Mariota and Bortles are trash. Awful wastes of first round picks.
Don't let any records fool ya... sure they aren't as bad as the Manziels and Weedens but these guys are red hot jersey garbage.

And Bortles is still better.

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Mariota and Bortles are trash. Awful wastes of first round picks.
Don't let any records fool ya... sure they aren't as bad as the Manziels and Weedens but these guys are red hot jersey garbage.

And Bortles is still better.

You give Bortles TEN O-line and he looks 10x better than he does now.

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Mariota and Bortles are trash. Awful wastes of first round picks.
Don't let any records fool ya... sure they aren't as bad as the Manziels and Weedens but these guys are red hot jersey garbage.

And Bortles is still better.

You give Bortles TEN O-line and he looks 10x better than he does now.

The Jaguars Oline has been out playing the titans oline for most of the year though.

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He obviously does not know what his talking about as explained. Mariota with a gimpy leg stood tall in the pockett and racked the Colts last game, granted it was the Clots, but he has shown enough potenial that if you cater to his strength he could def be a franchise QB, he cab make all the passes as a QB. Its hard to fine aby rhythym in an offense built by two old stubborn coaches. You got OC Terry robiskie that hasn’t been an offensive coordinator since his 00 Redskins days, and you got the lead guy in mulsucky that has shown his offense only works for a year max. Go ask the the 2011 Falcons and look at what they were saying about Mulsucky

If you are thinking he’s a pocket QB, there lies the problem. He is anything but. Been the knock on him for years and excels in option schemes. Be lucky you played weak teams during his leg issue. Bottom line, he is what he is.

Mariota and Bortles are trash. Awful wastes of first round picks.
Don't let any records fool ya... sure they aren't as bad as the Manziels and Weedens but these guys are red hot jersey garbage.

And Bortles is still better.

You give Bortles TEN O-line and he looks 10x better than he does now.

What an awful comment. Whats with these posts on the Jaguars boards that automatically seem to think that with a good line any QB could be successful? Smh.

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One thing about Mariota, he always takes responsibility for the bad plays and gives all credit elsewhere for the good ones.
After the game when asked about his interceptions he gives no excuses, just bad throws. Says he can't keep hurting this team, has to do better, and will do better. When asked about his insane throw to walker with 4 colts around him, he gives all credit to walker. This kid is a leader, and he earns everyones respect the right way. So yes, he makes it hard not to like him.

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One thing about Mariota, he always takes responsibility for the bad plays and gives all credit elsewhere for the good ones.
After the game when asked about his interceptions he gives no excuses, just bad throws. Says he can't keep hurting this team, has to do better, and will do better. When asked about his insane throw to walker with 4 colts around him, he gives all credit to walker. This kid is a leader, and he earns everyones respect the right way. So yes, he makes it hard not to like him.

Mariota is the much better passer than Bortles. He makes passes that Bortles could only dream of. That triple coverage he made to Delanie Walker was a beauty to see. Sometimes he gets ahead of himself and thinks he can make any pass there is, thats why hes kind of been reckless with the ball this year, but no question in my mind that Mariota is far the better QB than bortles.

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One thing about Mariota, he always takes responsibility for the bad plays and gives all credit elsewhere for the good ones.
After the game when asked about his interceptions he gives no excuses, just bad throws. Says he can't keep hurting this team, has to do better, and will do better. When asked about his insane throw to walker with 4 colts around him, he gives all credit to walker. This kid is a leader, and he earns everyones respect the right way. So yes, he makes it hard not to like him.

This is perhaps Bortles' best trait too. He is extremely likable, he's just a bad QB.

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Mariota may be better than Bortles, but he's still a below average quarterback that has regressed this year. He's not good and that entire offense has gotten worse because of him. You will defend him because he's all you have, but when you face reality you will be better for it.

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Funny to think Zach Mettenberger had a better Td/int ratio his rookie year for the Titans, than your elite quarterback has in his third year.

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Mariota may be better than Bortles, but he's still a below average quarterback that has regressed this year.  He's not good and that entire offense has gotten worse because of him.  You will defend him because he's all you have, but when you face reality you will be better for it.

Mariota is the best qb the Titans or the Jags have had in a long time. But ok

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How many times i have to say it, Mularkey is saving up for the playoffs. The Titans will begin firing on all cylinders soon enough.

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It's all in the plan. What the Jags fans think of Mariota, hopefully Marrone thinks the same thing. Mularkey knows he's about to face the jags two games in a row.

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One thing about Mariota, he always takes responsibility for the bad plays and gives all credit elsewhere for the good ones.
After the game when asked about his interceptions he gives no excuses, just bad throws. Says he can't keep hurting this team, has to do better, and will do better. When asked about his insane throw to walker with 4 colts around him, he gives all credit to walker. This kid is a leader, and he earns everyones respect the right way. So yes, he makes it hard not to like him.

Mariota is the much better passer than Bortles. He makes passes that Bortles could only dream of. That triple coverage he made to Delanie Walker was a beauty to see. Sometimes he gets ahead of himself and thinks he can make any pass there is, thats why hes kind of been reckless with the ball this year, but no question in my mind that Mariota is far the better QB than bortles.

3 touchdowns and 7 interceptions over his last 3 games would create a lynch mob for most fans, in your mind that makes him elite. So your last comment "no question in  my mind", doesn't really hold any water.

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The way I look at it is,,

Rookie year Mariota: Elite prospect. Nothing around him. Plays average all round but shows some good traits. Good year all things considered.

Second year Mariota: Improves in every aspect , very good pocket passer. Has a good line and run game. Easily above average.

Third year Mariota: Regression from the previous year. Not as accurate. Throws more picks. Doesn't look sure of himself. Bad offense , line and run not playing well. Bad year.

So we have 1 average year as a rookie, one pretty good year and one bad year. Overall I'm still banking on an elite prospect like Mariota to be at very least an average or above QB in the future.

With young QBs it's probably best not to overreact to one bad year. Development isn't linear as we've seen multiple times in the league. We've seen how crucial coaching is for young QBs this year especially. Do you believe Mike Mularkey can develop Mariota correctly or play a scheme suited to him?

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You're significantly underselling Mariota's 2nd year too. He was legitimately pro bowl caliber.

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Ms Mary is no good. I wouldn't trade Bortles for her and a ham sandwich.

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The way I look at it is,,

Rookie year Mariota: Elite prospect. Nothing around him. Plays average all round but shows some good traits. Good year all things considered.

Second year Mariota: Improves in every aspect , very good pocket passer. Has a good line and run game. Easily above average.

Third year Mariota: Regression from the previous year. Not as accurate. Throws more picks. Doesn't look sure of himself. Bad offense , line and run not playing well. Bad year.

So we have 1 average year as a rookie, one pretty good year and one bad year. Overall I'm still banking on an elite prospect like Mariota to be at very least an average or above QB in the future.  

With young QBs it's probably best not to overreact to one bad year. Development isn't linear as we've seen multiple times in the league. We've seen how crucial coaching is for young QBs this year especially. Do you believe Mike Mularkey can develop Mariota correctly or play a scheme suited to him?

The average year, good year, bad year hits very close to home! However at least in Blake's bad year, still more scores than turnovers. Not defending Blake, just bringing the " so much better" crowd down a notch or 2.

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You're significantly underselling Mariota's 2nd year too. He was legitimately pro bowl caliber.

You're right, was probably top 10 that year.  

Mind boggling that people would take Flacco over him and Dak.

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You're significantly underselling Mariota's 2nd year too. He was legitimately pro bowl caliber.

Well yeah!!  He had 37 total touchdowns, oh wait I'm thinking of the other guy in the debate. It would take Mariota's close to 2 years to hit that number.

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The way I look at it is,,

Rookie year Mariota: Elite prospect. Nothing around him. Plays average all round but shows some good traits. Good year all things considered.

Second year Mariota: Improves in every aspect , very good pocket passer. Has a good line and run game. Easily above average.

Third year Mariota: Regression from the previous year. Not as accurate. Throws more picks. Doesn't look sure of himself. Bad offense , line and run not playing well. Bad year.

So we have 1 average year as a rookie, one pretty good year and one bad year. Overall I'm still banking on an elite prospect like Mariota to be at very least an average or above QB in the future.  

With young QBs it's probably best not to overreact to one bad year. Development isn't linear as we've seen multiple times in the league. We've seen how crucial coaching is for young QBs this year especially. Do you believe Mike Mularkey can develop Mariota correctly or play a scheme suited to him?

The average year, good year, bad year hits very close to home! However at least in Blake's bad year, still more scores than turnovers. Not defending Blake, just bringing the " so much better" crowd down a notch or 2.

Blake had an awful rookie year, an average second year, an awful 3rd year and a bad 4th year (this year). 

32/32 GMs would take Mariota over Bortles.

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Already know the reply will be about 2015 so let's say just say it's an "above average year".

That's 2 awful years, an above average year and a bad year.

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You're significantly underselling Mariota's 2nd year too. He was legitimately pro bowl caliber.

Well yeah!!  He had 37 total touchdowns, oh wait I'm thinking of the other guy in the debate. It would take Mariota's close to 2 years to hit that number.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...riMa01.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...rtBl00.htm

Compare them on a per throw basis if you want a fair picture. Go to the advanced passing stats for both of them, about half way down, and those + stats are averaged to a per throw basis where 100 is exactly league average. It's also based on far, far better rate stats compared to overall TDs. As you will quickly notice, there is a lot of above average on one players page and not much above average at all on the other persons.

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Already know the reply will be about 2015 so let's say just say it's an "above average year".

That's 2 awful years, an above average year and a bad year.

You don't have to couch your opinion just because of what you think the responses will be. Blake's 2015 was objectively average, and truthfully a tick below average.

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