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(06-15-2018, 05:56 PM)Bullseye Wrote: (06-04-2018, 11:36 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Yep. I feel like I've been saying this until blue in face around here. Thanks for adding more facts to support it.
The Jags' choice of run formations forced the loaded box. When they added receivers to the formation, teams unloaded pretty commonly. Seemed like bunch and trips formations (predictably) were especially effective in backing teams out of the box.
In year two of a Hackett offense, I expect to see more usage of that. Lots of ways to be creative from that set - and Hackett has shown a fondness for running multiple permutations of a play while giving the defense the trap of a familiar look.
Irrespective of the reasons, Fournette played against more 8-9 in the box than the other rookie backs, and it impacted his productivity.
Part of the reason for my ringing that bell repeatedly is to note that the play-calling is what affected his productivity - because it was the play-calling that stacked the box.
It's an important distinction to me as I feel the staff needs to address this issue in more ways than just adding Norwell to the line.
I think he could be employed more wisely and those stacked box numbers could drop significantly.
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06-19-2018, 04:32 PM
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(06-19-2018, 12:44 PM)Bullseye Wrote: (06-19-2018, 11:01 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: I think it goes back to that old philosophy of "wanting to impose your will" in the run game, but they didn't have what they needed in the trenches to get that done as effectively as they wanted to in several contests.
Is it possible the team thought they had more pieces to get things done that way as opposed to throwing it all over the yard?
I submit that is what they thought, and it paid off well.
"He was asked how many passes he would like to see Bortles throw in a game. 'For me, I like to run the ball every play," Marrone told reporters. "None. Zero. I want to go back to the old way. I want to change the game'."
I think it's purely philosophical. I don't expect much change. If I were to submit anything, it would be that running out of 3 wide sets can be awfully effective too. I'd much rather see a nickelback try to tackle LF a dozen times a game than another linebacker.
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(06-19-2018, 12:44 PM)Bullseye Wrote: (06-19-2018, 11:01 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: I think it goes back to that old philosophy of "wanting to impose your will" in the run game, but they didn't have what they needed in the trenches to get that done as effectively as they wanted to in several contests.
Is it possible the team thought they had more pieces to get things done that way as opposed to throwing it all over the yard?
I submit that is what they thought, and it paid off well.
I'm not suggesting that running the ball often was the wrong approach.
I am saying that running the ball so frequently from a formation that screamed "I'M RUNNING THE BALL NOW, I DARE YOU TO STOP ME" was a big mistake.
They should have run out of more multiple looks that forced the defense to cover more than a single back.
The very few times they did run from a three wide set or repeatedly involved the tight end from a 21 set they were able to unstack the box. They did not do that enough.
Added speed at WR + a stated intent to involve Grant more + ASJ + Norwell --- all of these are hopefully things that help offset this issue, but a decrease in the number of telegraphed runs between the tackles could have an even greater effect IMO.
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A few months back, I posed this question to the board:
Quote:" I realize it's early, but in your estimation, is there a trio in the Colts draft class comparable in quality to our 2016 draft haul of Ramsey, Jack, and Ngakoue? "
It's still early, but they seem to have at last two really good players from this draft in Nelson and Leonard.
Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
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