Coughlin hire; it was a terrific choice and Weaver was good with many of his early decisions to get the franchise going....but as time went on, made a lot of bad decisions and the franchise suffered. He overreacted with the philosophy change in management structure after Coughlin with the "committee approach" that never works. Too many Inidans & not enough Chiefs culminates from that approach. Accountability is camoflouged and too much of the blame game ensues. IMO, all that needed to happen was to remove Coughlin from the GM spot and get a sseparate GM. Coughlin's "coaching" was not the issue and firing a coach when his "coaching" is not the reason the team was losing just wasn't a smart idea. The 2009 uniform change was just another in what became a series of bad decisions. 

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The thing that was frustrating about Weaver is he seemed to get WORSE as he went along. 

 

Weaver flat out knocked one out of the park with the Tom Coughlin hire; it was a terrific choice and Weaver was good with many of his early decisions to get the franchise going....but as time went on, made a lot of bad decisions and the franchise suffered. He overreacted with the philosophy change in management structure after Coughlin with the "committee approach" that never works. Too many Inidans & not enough Chiefs culminates from that approach. Accountability is camoflouged and too much of the blame game ensues. IMO, all that needed to happen was to remove Coughlin from the GM spot and get a sseparate GM. Coughlin's "coaching" was not the issue and firing a coach when his "coaching" is not the reason the team was losing just wasn't a smart idea. The 2009 uniform change was just another in what became a series of bad decisions. 

 

Yeah, well that was then.  Ya know?  How's the Julius Caesar soliloquy go?  I don't come to praise Weaver/Coughlin but to bury him?  Coughlin is gone and I don't care to bring him back.  Weaver's greatness was figuring a way to bring Jacksonville a team.  I never would have become a fan of the Jaguars without having my mom and step dad move there and get me involved with the Jaguars.  I should be a Denver Bronco fan, but I loved the city and the team was great the 1 year I lived there and had season tickets.  So I got hooked.

 

Either way, this team now has a new owner.  I think the new mentality will surpass what we've been accustomed to.  It's just a matter of letting it play out.  Again, you can critique the finer points all you want.  The thing that annoys me about your nit-picking is that you are acting as though this is the same Franchise that Weaver possessed.  The fact is that it's NOT.  Give it time to marinate before you go all doom and gloom--Again.   :thumbsup:

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Alex Smith is who he is.  A verteran QB who limits his mistake and make some plays when he is given enough time.  But we all saw what happens when the pressure is on; he's not a playmaker.  When he missed that wide open TD throw that could have given the chiefs a 17 pts lead, I thought to myself "Smith just lost them the game".

are you serious right now? how much did gray play all year. I think when he went in they said he had 9 snaps all year. It's hard to judge your players speed when he's taken 9 snaps all year. If it was charles or davis who both actually run quickly that would have been a TD but gray looks like he was Jogging on the play despite running full speed. 

 

Like i said before, Its hard to play with people who you've never played with before the entire season and are now only playing because of injury and are going against 1st teamers of the opposite team who they don't go against at all during the year. Your statement of Alex Smith being a game manager after what he did last night is completely arrogant.

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are you serious right now? how much did gray play all year. I think when he went in they said he had 9 snaps all year. It's hard to judge your players speed when he's taken 9 snaps all year. If it was charles or davis who both actually run quickly that would have been a TD but gray looks like he was Jogging on the play despite running full speed. 

 

Like i said before, Its hard to play with people who you've never played with before the entire season and are now only playing because of injury and are going against 1st teamers of the opposite team who they don't go against at all during the year. Your statement of Alex Smith being a game manager after what he did last night is completely arrogant.

 

I dunno about that. ALex Smith has been a game manager his entire career. The defense Alex Smith faced last night is garbage. Its been garbage more most of the season. They gave up big points to a LOT of teams this season. 

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