And you keep the HC these guys quit on!!!!!

This. All the this. This times infinity plus two.

Doug Moron lost the respect of this team weeks ago, and this is just making it abundantly clear. I wouldn't be surprised if there's more to this than the cameras showed, like Fournette refusing to dress or Yeldon refusing to take the field. Even if there isn't, again, why are we keeping a coach who commands so much respect that two players openly insult him on national TV by sitting around doing nothing? If this were a Coughlin-coached team, those two would have had to scoop their man-parts off the field as they ran for the locker room.

Their lack of character and caring are on them. They’re grown men. He was right to call them out. I already was disappointed in how Fournette has comported himself this year. Time to cut bait on his fragile, immature self. But I had hoped not to see that from Yeldon.

Marrone is fine. We just need some changes on the staff.


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Fix the O-Line!

Eh, I think running to the podium to draft Leftwich when we could have sat still and taken Terrell Suggs was a bad move. And then followed it up a year later taking Reggie Williams when Big Ben went a pick or two later.  Set us back a decade.

We are in the same situation now. We will reach on a QB next year and be done for the next 10 years because of it.

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A True Fan ladies and gentlemen:

Ramsey for Grier straight up

Hopefully the Jags can trade Fournette for a 3rd, and draft Josh Jacobs or Bryce Love

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Do you know for sure?

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Ok tough guy.....

One of the two people they announced is staying drafted the guy. It was horrible pick even at the time. There is zero accountability and it shows.

So the only time accountability happens is when someone gets fired?


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Is LF a viable candidate for the worst draft pick in franchise history?

Even if LF never does anything more for the Jags, he's still ahead of Derrick Harvey just from last season. Luke Joeckel was also less productive, as was Justin Blackmon.

If you are basing it on who we could have taken instead, then Matt Jones over Aaron Rodgers was just as bad. And there's no guarantee that Mahomes or Rodgers (or Brady if you want to really use hindsight) would have flourished under the Jags coaching staff.

But I agree that drafting a RB high in the first round in the current NFL was a stupid idea.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

One of the two people they announced is staying drafted the guy. It was horrible pick even at the time. There is zero accountability and it shows.

So the only time accountability happens is when someone gets fired?


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No, it also happens when contracts are extended after a successful season.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

One of the two people they announced is staying drafted the guy. It was horrible pick even at the time. There is zero accountability and it shows.

So the only time accountability happens is when someone gets fired?


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In the business world, yes.

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I think any doubt that Fournette might be back is over. They'll see what they can get in a trade.  I assume they can get something, Hopefully they can get a 5th round pick back.

Fixed it for ya.

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

One thong about this season was there were a lot of me first players....all over the roster...

That is problematic most successful teams are always about the team first...Like I said let the offseason begin.

Nailed it!  Too many "Me 1st" attitudes.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

One thong about this season was there were a lot of me first players....all over the roster...

That is problematic most successful teams are always about the team first...Like I said let the offseason begin.

Nailed it!  Too many "Me 1st" attitudes.

I mean you can always go out and get a bunch of B personality choir boys. I’m sure that strategy has worked....

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Eh, I think running to the podium to draft Leftwich when we could have sat still and taken Terrell Suggs was a bad move. And then followed it up a year later taking Reggie Williams when Big Ben went a pick or two later.  Set us back a decade.

We are in the same situation now. We will reach on a QB next year and be done for the next 10 years because of it.

We should be in good shape to get one of the two top qbs in the draft. I wouldn’t worry about reaching this time.


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In reality, I can't see them trading LF this year. I think TC may be attempting to light a fire. He is cheap and if he gets in shape with our OL back in tack and a new QB, he could be above average.

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It's rare you see a player blasted like that by the front office.

Fournette is officially in TCs dog house and may well find himself in another teams medical room all of next year

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So the only time accountability happens is when someone gets fired?


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In the business world, yes.

I disagree. If a person were fired every time they failed, there would be no seasoned executives. Compensation, stricter oversight, face to face confrontation, narrower job description. There are many ways accountability happens in the real world. Not just firing.


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Fix the O-Line!

In the business world, yes.

I disagree.  If a person were fired every time they failed, there would be no seasoned executives.  Compensation, stricter oversight, face to face confrontation, narrower job description. There are many ways accountability happens in the real world.  Not just firing.


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Ita not just one failure though.

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It's rare you see a player blasted like that by the front office.

Fournette is officially in TCs dog house and may well find himself in another teams medical room all of next year

I doubt it nobody is giving us a high pick for a beat up running back

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In reality, I can't see them trading LF this year. I think TC may be attempting to light a fire. He is cheap and if he gets in shape with our OL back in tack and a new QB, he could be above average.

It's rare you see a player blasted like that by the front office.

Fournette is officially in TCs dog house and may well find himself in another teams medical room all of next year

I hope the intensity lasts through the whole offseason. It can't be just by the coaches. The leaders need to step up and fix the communication issues, penalties, too much talking, etc. No clue if there are any leaders on offense though, when Bortles and LF are your captains you have a lot of issues.

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Is LF a viable candidate for the worst draft pick in franchise history?

No. Gabbert is more or less untouchable in that area right now. We gave up a second round pick to jump up for him. Derrick Harvey has to be in that conversation as well. Soward gets a pass because he was picked at the bottom of round one instead of in the top ten.

*Edit: And Blackmon. I wouldn't call him the worst because he was a dominant receiver...for the year or so that he was able to stay clean.

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Well, Tom.. Do something about it..

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It's rare you see a player blasted like that by the front office.

Fournette is officially in TCs dog house and may well find himself in another teams medical room all of next year

I doubt it nobody is giving us a high pick for a beat up running back

Who said we'd get a high pick back

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