This team has had a supposed identity the last few years which was a good running game with a strong defense. Now what? Just about every single player on the 2017 defense is gone. Our run game was awful last year.

So what direction do you think this team is headed for in terms of the type of team they want to be? Spread it out and let Minshew sling it for 2020? Spend draft picks and FA money to get back to having a top 5 defense?

Personally, I hope they spend a lot of draft capital on offense. On the Oline and playmakers. Take a tackle at #9, then Ruggs at 20. 

I just don't know where this team is headed (other than picking top 5 again most likely) and I'm curious to the identity you hope they achieve.

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The run defense was horrific last year, and will be addressed early. No team can get pummeled repeatedly in the run game and expect to win. I think they will use significant draft and free agency resources to retool the defense as a priority.

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I don't think we'll know until the morning after the draft.

I don't think they'll know until the morning after the draft.

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Jags Identity - an empty stadium

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I don’t like identities. Just go out there and play and whatever happens happens. Identities just set expectations that disappoint me. Last season how many 200+ run games against us? Whatever.

Go sling the ball Shew!

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Lot J at 12:45 pm versus Divisional Rival the Tennessee Titans

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Jags Identity - an empty stadium

Lot J  at 12:45 pm versus Divisional Rival the Tennessee Titans

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This team has been in a midlife crisis for nearly 10 years. We have no identity. We used to be the "Steelers of the South" and that gimmick worked for awhile. Then we tried to be the "Seahawks of the South" and that was quickly exposed. This team lacks leadership thanks to sub par ownership. Nobody gives a [BLEEP] about the "fan experience" in that stadium.

When your teams getting curb stomped to the tune of 20+ point blow outs you can take that "fan experience" and shove it sideways up your bumper making [BLEEP] and may it sink you in those goofy [BLEEP] pools you built.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

So, devil's advocate here, and something I've considered the past couple days as we jettison defensive players.

It's not like this defense was carrying us any more. If they like what they have in Minshew and believe Gruden can create a strong offense...why not just dump it all on the offense and try to win that way? Lots of teams build this way...including the Super Bowl champs. You can get away with a good enough defense these days. You just need a couple key plays here and there.

I'm not saying Minshew is Mahomes by any stretch. It was just something I had begun to consider as a philosophy.

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I think the identity (on the actual football field) will be largely the same defensively, and the offense will still lean on the run but to a lesser degree. Overall - it's going to be about whether this coaching staff can be competitive after the following "facelift." 

The run defense really shouldn't be that hard to fix if they find an adequate replacement for Dareus and do the right thing by moving Myles Jack positionally.
There are gettable free agent inside linebackers out there that should be able to play smarter more disciplined football against the run at the mike position.  Options in the draft as well, though they may require some seasoning.
NT/DT has two premier prospects in the draft and a few upper-mid-tier guys and free agents are available as well.

The secondary is fixable by taking an early pick at corner and adding a mid-tier FA to compete with Herndon.
(Folks are piling on Herndon for some reason right now, but he had 3 or 4 very good games last year,  struggled in a few others, and was solid in the remainder.  Personally, I think he'll make a great nickel when Hayden's contract is up.)
An upgrade at FS would be great, just not sure about any mid round prospects that could step in right away.
May have to wait to fix this spot unless they hit on a mid-late round guy or a cheap FA. 

Offensively - I'd love to see a tackle drafted, but they may give Cam one more year to audition more removed from injury. At the very least, they must add interior competition for RG at the very least and upgrade depth. 
Another TE into the mix is called for given injury and the unproven status of Oliver.
Should be able to get a steal at WR in this draft in the mid rounds. 
Mix in a CoP RB and let Gruden sort it out.

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So, devil's advocate here, and something I've considered the past couple days as we jettison defensive players.

It's not like this defense was carrying us any more.  If they like what they have in Minshew and believe Gruden can create a strong offense...why not just dump it all on the offense and try to win that way?  Lots of teams build this way...including the Super Bowl champs.  You can get away with a good enough defense these days.  You just need a couple key plays here and there.

I'm not saying Minshew is Mahomes by any stretch.  It was just something I had begun to consider as a philosophy.

That's self preservation kicking in. I had the same thoughts as well yesterday. Problem is that I can't see it happening with the same lame duck general manager and head coach in place. 

Somehow they'll dick this up. They'll probably take Kinlaw at 9th overall instead of one of the top three OT's on the board or possibly the highest rated WR on the board. They'll probably take that Florida CB at 20th overall and pass up on yet another solid offensive player. 

Depends on what happens with Ngakoue though. And then you have to factor in how fast and how well this offense can pick-up the speed and mindset of Gruden's approach and play calling. 

And do you really trust long term success with this ho hum offensive line? Idk.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

My hope is that they could potentially trade Ngakoue out of here to Miami. This would be the ideal draft for me personally with all of the holes they've dug up on this roster now.

I think this is realistic with the exception of maybe Queen not being there at 42nd and Kmet not being there at 70th overall. In that case. You could maybe go for Malik Harrison at ILB from Ohio St. instead at 42nd and maybe take Harrison Bryant or Adam Trautman at TE there with the 70th pick.

9th: Derrick Brown - DL3T - Auburn
20th: Justin Jefferson - WR - LSU
26th (From Ngakoue Trade to Miami): Austin Jackson - OT - USC
42nd: Patrick Queen - ILB - LSU
70th (From Ngakoue Trade to Miami): Cole Kmet - TE - Notre Dame
73rd: Jaylon Johnson - CB - Utah
116th: Alex Highsmith - DE - Charlotte
166th: Jon Runyan - OG - Michigan
189th: Joshua Kelley - RB - UCLA
206th: Julian Blackmon - S - Utah
224th: Khalil Davis - DL1T - Nebraska

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I think the identity (on the actual football field) will be largely the same defensively, and the offense will still lean on the run but to a lesser degree. Overall - it's going to be about whether this coaching staff can be competitive after the following "facelift." 

The run defense really shouldn't be that hard to fix if they find an adequate replacement for Dareus and do the right thing by moving Myles Jack positionally.
There are gettable free agent inside linebackers out there that should be able to play smarter more disciplined football against the run at the mike position.  Options in the draft as well, though they may require some seasoning.
NT/DT has two premier prospects in the draft and a few upper-mid-tier guys and free agents are available as well.

The secondary is fixable by taking an early pick at corner and adding a mid-tier FA to compete with Herndon.
(Folks are piling on Herndon for some reason right now, but he had 3 or 4 very good games last year,  struggled in a few others, and was solid in the remainder.  Personally, I think he'll make a great nickel when Hayden's contract is up.)
An upgrade at FS would be great, just not sure about any mid round prospects that could step in right away.
May have to wait to fix this spot unless they hit on a mid-late round guy or a cheap FA. 

Offensively - I'd love to see a tackle drafted, but they may give Cam one more year to audition more removed from injury. At the very least, they must add interior competition for RG at the very least and upgrade depth. 
Another TE into the mix is called for given injury and the unproven status of Oliver.
Should be able to get a steal at WR in this draft in the mid rounds. 
Mix in a CoP RB and let Gruden sort it out.

This is my fear. That strategy isn't working. They need something new in order to save their jobs and my fear is that they just stick to what they know.

Air it out. Sling the rock to Chark, Westbrook, Ruggs, Ebron, Oliver, Fournette and company. I want to win but if we are going to lose (which is likely) how about losing 31-28.

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I think the identity (on the actual football field) will be largely the same defensively, and the offense will still lean on the run but to a lesser degree. Overall - it's going to be about whether this coaching staff can be competitive after the following "facelift." 

The run defense really shouldn't be that hard to fix if they find an adequate replacement for Dareus and do the right thing by moving Myles Jack positionally.
There are gettable free agent inside linebackers out there that should be able to play smarter more disciplined football against the run at the mike position.  Options in the draft as well, though they may require some seasoning.
NT/DT has two premier prospects in the draft and a few upper-mid-tier guys and free agents are available as well.

The secondary is fixable by taking an early pick at corner and adding a mid-tier FA to compete with Herndon.
(Folks are piling on Herndon for some reason right now, but he had 3 or 4 very good games last year,  struggled in a few others, and was solid in the remainder.  Personally, I think he'll make a great nickel when Hayden's contract is up.)
An upgrade at FS would be great, just not sure about any mid round prospects that could step in right away.
May have to wait to fix this spot unless they hit on a mid-late round guy or a cheap FA. 

Offensively - I'd love to see a tackle drafted, but they may give Cam one more year to audition more removed from injury. At the very least, they must add interior competition for RG at the very least and upgrade depth. 
Another TE into the mix is called for given injury and the unproven status of Oliver.
Should be able to get a steal at WR in this draft in the mid rounds. 
Mix in a CoP RB and let Gruden sort it out.

This is my fear. That strategy isn't working. They need something new in order to save their jobs and my fear is that they just stick to what they know.

Air it out. Sling the rock to Chark, Westbrook, Ruggs, Ebron, Oliver, Fournette and company. I want to win but if we are going to lose (which is likely) how about losing 31-28.

My hypothesis is based upon the line not giving the QB enough time to do what you're suggesting. If it is able to buy time, then I'd wager Gruden is more aggressive through the air than my initial suggestion.

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I think the identity (on the actual football field) will be largely the same defensively, and the offense will still lean on the run but to a lesser degree. Overall - it's going to be about whether this coaching staff can be competitive after the following "facelift." 

The run defense really shouldn't be that hard to fix if they find an adequate replacement for Dareus and do the right thing by moving Myles Jack positionally.
There are gettable free agent inside linebackers out there that should be able to play smarter more disciplined football against the run at the mike position.  Options in the draft as well, though they may require some seasoning.
NT/DT has two premier prospects in the draft and a few upper-mid-tier guys and free agents are available as well.

The secondary is fixable by taking an early pick at corner and adding a mid-tier FA to compete with Herndon.
(Folks are piling on Herndon for some reason right now, but he had 3 or 4 very good games last year,  struggled in a few others, and was solid in the remainder.  Personally, I think he'll make a great nickel when Hayden's contract is up.)
An upgrade at FS would be great, just not sure about any mid round prospects that could step in right away.
May have to wait to fix this spot unless they hit on a mid-late round guy or a cheap FA. 

Offensively - I'd love to see a tackle drafted, but they may give Cam one more year to audition more removed from injury. At the very least, they must add interior competition for RG at the very least and upgrade depth. 
Another TE into the mix is called for given injury and the unproven status of Oliver.
Should be able to get a steal at WR in this draft in the mid rounds. 
Mix in a CoP RB and let Gruden sort it out.

This is my fear. That strategy isn't working. They need something new in order to save their jobs and my fear is that they just stick to what they know.

Air it out. Sling the rock to Chark, Westbrook, Ruggs, Ebron, Oliver, Fournette and company. I want to win but if we are going to lose (which is likely) how about losing 31-28.

Agreed. We're so accustomed to losing, at least allow us to lose in an exciting fashion.

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Your 2020 Jacksonville Jaguars

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

This is my fear. That strategy isn't working. They need something new in order to save their jobs and my fear is that they just stick to what they know.

Air it out. Sling the rock to Chark, Westbrook, Ruggs, Ebron, Oliver, Fournette and company. I want to win but if we are going to lose (which is likely) how about losing 31-28.

Agreed. We're so accustomed to losing, at least allow us to lose in an exciting fashion.

You mean the Jalen Ramsey saga wasn't exciting enough for you?

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Your 2020 Jacksonville Jaguars

Don't forget the digestive biscuits. 

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Your 2020 Jacksonville Jaguars

Don't forget the digestive biscuits. 

New team uni's

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

So, devil's advocate here, and something I've considered the past couple days as we jettison defensive players.

It's not like this defense was carrying us any more.  If they like what they have in Minshew and believe Gruden can create a strong offense...why not just dump it all on the offense and try to win that way?  Lots of teams build this way..

So, we are modeling our team after the National Arena League Champs, the Jacksonville Sharks.   At this point, I'm like - Hell, Why Not !!!

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Don't forget the digestive biscuits. 

New team uni's

I bet that gentleman could actually make a tackle though. 

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."