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#61

(01-06-2018, 06:41 PM)Dabillz Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 06:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Indeed.  Here's hoping we can be part of a changing of the guard.  I'd enjoy a Jags/Bills postseason rivalry developing over the coming years.  

You know our GM is a pretty proud Buffalo guy.  (I'm one of the few dozen folks that actually likes him around here.)
I'd take that rivalry with open arms.  Well best of luck tomorrow and let's go Bills!!!!!!

Thanks, here's hoping we all escape w/o major injury or blown calls by officials. 
Cheers!
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#62

(01-06-2018, 05:25 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 01:14 PM)What a Tuel Wrote: On another note for everyone, why are you all bashing Buffalo instead of talking about football? 

Dude, how can someone not pick on Buffalo --- your average household income is $31,668  


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Buffalo, New York Income and Salaries

The income per capita is $20,726, which includes all adults and children. The median household income is $31,668.

Now we are comparing income? As if your cost of living isn't inflated by about 20-30% compared to ours as it is. Not to mention the elderly retirees spiking the income. But you guys aren't ones to speak in terms of context and facts.
   
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#63

(01-06-2018, 06:52 PM)What a Tuel Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 05:25 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: Dude, how can someone not pick on Buffalo --- your average household income is $31,668  


http://www.bestplaces.net/economy/city/new_york/buffalo

Buffalo, New York Income and Salaries

The income per capita is $20,726, which includes all adults and children. The median household income is $31,668.

Now we are comparing income? As if your cost of living isn't inflated by about 20-30% compared to ours as it is. Not to mention the elderly retirees spiking the income. But you guys aren't ones to speak in terms of context and facts.
(Emphasis added)

You mean like offering a lame argument about strength of schedule, without mentioning the Jaguars beat twice as many teams with winning records than the Bills?
 

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#64

(01-06-2018, 06:57 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 06:52 PM)What a Tuel Wrote: Now we are comparing income? As if your cost of living isn't inflated by about 20-30% compared to ours as it is. Not to mention the elderly retirees spiking the income. But you guys aren't ones to speak in terms of context and facts.
(Emphasis added)

You mean like offering a lame argument about strength of schedule, without mentioning the Jaguars beat twice as many teams with winning records than the Bills?

Once again, the Jaguars having the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL is indisputable fact. A third of your games and half of your wins were against 3 teams that had a combined total of 8 wins this year.
   
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#65

(01-06-2018, 07:04 PM)What a Tuel Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 06:57 PM)Bullseye Wrote: (Emphasis added)

You mean like offering a lame argument about strength of schedule, without mentioning the Jaguars beat twice as many teams with winning records than the Bills?

Once again, the Jaguars having the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL is indisputable fact. A third of your games and half of your wins were against 3 teams that had a combined total of 8 wins this year.

And strength of victory was nearly identical; .396 versus .394.
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#66

(01-06-2018, 07:04 PM)What a Tuel Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 06:57 PM)Bullseye Wrote: (Emphasis added)

You mean like offering a lame argument about strength of schedule, without mentioning the Jaguars beat twice as many teams with winning records than the Bills?

Once again, the Jaguars having the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL is indisputable fact. A third of your games and half of your wins were against 3 teams that had a combined total of 8 wins this year.

Indisputable fact:  Jaguars have twice as many wins against teams with winning records (4) than the Bills (2) and their fans who are whining about strength of schedule, as if somehow that tiebreaker should apply now.

No worries though.  If we beat the Bills tomorrow, they'll still say we haven't beaten anybody.
 

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#67

(01-06-2018, 07:04 PM)What a Tuel Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 06:57 PM)Bullseye Wrote: (Emphasis added)

You mean like offering a lame argument about strength of schedule, without mentioning the Jaguars beat twice as many teams with winning records than the Bills?

Once again, the Jaguars having the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL is indisputable fact. A third of your games and half of your wins were against 3 teams that had a combined total of 8 wins this year.
Your argument was that we haven’t beaten quality opponents. Bullseye showed you that we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have. You keep repeating the same number, but you’re ignoring that, even though our SoS is lower than yours, we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have
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#68

(01-06-2018, 07:21 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 07:04 PM)What a Tuel Wrote: Once again, the Jaguars having the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL is indisputable fact. A third of your games and half of your wins were against 3 teams that had a combined total of 8 wins this year.
Your argument was that we haven’t beaten quality opponents. Bullseye showed you that we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have. You keep repeating the same number, but you’re ignoring that, even though our SoS is lower than yours, we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have

You'd think that would be obvious.
 

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#69

(01-06-2018, 07:21 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 07:04 PM)What a Tuel Wrote: Once again, the Jaguars having the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL is indisputable fact. A third of your games and half of your wins were against 3 teams that had a combined total of 8 wins this year.
Your argument was that we haven’t beaten quality opponents. Bullseye showed you that we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have. You keep repeating the same number, but you’re ignoring that, even though our SoS is lower than yours, we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have

That was never my argument. You guys keep trotting out this argument that you beat quality teams. Congrats. You still had the 2nd easiest schedule in the league.

If one of those 5 games was against a tougher opponent, you may not have even won your division.

You also keep making the argument that the Bills "aren't better" when I am not making a comparison to the Bills at all. We will see that on the field tomorrow.
   
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#70

(01-06-2018, 07:31 PM)What a Tuel Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 07:21 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Your argument was that we haven’t beaten quality opponents. Bullseye showed you that we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have. You keep repeating the same number, but you’re ignoring that, even though our SoS is lower than yours, we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have

If one of those 5 games was against a tougher opponent, you may not have even won your division.

And if the Ravens don't blow their lead you wouldn't even be in the playoffs. And if my mom had a [BLEEP}, she'd be my dad. If if if, but none of that happened.
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#71

(01-06-2018, 07:31 PM)What a Tuel Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 07:21 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Your argument was that we haven’t beaten quality opponents. Bullseye showed you that we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have. You keep repeating the same number, but you’re ignoring that, even though our SoS is lower than yours, we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have

That was never my argument. You guys keep trotting out this argument that you beat quality teams. Congrats. You still had the 2nd easiest schedule in the league.

If one of those 5 games was against a tougher opponent, you may not have even won your division.

You also keep making the argument that the Bills "aren't better" when I am not making a comparison to the Bills at all. We will see that on the field tomorrow.

You just proved my point. That’s exactly the argument you said you didn’t make. You’re saying we haven’t beaten tougher opponents. Why do you think bullseye is bringing up that we beat more winning teams? He’s telling you that when beat more of them than you did. You just played more of them. 

While I think the Jags are better, I never made that argument. Jags fans are more hostile toward your presence because you guys flooded our board with trolls. You likely would’ve seen a more welcoming response if these trolls didn’t come in here saying the Bills were going to blow out the Jags.
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#72

(01-06-2018, 07:33 PM)DragonFury Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 07:31 PM)What a Tuel Wrote: If one of those 5 games was against a tougher opponent, you may not have even won your division.

And if the Ravens don't blow their lead you wouldn't even be in the playoffs. And if my mom had a [BLEEP}, she'd be my dad. If if if, but none of that happened.

Right. So why have I seen it mentioned a dozen times about the Ravens and Bengals? Just doesn't count that way for the Bills? Or have you guys been using it as an insult so we are just flipping it around on you?
   
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#73

(01-06-2018, 07:31 PM)What a Tuel Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 07:21 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Your argument was that we haven’t beaten quality opponents. Bullseye showed you that we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have. You keep repeating the same number, but you’re ignoring that, even though our SoS is lower than yours, we’ve beaten more winning teams than you have

That was never my argument. You guys keep trotting out this argument that you beat quality teams. Congrats. You still had the 2nd easiest schedule in the league.

If one of those 5 games was against a tougher opponent, you may not have even won your division.
One of the problems with your argument is the Bills didn't even beat every team with a losing record on their schedule.

The Bills lost to Cincy (7-9) and the Jets (5-11).  If another one of the teams on your schedule had a losing record, you may not have even made the playoffs.

I can guaran-damn-tee the Bills don't beat the Garoppolo led 49ers.
 

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#74

(01-06-2018, 06:00 PM)Dabillz Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 05:56 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: Haha. I would estimate there were 40 or so on the last leg of my flight compared to 10 jags fans. When I arrived at JAX I didn’t notice THAT many. I’m staying in what I think is the downtown area and there are some herds here too. But I’ve also seen some travelling Jags fans as well. The thing is, the Bills fans stand out because they are in bills gear from head to toe already.

That being said one of them honestly thought they would straight up outnumber Jags fans tomorrow at the game. 

As one of my favorite posters here would say - buwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
What would your guess be on how many bills fans will be there.  Not trying to be a [BLEEP] or snarky I'm just curious on some jags fans estimates.  I unfortunately wasn't able to manage to swing the days off with my job so I'll be watching from the couch.

In all seriousness, I think the Bills will bring a respectable crowd. I'm guessing about 5K to 6K if they were able to get on the aftermarket quickly enough.
I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you. 
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#75

It's kind of funny that all these recent trolls wont be around come 2p.m. tomorrow. Blowout
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Your thoughts become your words,
Your words become your actions,
Your actions become your habits,
Your habits become your values,
Your values become your destiny.
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#76

(01-06-2018, 08:24 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 07:31 PM)What a Tuel Wrote: That was never my argument. You guys keep trotting out this argument that you beat quality teams. Congrats. You still had the 2nd easiest schedule in the league.

If one of those 5 games was against a tougher opponent, you may not have even won your division.
One of the problems with your argument is the Bills didn't even beat every team with a losing record on their schedule.

The Bills lost to Cincy (7-9) and the Jets (5-11).  If another one of the teams on your schedule had a losing record, you may not have even made the playoffs.

I can guaran-damn-tee the Bills don't beat the Garoppolo led 49ers.

Ok, you lost to the Jets, and 49ers.

I can guaran-damn-tee you don't make the playoffs playing 2 against the Patriots. And playing the 3 playoff team NFC South.

But once again you had a cupcake schedule. We will see next year when Luck/Watson/Watt are back in your division, and you play a rejuvenated AFC/NFC East + Pittsburgh + KC
   
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#77

(01-06-2018, 10:16 PM)What a Tuel Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 08:24 PM)Bullseye Wrote: One of the problems with your argument is the Bills didn't even beat every team with a losing record on their schedule.

The Bills lost to Cincy (7-9) and the Jets (5-11).  If another one of the teams on your schedule had a losing record, you may not have even made the playoffs.

I can guaran-damn-tee the Bills don't beat the Garoppolo led 49ers.

Ok, you lost to the Jets, and 49ers.

I can guaran-damn-tee you don't make the playoffs playing 2 against the Patriots. And playing the 3 playoff team NFC South.

But once again you had a cupcake schedule. We will see next year when Luck/Watson/Watt are back in your division, and you play a rejuvenated AFC/NFC East + Pittsburgh + KC

Since you think of yourself as such a student of the game, why don't you look at the Jags and Bills common opponents this year and compare apples to apples. The truth is NE is no great shakes, they had the record they did because they got to play you guys and Miami twice.
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(01-06-2018, 10:16 PM)What a Tuel Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 08:24 PM)Bullseye Wrote: One of the problems with your argument is the Bills didn't even beat every team with a losing record on their schedule.

The Bills lost to Cincy (7-9) and the Jets (5-11).  If another one of the teams on your schedule had a losing record, you may not have even made the playoffs.

I can guaran-damn-tee the Bills don't beat the Garoppolo led 49ers.

Ok, you lost to the Jets, and 49ers.

I can guaran-damn-tee you don't make the playoffs playing 2 against the Patriots. And playing the 3 playoff team NFC South.

But once again you had a cupcake schedule. We will see next year when Luck/Watson/Watt are back in your division, and you play a rejuvenated AFC/NFC East + Pittsburgh + KC

Next year? We'll see you tomorrow. Although I can understand why a Bills fan is already thinking about next year.
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#79

(01-06-2018, 10:25 PM)jjgator Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 10:16 PM)What a Tuel Wrote: Ok, you lost to the Jets, and 49ers.

I can guaran-damn-tee you don't make the playoffs playing 2 against the Patriots. And playing the 3 playoff team NFC South.

But once again you had a cupcake schedule. We will see next year when Luck/Watson/Watt are back in your division, and you play a rejuvenated AFC/NFC East + Pittsburgh + KC

Next year?  We'll see you tomorrow.  Although I can understand why a Bills fan is already thinking about next year.

Reading comprehension bud.
   
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(01-06-2018, 10:23 PM)hb1148 Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 10:16 PM)What a Tuel Wrote: Ok, you lost to the Jets, and 49ers.

I can guaran-damn-tee you don't make the playoffs playing 2 against the Patriots. And playing the 3 playoff team NFC South.

But once again you had a cupcake schedule. We will see next year when Luck/Watson/Watt are back in your division, and you play a rejuvenated AFC/NFC East + Pittsburgh + KC

Since you think of yourself as such a student of the game, why don't you look at the Jags and Bills common opponents this year and compare apples to apples. The truth is NE is no great shakes, they had the record they did because they got to play you guys and Miami twice.

Any student of the game (I never claimed this but hey, you guys just make stuff up as you go along so why not) would understand that every game is its own matchup and how you play against the Colts isn't representative of how you play against the another team. That's pretty plainly the reason you beat Pittsburgh. You get beat common opponents against them, yet you beat them? How is that possible!?

Steelers 9-0
Jaguars 7-2

Bills 2-2
Jaguars 4-1
   
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