This EricC85 guy has such a blind stupid hate for Caldwell that he actually believes Gene Smith's final year's team has far more talent than this current team....
Just let that sink in for a minute... He actually believes that... 

I have no doubts that he's a family member of some sort of Gene.

I don't really think Caldwell is worse than Gene, but it's not unfair to compare them. Gene's teams have only won a few less games than Caldwell's have in two full seasons more. And Gene wasn't allowed to spend an NFL record amount of FA $$$, and he also only got one top 5 pick...and he had to trade up for it...and that player was balling before he nuked himself.

Dave has been maybe a tiny bit better despite having a ton more ammo and two more seasons to build.

Well of course you believe that, because you've hated Caldwell ever since he took Fowler over your boy Beasley. You even went as far as making a new account because of it lol!!!

Gene Smith took over a team that went to the playoffs and completely destroyed it... Caldwell had to take over an expansion level roster and rebuild it... Which he did.

Gene Smith's best pick was Alualu... Just think about that for a minute.... That's a pick nobody even likes LOL.

All you have to do is look at the schools Gene was regularly drafting from to realize he was clueless and awful...

2009...
Virginia
Arizona
Temple
William & Mary
Arizona
Rice
Nebraska-Omaha
Liberty
Rutgers

2010...
California
Louisiana Tech
Central Arkansas
Murray State
Southern Illinois
James Madison

2011...
Missouri
Lehigh
Mount Union
Wyoming
Middle Tennessee State

2012...
Oklahoma State
Clemson
California - Lets not forget this was a Punter in the 3rd round...... Yes the THIRD round and a Punter...
Nevada
Florida State
Ashland

The idiot tried to build his team around a bunch of small school, no name players (for his majority as GM) who only sniffed the league because of Gene Smith being so terrible... He's a huge reason why this franchise got set back so far..

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I made a new account because there was some email error that wouldn't let me log in forever. No one would ever say I'd make a new account because I was trying to hide from anything.

I'm also not defending Gene Smith in the slightest. He was awful, obviously. Caldwell is also awful. He started off on the best foot possible with #EvenIfHeIsReleased, and then it was just a downhill rollercoaster since.

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I made a new account because there was some email error that wouldn't let me log in forever. No one would ever say I'd make a new account because I was trying to hide from anything.

I'm also not defending Gene Smith in the slightest. He was awful, obviously. Caldwell is also awful. He started off on the best foot possible with #EvenIfHeIsReleased, and then it was just a downhill rollercoaster since.

So the best foot possible in your eyes is him saying he wouldn't sign Tebow??? Really...

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Yep.

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This EricC85 guy has such a blind stupid hate for Caldwell that he actually believes Gene Smith's final year's team has far more talent than this current team....
Just let that sink in for a minute... He actually believes that... 

I have no doubts that he's a family member of some sort of Gene.

In his defense, the 2011 team is a mirage of this year; top 10 defense with a horrible offense. Basically Caldwell is repeating what Gene did that year.

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This EricC85 guy has such a blind stupid hate for Caldwell that he actually believes Gene Smith's final year's team has far more talent than this current team....
Just let that sink in for a minute... He actually believes that... 

I have no doubts that he's a family member of some sort of Gene.

In his defense, the 2011 team is a mirage of this year; top 10 defense with a horrible offense. Basically Caldwell is repeating what Gene did that year.

No, that was a middle of the pack Defense with a garbage Offense that wasn't shredded with injuries... It was just flat out garbage.

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Yep.

Hater/agenda from day 1... Like I said from the start LOL.

Don't tell me you're a huge Coughlin fan boy as well.

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We don't need to rebuild. That's something you do when your roster is full of players who are painfully overpaid, bereft of talent, well past their prime or some combination of the three. We've definitely got players in each of those categories, but not to the point of the team as a whole being crippled. What the Jaguars need to do is retool, and that's going to involve parting ways with some players and (hopefully) a lot of coaches. This team can lose Malik Jackson, Tashaun Gipson and Barry Church and still have a defense that's loaded with talent. Offensively, we're so badly screwed right now that it's tough to say how screwed we are in general. We need a QB, we need a playmaking receiver, we need a guard and a tackle for sure. Beyond that, we might need a running back and a tight end, or we might actually be ok at those positions once ASJ's healthy and Fournette's got his head screwed on straight.

This is not the sort of team that you burn to the ground. This is the sort of team that you build around. Maintain the defense and don't let the talent slip away there, and throw cash and draft picks at the offense to fix that side of the ball. Oh, and get a coach who knows how to coach.

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From the start I had a problem with the way Caldwell came in and "cleaned house" after 2011. Yes the team needed to be rebuilt but his theory of tear it down to foundation and rebuild was flawed from the start. The problem with blowing a roster up and accepting the next 2-3 years are strictly rebuilding years is two fold. For starters you build a culture of accepting a losing record, that was part of Gus Bradley's problem of just trusting the process. Secondly and even more importantly you have to hit 100% on drafts and free agent acquisitions, there is no margin for error. 

After 2011 we had a decent secondary, we had Mathis, Cox, Lowery, and Landry. We had enough of a stop gap at LT in Monroe and we had role players at skill positions in Sims-Walker, Shorts, and Thomas. We had Daryl Smith and Poz at LB but a major whole on the outside, we had needs for pass rushers, we needed to find our QB and we needed help on the o-line. Finally we had an over the hill MJD and we needed a RB to replace him. So in come Caldwell and we gut the secondary, the one area we could've waited to upgrade and cut our starting LT again another area we could've waited to upgrade all in the name of this total rebuild. 

I'm in the Caldwell has to go camp, but I hope the next guy up doesn't take the nuclear option Caldwell arrogantly did in 2011. We have some good to above average players worth keeping and some that are good enough to fill in until we find upgrades. 

We shouldn't accept ever again that we need to lose in order to win, that we need to gut a roster in order to rebuild it, it just doesn't work. No I'm not expecting miracles and no we won't go from where we are now to back to contending over night but we should see gradual improvement each year. 

In the end Caldwell's arrogance is why he is the worse GM we've had as a franchise to date.

I think this is really important to take into consideration. We absolutely dismantled that roster and for 3 seasons we drafted high, we took on any young player with potential, we tried projects (shoelaces), and we basically hoped some would turn good. And they did (Hurns) but most teams have some foundation on which to rebuild on. We started from nothing and it takes a few rotations of rosters and drafts and FA additions/loses for the talent to show through. 

We know have some players that are career signings and you can build around but we still have plenty of areas we could improve talent and depth wise. Another big problem, as you state, when your in such a rebuild mode, you can't really build an identity or a style as your basically in trial and error. I don't think since Khan has taken over that we have had a true identity which we build and coach around. Gus had a vague Seattle blueprint that never really happened and Marrone was handed and young roster and told to win with them. I know we are trying the run first and elite D but you have to wonder if it was a one season thing.

I look at teams like Seattle, they have such a huge turnover in roster numbers, trying to improve and they seem to look for players who can do one or two things well and how can we work that in. We seem a bit more rigid and the next guy has to play like the starter even if their skill set is different.

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Yeah.... sorry but this is no where close to the Gene Smith days.

Dude... that team was... it could be beat by college teams thats how bad it was. Gene Smith is not only the worst GM in Jaguars franchise history.... but NFL HISTORY!!!! He literally ran this team into the ground. With nothing to spare. Total train wreck.

Right now? All we need is QB and coaching staff it's pretty damn simple. Just DO IT.

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It's certainly not a rebuild on the level of post-Gene, but you could certainly say our offense is facing a rebuild. We will be looking at a new QB, plus the WR, TE, and O-line positions all need to be revamped. That's damn close to a rebuild. Plus a new philosophy to go along with it.

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It's certainly not a rebuild on the level of post-Gene, but you could certainly say our offense is facing a rebuild. We will be looking at a new QB, plus the WR, TE, and O-line positions all need to be revamped. That's damn close to a rebuild. Plus a new philosophy to go along with it.

That's fair. Roughly 5 new starters (including the QB) playing a new playbook could be called an offensive rebuild. 

The defense won't be rebuilt tough.

 And it's still anyone's guess where Coughlin and the Khans go with their GM and HC decisions in my opinion. While I could easily see them cleaning house, I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if it's only a change at both coordinator spots.

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From the start I had a problem with the way Caldwell came in and "cleaned house" after 2011. Yes the team needed to be rebuilt but his theory of tear it down to foundation and rebuild was flawed from the start. The problem with blowing a roster up and accepting the next 2-3 years are strictly rebuilding years is two fold. For starters you build a culture of accepting a losing record, that was part of Gus Bradley's problem of just trusting the process. Secondly and even more importantly you have to hit 100% on drafts and free agent acquisitions, there is no margin for error. 

After 2011 we had a decent secondary, we had Mathis, Cox, Lowery, and Landry. We had enough of a stop gap at LT in Monroe and we had role players at skill positions in Sims-Walker, Shorts, and Thomas. We had Daryl Smith and Poz at LB but a major whole on the outside, we had needs for pass rushers, we needed to find our QB and we needed help on the o-line. Finally we had an over the hill MJD and we needed a RB to replace him. So in come Caldwell and we gut the secondary, the one area we could've waited to upgrade and cut our starting LT again another area we could've waited to upgrade all in the name of this total rebuild. 

I'm in the Caldwell has to go camp, but I hope the next guy up doesn't take the nuclear option Caldwell arrogantly did in 2011. We have some good to above average players worth keeping and some that are good enough to fill in until we find upgrades. 

We shouldn't accept ever again that we need to lose in order to win, that we need to gut a roster in order to rebuild it, it just doesn't work. No I'm not expecting miracles and no we won't go from where we are now to back to contending over night but we should see gradual improvement each year. 

In the end Caldwell's arrogance is why he is the worse GM we've had as a franchise to date.

I think the idea was, that there was no way to get to the Super Bowl the way we were set up personnel-wise.   By the time we would be able to accumulate enough young talent, the older talent would be washed up.  So the plan was, to get as much cap room as possible, and maximize our draft position, and when we had accumulated enough young talent, spend the extra cap room on high priced free agents. 

And it worked.  We were one bad call from the Super Bowl last year.   

Then we got all injured this year, and our QB failed, and that's where we are now.  

But we won't have to do that kind of plan again at all.   We have a lot of young talent, and I think when we get all our players back from injury, and if we make a good choice for a QB, and beef up the TE and WR spots, we can make another run.  

We are WAAAAY ahead of where we were when they did the tear-down and started the rebuild.   We don't have to do that again.

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WR core doesn’t need a total over haul though. Westbrook and Chark are good. Lee comes back and he’s solid. Moncrief should have never been here so I’m glad he’ll be gone. Add another piece and I think it’s solid.

TE needs a young guy with ASJ.

OLine has 2 openings with Cann and Parnell leaving.

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It's certainly not a rebuild on the level of post-Gene, but you could certainly say our offense is facing a rebuild. We will be looking at a new QB, plus the WR, TE, and O-line positions all need to be revamped. That's damn close to a rebuild. Plus a new philosophy to go along with it.

That's fair. Roughly 5 new starters (including the QB) playing a new playbook could be called an offensive rebuild. 

The defense won't be rebuilt tough.

 And it's still anyone's guess where Coughlin and the Khans go with their GM and HC decisions in my opinion. While I could easily see them cleaning house, I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if it's only a change at both coordinator spots.

Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if they only bring in a new OC, they've shown a great deal of patience / reluctance to make change 

It's kind of a semantic issue with the whole 'rebuild' thing. There should be a stronger word than rebuild for what happened post-Gene.

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WR core doesn’t need a total over haul though. Westbrook and Chark are good. Lee comes back and he’s solid. Moncrief should have never been here so I’m glad he’ll be gone. Add another piece and I think it’s solid.

TE needs a young guy with ASJ.

OLine has 2 openings with Cann and Parnell leaving.

Yep. 

That's why I said 5 players earlier. 

QB, TE, WR, OG, OT  - throw in a playbook, a play-caller that knows how to use it,  and see what 2019 holds. 

Obviously they'll want to find some depth along that o-line as well. But those five are the real needs to get the offense on track.

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McCardell may need to go too. Thanks for everything youve done for our franchise but this has been the worst WR play ive seen. Fumbles in multiple weeks straight, drops everywhere, failure to play physical, running bad routes.

Jerry Sullivan was a miracle worker, mccardell is no where close to passable. Im sorrybut we need new blood at every coaching position, and especially for WR with how poorly theyve played

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Championship Formula:

1) Draft Trevor Lawrence!
2) Play good physical Defense! 
3) Keep 91% of the roster healthy!
4) ???
5) Blank #2
6) CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

Let's not overstate how bad Caldwell is by calling him the 'worst in franchise history'. Not when we had Gene Smith as our General Manager.

Caldwell came into a team replete of talent, and in desperate need of a QB. Let's take a look at the QB's available (that were taken in the first three rounds) his first two years here:

2013:
E.J. Manuel - Not worth a first round pick. Currently a free agent if we really wanted him for some reason.
Geno Smith - Failure, and backup for the Chargers
Mike Glennon - Failure, backup for the Cardinals
Even beyond round 3, no QB's of note from this draft.

2014:
Johnny Manziel - Drunk who's not in the league anymore. To call him a failure would be an insult to the other failures.
Teddy Bridgewater - Had some good years, but currently nothing more than a backup for the Saints. Was let go by his drafting team already.
Derek Carr - Had some good years, but is now on the worst team in the NFL
Jimmy Garapoolo - The only one I'd say Dave potentially missed on.

Bortles has been a failure too, but he's won more playoff games than every other QB drafted in those years combined. (Which isn't saying much). Those were some bad years for QB's, and the Jags were in a desperate situation. Jimmy Garapoloo would've been the best choice, but who knows what he'd have become with Gus "Sprinkles" Bradley here.

With a better QB last year, I think we could've been in the Super Bowl. That's not something you could've said about any of the teams Gene Smith built. You couldn't even say "With a good QB we'd be in the playoffs" under Gene Smith.

Is it time to cut ties with Caldwell? Probably. Let someone come in and find a QB for us. But he wasn't as bad as Gene Smith was. Not even close. He never traded a future 2nd round pick for a 3rd rounder. His picks were mostly what you'd expect with a few exceptions, and there were some good picks in there. You can't say that about Gene. Not even close.

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From the start I had a problem with the way Caldwell came in and "cleaned house" after 2011. Yes the team needed to be rebuilt but his theory of tear it down to foundation and rebuild was flawed from the start. The problem with blowing a roster up and accepting the next 2-3 years are strictly rebuilding years is two fold. For starters you build a culture of accepting a losing record, that was part of Gus Bradley's problem of just trusting the process. Secondly and even more importantly you have to hit 100% on drafts and free agent acquisitions, there is no margin for error. 

After 2011 we had a decent secondary, we had Mathis, Cox, Lowery, and Landry. We had enough of a stop gap at LT in Monroe and we had role players at skill positions in Sims-Walker, Shorts, and Thomas. We had Daryl Smith and Poz at LB but a major whole on the outside, we had needs for pass rushers, we needed to find our QB and we needed help on the o-line. Finally we had an over the hill MJD and we needed a RB to replace him. So in come Caldwell and we gut the secondary, the one area we could've waited to upgrade and cut our starting LT again another area we could've waited to upgrade all in the name of this total rebuild. 

I'm in the Caldwell has to go camp, but I hope the next guy up doesn't take the nuclear option Caldwell arrogantly did in 2011. We have some good to above average players worth keeping and some that are good enough to fill in until we find upgrades. 

We shouldn't accept ever again that we need to lose in order to win, that we need to gut a roster in order to rebuild it, it just doesn't work. No I'm not expecting miracles and no we won't go from where we are now to back to contending over night but we should see gradual improvement each year. 

In the end Caldwell's arrogance is why he is the worse GM we've had as a franchise to date.

Between Shack Harris, Gene Smith, and Dave Caldwell we've had 15 years of incompetence in the front office.  

Here's to hoping for the best again this offseason.

Shack Harris wasn't as bad as the fans made him out to be. No Gene Smith is BT FAR the WORST GM in football history.

Football history I tell you.



Once I saw that ESPN couldn't find tape on the Alualu pick because it was so far left, I was like, yup, we're doomed. Mel Kiper was scrambling to find his notes on that guy cause he was expected to be drafts rounds and rounds later.

Everybody had the Nick Young face.

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If you think I offended you, don't worry, I meant to. #facts 
  
#iamlegend

When you push all your chips to the center of the table and believe you are a few pass rushers away from a championship, you hand cuff your GM. Shack Harris wasn't too bad but they took on some hella projects that make Blake seem like a tame choice.

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Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

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