You’re acting like the Jags don’t own the Steelers too.

This year, yes. We've been doing this for over a decade... when they used to even have an elite defense. But like I said, the Steelers were too focused on us to even care about playing your team, you're welcome. Not your fault, just shows how dumb that team is and mentally weak. Kudos to any team that can own the Steelers, I love it.

Try looking at our head to head record with the Steelers and compare it to yours and then come back to me with just “this year” again.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

The Jags should stay in Nickel and Dime as the Pats don't have a dominant running game. Lewis and whoever does a pretty good job, but they're not big, bruising backs. They're the little, scat, shifty, type. Thus the Jags don't need to run the 4-3 or 4-6 much if any.

They can go with Jalen on Gronk and Bouye on Cook. Or run single high safety with Gipson, while Telvin shades Gronk underneath with Church over the top, Jack is man up with whatever back is in.

Jags on O should try pounding the ball. If NE is selling out to stop it, send the TE's over the middle and on out breaking routes. I would also use Blake on the Roll Out. If the Pats are determined or rather playing to stop the run and roll out, that leaves other areas of weakness which the Jag coaches need to take advantage of.

Marrone is looking to be a very cerebral coach. The offensive game plan he had for the Steelers shows this. That playaction up the middle to Bohanan backs this up.

Whoever is on Cook needs to maul him at the line! In the past, that's how you dealt with NE and their passing game. Coupled with hitting Brady in his mouth

Brady and the Pats are so good because of their SYSTEM. Brady and Bill have a connection which has flourished over the years because they have a great connection. Brady is able to give Bill what he wants on the field. Again, they have a SYSTEM and to fight a system you have to disrupt it. There's a reason many WR's couldn't cut it on the Pats. Brady demands his WR's to be where they're supposed to be on time...so he can almost make the throws blind-folded. Brady is good...but any QB who put the work in would be able to duplicate what Brady done in this SYSTEM.

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Points-allowed is important. We're also the 2nd best redzone offense, so if we're driving the field, the odds are that we're scoring. So, while you may dismiss the yards-allowed, if we get close enough to score then we probably will.

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This year, yes. We've been doing this for over a decade... when they used to even have an elite defense. But like I said, the Steelers were too focused on us to even care about playing your team, you're welcome. Not your fault, just shows how dumb that team is and mentally weak. Kudos to any team that can own the Steelers, I love it.

Try looking at our head to head record with the Steelers and compare it to yours and then come back to me with just “this year” again.

Jaguars since 2002 vs Pittsburg          6-5   (2-0 playoffs)  

Patriots since 2002 vs Pittsburg          12-2 (4-0 playoffs)

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And that's fine and dandy dude.
I really couldn't give two flips less.

There's more of one of you posters.
And like I said before, I won't be playing nice......so kudos to you for not being another troll.
But you're still just a Cheatriots fan to me 

And since you're one of a few Pats fans that came to our board... you draw the ire for all the [BLEEP] Pats fans out there. You draw the ire of all the years Brady has straight owned us. You draw the heat that any other Pats fan, poster, player, or coach ever caused.
And I think Blackie was the one who spoke with smugness.

Only 5 days left though... and I imagine you'll disappear like the bills, squealers, and tack fans that made their way to the danger zone.

Good comeback. We've been making the Steelers and Bills fans disappear, better than anyone else has. Again, welcome to the NFL.

OK... pretty sure everyone knows you've owned the hapless bills for a long time. Among all the other AFC trash like Miami and the jests over the years.
But you're not being smug at all, eh?


Sorry if some of us are excited for our team finally doing well.
Sorry if that brings a certain bravado with it as well.
Sorry...not sorry.

Good comeback... completely avoiding everything said and ending with some nonsense like "welcome to the NFL"

Been here... since before I had my own team the Jaguars.
Been down since day one.
As opposed to hopping on a bandwagon in the early 2000s

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The offensive line has been great, allowing the team to lead the league in rushing and control flow of games, even in Fournette's absence. I see you like big name offensive specialists and undervalue the trenches where football is really played. The Jags O line just shut out a league best Steeler D line in sacks, while paving the way to 45 points for their 'weak' O, in tough Heinz Field. The weak O, as a unit were 6th or so in points this year, scoring 30+ points routinely. For a team saturated with no-names you sure display depth in reasoning.  And it's lovely how your D is not a 'weakness' relative to your amazing one-man O, while expecting opposing fans to highlight their perceived weaknesses. #CharminglyDenseWithoutRealizingIt

Funny. Is that why we use Lacrosse players, and undrafted QBs, as receivers, and have the best Oline coach in the NFL?

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This is a strange critique.

We scored 417 points total (5th overall).  Our defense scored seven (7) TDs or 49 points.  I'm no math major, but that's not even 12 percent of our points, if my math done in my head is correct.

How does that equate to "alot?"

But assuming arguendo it does equal "alot," are we to somehow apologize for our defense scoring points?

Are these points somehow less valuable than TDs scored by the offense, or do they otherwise not count?

Do the Patriots not benefit from defensive scores?  I remember Ty Law returning an INT for a TD in the Pats first SB win.  Does that not count?

If you subtracted defensive TDs and their extra points from our point total, we'd still be eleventh in scoring, which means our offense can still actually score points "legitimately."

(Anyone else find it interesting that a Pats fan would question the legitimacy of any other team's production?)

Another strange critique was basing the strength of a defense off of yards given up. Points is what matters, I'm sure you agree. I don't care if we give up 8,000 yards a game, as long as we hold teams to less than 17 points on average, I'll take that each time. Teams, since week 3 I think, could barely put 20 points up on this defense but that gets overshadowed by having Brady and the offense. 

Additionally, your team's schedule was ranked what, 30, 31st in the league? I wouldn't find that legitimacy questionable. Your team had a VERY easy schedule and lost to some of the worst teams. Your team in ranked #1 in scoring defense, so yes your team gets a ton of points through its defense. Not a bad thing, just a fact.

Considering the league and most media outlets rank defenses by yards allowed, it isn't so strange, although ultimately, points are the benchmark.

Once again, another fan trots  out the tired strength of schedule argument, conveniently forgetting the winning teams that were kept out of the playoffs because of losses to us (Bolts, Ravens, Seahawks).  It's awfully disingenuous to use that now considering the low likelihood you had us being anywhere near this point with this same schedule right before the season started.

I know you are not the Steelers or the Bills, but that strength of schedule argument didn't help either of them against us.  It won't help the Pats, either.

It won't help an aging Solder block Ngakoue or Cameron Fleming block Calais Campbell.

It won't help Hogan or Amendola beat the press of Ramsey or Bouye.

It won't help soften the blow of any hits we put on Brady.

It won't make Fournette any easier to tackle.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Try looking at our head to head record with the Steelers and compare it to yours and then come back to me with just “this year” again.

Jaguars since 2002 vs Pittsburg          6-5   (2-0 playoffs)  

Patriots since 2002 vs Pittsburg          12-2 (4-0 playoffs)

Jacksonville Jaguars lead series 14-11-0
[b]New England Patriots lead series 16-15-0[/b]

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Try looking at our head to head record with the Steelers and compare it to yours and then come back to me with just “this year” again.

Jaguars since 2002 vs Pittsburg          6-5   (2-0 playoffs)  

Patriots since 2002 vs Pittsburg          12-2 (4-0 playoffs)

I know it's hard for you, as a Pats fan, to believe, but history did not begin in 2002. Neither did our series with the Steelers.

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After reading this thread, I’ve determined that Patriots fans think their 29th ranked defense is good and our 6th ranked offense is just OK. They also seem to believe that Gronk is indefensible, and our defense isn’t physical enough to stand toe to toe with him.

I hope the Patriots are this arrogant when gameplanning the Jags.

Jaguars since 2002 vs Pittsburg          6-5   (2-0 playoffs)  

Patriots since 2002 vs Pittsburg          12-2 (4-0 playoffs)

Jacksonville Jaguars lead series 14-11-0
[b]New England Patriots lead series 16-15-0[/b]

I was just doing the Brady era.

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Jaguars since 2002 vs Pittsburg          6-5   (2-0 playoffs)  

Patriots since 2002 vs Pittsburg          12-2 (4-0 playoffs)

I know it's hard for you, as a Pats fan, to believe, but history did not begin in 2002.  Neither did our series with the Steelers.

The Patriots have sold out every game since 1993.

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After reading this thread, I’ve determined that Patriots fans think their 29th ranked defense is good and our 6th ranked offense is just OK. They also seem to believe that Gronk is indefensible, and our defense isn’t physical enough to stand toe to toe with him.

I hope the Patriots are this arrogant when gameplanning the Jags.

Jacksonville Jaguars lead series 14-11-0
[b]New England Patriots lead series 16-15-0[/b]

I was just doing the Brady era.

Well of course....

that's when you all became fans.

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Jaguars since 2002 vs Pittsburg          6-5   (2-0 playoffs)  

Patriots since 2002 vs Pittsburg          12-2 (4-0 playoffs)

Jacksonville Jaguars lead series 14-11-0
[b]New England Patriots lead series 16-15-0[/b]

No no no.  You don’t get it.  If you don’t count year X through Y, he’s right.  And if you only look at part of the season they have the number 1 Defense.  And if you only look at the last steelers game we give up 42 ppg. I’m mean come on.  The Patriots have been good for a long time.  Is there a need to change facts to make them look even better?

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After reading this thread, I’ve determined that Patriots fans think their 29th ranked defense is good and our 6th ranked offense is just OK. They also seem to believe that Gronk is indefensible, and our defense isn’t physical enough to stand toe to toe with him.

I hope the Patriots are this arrogant when gameplanning the Jags.

Jacksonville Jaguars lead series 14-11-0
[b]New England Patriots lead series 16-15-0[/b]

I was just doing the Brady era.

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I know it's hard for you, as a Pats fan, to believe, but history did not begin in 2002.  Neither did our series with the Steelers.

The Patriots have sold out every game since 1993.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

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I know it's hard for you, as a Pats fan, to believe, but history did not begin in 2002.  Neither did our series with the Steelers.

The Patriots have sold out every game since 1993.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

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The Patriots have sold out every game since 1993.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Yeah, what he said lol

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What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Yeah, what he said lol

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

1971 for me.

LOL this was this season. I couldn't even find the last time they soldout?


Jaguars hit attendance low under Khan’s ownership
Posted by Mike Florio on October 16, 2017, 11:22 AM EST

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At 3-2 before Sunday, the Jaguars entered their second true home game of the season with a winning record and a signature victory over the Steelers. Jacksonville’s home team also was alone in first place in the AFC South.

Given that the team has managed to sell plenty of tickets through plenty of struggles, they filled up EverBank Field for the game against the Rams, right?


That didn’t happen. In fact, it was the lowest showing at home since Shad Khan purchased the team. According to Phillip Hellman of the Florida Times-Union, only 56,232 showed up for the 27-17 loss.

The low turnout could be a product of disinterest, but the team is actually interesting this year — even though inconsistent. The win-one-lose-one formula suggested that a loss was looming in Week Six. Still, many expected the Jags to win the game, which would have moved them to 4-2 through six weeks of the season.

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1971 for me.

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Why is that hard to believe?

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At what age were  you then?

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