I thought a Leo is a hybrid DE/OLB.

 

Forget about Clowney. We need to get a quarterback at #3, not two pass rushers.

The Leo is a defensive end lining up wide on the weak side of the offense. He can stand up but he's not an OLB

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Lovin what I saw from him today. Will have to check his other games as far as LEO goes, it's been between Mack or Barr. Ford is now in the discussion and may be able to leapfrog them. If Teddy isn't there at 3, we need to get our LEO.

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As of today, I am not seeing ANY mocks that have Ford going in the first round. That could change in the next few days or after the combine. If he doesn't move, we might be able to trade down a bit and still get Mack plus get Ford in the top of the 2nd. Maybe get Garoppolo or Mett in the 3rd. Think maybe we could get a pass rush on Luck then.

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As of today, I am not seeing ANY mocks that have Ford going in the first round. That could change in the next few days or after the combine. If he doesn't move, we might be able to trade down a bit and still get Mack plus get Ford in the top of the 2nd. Maybe get Garoppolo or Mett in the 3rd. Think maybe we could get a pass rush on Luck then.

 

Ford if he makes it to the first round will not go any higher than the late 1st. I heard some people from the Senior Bowl thread speculating that he might go top 10 overall and thats not happening. 

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Ford if he makes it to the first round will not go any higher than the late 1st. I heard some people from the Senior Bowl thread speculating that he might go top 10 overall and thats not happening.

Maybe so.....but he was flying below the radar till this week. We'll see what happens now.

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Ford if he makes it to the first round will not go any higher than the late 1st. I heard some people from the Senior Bowl thread speculating that he might go top 10 overall and thats not happening.

That's why I keep on bring up Bruce Irvin. As a prospect he's very similar to Ford including a late rise in draft stock. The draftnicks were laughing when Seattle took him at 15 thinking he was a reach. And they were obviously wrong.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Were they obviously wrong though?

Everyone claims Bruce Irvin has been a great player for Seattle - but I think the team's success is being linked to him being great, when in reality he hasn't done squat this year.

 

He had a good rookie year, but has been disappointing this year.  It's been kept quiet however because it's a non-story as Seattle continues winning.

 

I think drafting Bruce Irvin again (this year) with the same results that he's given his team would be a mistake.  

 

I mean, he's been pretty good overall... but the jury is still out on him.  If he has another year like 2013 next year, I think many people will start scratching their heads about him.

 

Also, Bruce Irvin is way more athletic than Ford.  Ford is a good athlete, but Irvin was an absolute freak.  He ran the 40 in 4.41 seconds at 245 lbs.... which is basically the reason he jumped up to #15 overall.  

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The only reason people didnt have Irvin going first round is because of character concerns,  a troubled past, and he got arrested.  He went right about where he should have if the team over looked those and Seattle did.   He didnt just shoot up boards, if anything he fell down draft boards.

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I think Ford is now the 4th DE/OLB prospect. 

 

Clowney

Mack

Barr

Ford  

Ealy

 

Everyone else 

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This is my draft goal. Trade back to Oakland, get their 2nd rounder lol (I know this probably won't happen, but I can hope haha). Pick Sammy Watkins. Take Dee Ford with Oakland 2nd rounder, then take Tre Mason with our 2nd rounder. Take a Guard or Center with 3rd and take A. Murray with 4th and Goppolopigus lol with other 4th or 5th (doubt he's there). Dee Ford was nasty the whole day. Got pushed out a few times, but his jump off the line is sick!!

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Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!

I think Ford is now the 4th DE/OLB prospect. 

 

Clowney

Mack

Barr

Ford  

Ealy

 

Everyone else 

 

I remember reading another post that said Clowney is strictly a 4-3 guy and would be a terrible Leo.

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All of a sudden Dee Ford has worked his way up to 18th overall prospect on CBS.  I was just on there the other day and he was 58th

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prosp...s/2014/all

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I remember reading another post that said Clowney is strictly a 4-3 guy and would be a terrible Leo.

 

Leo is part of a 4-3. What reasoning did the poster give as to why he'd be a terrible LEO? Curious to know. From what I've been reading and how I see him play, freakishly quick, strong, and athletic, he'd fit in at any DE spot, IMO.

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Were they obviously wrong though?

Everyone claims Bruce Irvin has been a great player for Seattle - but I think the team's success is being linked to him being great, when in reality he hasn't done squat this year.


He had a good rookie year, but has been disappointing this year. It's been kept quiet however because it's a non-story as Seattle continues winning.


I think drafting Bruce Irvin again (this year) with the same results that he's given his team would be a mistake.


I mean, he's been pretty good overall... but the jury is still out on him. If he has another year like 2013 next year, I think many people will start scratching their heads about him.


Also, Bruce Irvin is way more athletic than Ford. Ford is a good athlete, but Irvin was an absolute freak. He ran the 40 in 4.41 seconds at 245 lbs.... which is basically the reason he jumped up to #15 overall.

He did have a down year but don't overlook the fact that he was popped with a suspension which I'm sure played a role in that.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Leo is part of a 4-3. What reasoning did the poster give as to why he'd be a terrible LEO? Curious to know. From what I've been reading and how I see him play, freakishly quick, strong, and athletic, he'd fit in at any DE spot, IMO.

 

I guess time will tell where he fits best in a 4-3 defense. But if at all possible, I would rather get a quarterback at #3 and Dee Ford at #39.

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All of a sudden Dee Ford has worked his way up to 18th overall prospect on CBS. I was just on there the other day and he was 58th

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/all'>http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/all</a>

CBS is usually late in their projections and sometimes those rankings leave you scratching your head.


From the 2012 draft they had Irvin listed as the 52nd best overall prospect.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1779111/bruce-irvin'>http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1779111/bruce-irvin</a>

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

I guess time will tell where he fits best in a 4-3 defense. But if at all possible, I would rather get a quarterback at #3 and Dee Ford at #39.

I dont think Ford will be there at 39.  You will have to trade up.

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CBS is usually late in their projections and sometimes those rankings leave you scratching your head.


From the 2012 draft they had Irvin listed as the 52nd best overall prospect.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1779111/bruce-irvin'>http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1779111/bruce-irvin</a>

Yeah I have noticed they are late lots of times

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I remember reading another post that said Clowney is strictly a 4-3 guy and would be a terrible Leo.

He doesn't have to play LEO on every down to be effective. Clowney is good enough that you could line him up anywhere and he will be disruptive. Moving him around would be in the team's best interest anyway to take advantage of mismatches.


Alfie's opinion:

He's not a traditional LEO in the Jaguars defensive front, but he can play all over the line. Look to how the Seattle Seahawks use Michael Bennett, inside and out, and that's how the Jaguars could utilize Clowney as an every down player.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/1/23/5337816/jadeveon-clowney-nfl-draft-profile-2014'>http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/1/23/5337816/jadeveon-clowney-nfl-draft-profile-2014</a>

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

I thought a Leo is a hybrid DE/OLB.

 

Forget about Clowney. We need to get a quarterback at #3, not two pass rushers.

no we don't.

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