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2020 Presidental Election


No big deal. It was only 169,000 votes in Virginia that disappeared. Nothing sketchy about that. Nah, not at all.

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(11-09-2020, 10:46 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-09-2020, 10:34 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: So you honestly don't think it is odd that voting machines have been called into question and said voting machines were used in very specific states? Beyond a shadow of a doubt you believe this election has not been breeched? 

My issue isn't so much with Trump losing but with Biden winning. As much as I do not like Trump, much to my husband's chagrin, I have a serious problem with Biden/Harris and I don't trust liberal leftists at all. They're infiltrating the D party and are behind the hate and discontent coming from the left. Their identity politics are ruining the D party and causing division this country hasn't seen since the late 60s. I don't put it past them to lie, cheat and steal to get what they want, to include an election.

When the evidence, if there is any, is presented in various courts, and the judges rule, I hope you and other Trump supporters will accept whatever comes from that.  I will.  No matter which way it goes.   

Right now, I don't see any evidence of a stolen election.  All I see is wild allegations from people I don't trust.

You ask, "Beyond a shadow of a doubt you believe this election has not been breeched?"  I don't think that way.  I can't say beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm not a space alien and just don't realize it.  But have to start with the assumption that this is an honest and fair election, because I believe in this country.  It's just basic patriotism.  From that point, the only thing that can persuade me that the election might have been stolen is actual evidence, and I haven't seen any.

First of all, I'm not a Trump supporter. Of the two viable options I couldn't let my vote go Libertarian and "help" Biden get into office as much as it pained me. Voting for Trump and being a supporter is not the same. Sometimes you have toilet paper, sometimes you wipe with what you have. 

If legitimate investigations/court proceedings show there was nothing shady going on without a shadow of a doubt I'll accept the verdict, no problem. If it's all a dog and pony show as this whole friggin' year has been and there is still measurable doubt, then I will never, ever trust our voting process again. If just Fox or some other conservative news source were the only ones kvetching about this I could see it as a "conspiracy" but it's coming from multiple states and counties. 

If nothing else comes of this I hope reform on federal elections does. State elections can do what they want because that's their right, but when we're voting for POTUS, Senate and House there needs to be a one size fits all solution. Period. There needs to be one ballot and one ballot counter machine. They need to be filled out the same exact way with ballpoint pens or whatever works best. And absolutely NO "special interest groups" should have any ties to any software, machines, ballot paper, etc. There has to be a better way than this cluster frack of stupidity. I felt the same since every election since 2000.
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(11-09-2020, 11:46 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(11-09-2020, 10:54 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: My gut instinct, as an American patriot, who believes in this country, tells me that in the United States elections are not stolen.  If evidence is presented in court, examined by both sides, and a judge rules one way or the other, I will accept that.  But I would not go around alleging any presidential election was stolen just to make myself feel better, like I believe a lot of you might be doing now.  Because that undermines our democracy.  That undermines people's belief in the fairness of our elections.

No one questions the accuracy of the results with Obama when he whooped Romney and McCain’s [BLEEP]. And, if I’m court, it’s proven all ballots followed state guidelines then I won’t care. I don’t like Biden, or his socialist VP, but a winner’s a winner. 

Right now, however, there are too many legitimate questions that need answers. As for undermining the election process, that started in 2016. The US elections are not above cheating either, so I think it’s careless to defend the process just because it’s American.

100% correct. I used to believe that just because we're American we can't get stuff too wrong, but of we do we can fix it. LOL. In the last 5-10 years I have learned that is simply not true. Whether it's age or experience or just seeing how much has changed in the country in general over the last 20 years, I have learned that while we are the best country in the world to be born and raised in, we have serious problems that are being swept under the rug on the regular. 

To say that nothing can be corrupted is to believe in sunshine and rainbows and nothing bad ever happens in the world. It's like saying the democrat and republican parties have stayed exactly the same since any of us were born. We all know that is not true.
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There's plenty of evidence to suggest fraud. Very little at this point to convict or overturn the election. I think Trump's team has a virtually impossible task of overturning this election without definitive proof. I think people are getting their hopes up a bit too soon. That said, it's reckless for the media to proclaim Biden President when there are court battle going on. This wouldn't happen the other way. It's getting old.
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The media giving Biden a platform as acting POTUS is kind of dirty. This county is in serious trouble if the media continues down this route.
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(11-09-2020, 01:10 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: There's plenty of evidence to suggest fraud. Very little at this point to convict or overturn the election. I think Trump's team has a virtually impossible task of overturning this election without definitive proof. I think people are getting their hopes up a bit too soon. That said, it's reckless for the media to proclaim Biden President when there are court battle going on. This wouldn't happen the other way. It's getting old.

Trump’s best bet is to contest the legitimacy of the voters’ registration status. States like Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania may have a significant portion of voters that simply didn’t register properly. That’s what happened to Stacey Abrams in 2018, which is funny because she still hasn’t conceded her loss to Kemp.
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(11-09-2020, 01:41 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(11-09-2020, 01:10 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: There's plenty of evidence to suggest fraud. Very little at this point to convict or overturn the election. I think Trump's team has a virtually impossible task of overturning this election without definitive proof. I think people are getting their hopes up a bit too soon. That said, it's reckless for the media to proclaim Biden President when there are court battle going on. This wouldn't happen the other way. It's getting old.

Trump’s best bet is to contest the legitimacy of the voters’ registration status. States like Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania may have a significant portion of voters that simply didn’t register properly. That’s what happened to Stacey Abrams in 2018, which is funny because she still hasn’t conceded her loss to Kemp.

There are also people who don't still live there but they haven't been removed.

I'm still active in Futon county. I haven't lived there in years, but I'm still listed as active. I assume I would have an address flag, but who knows. It doesn't show that someone voted for me, but who knows.
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(11-09-2020, 09:54 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-09-2020, 09:29 AM)Jagwired Wrote: From now until the end of time creepy joe will be known as the man who was an illegitimately appointed president of this country. Placed into office by corrupt liberal strongholds.  

Webster should amend the dictionary and replace the word cheater with creepy joe. As in " They had that victory wrapped up until they were creepied joed out of it ".

No one with an ounce of common sense can possibly believe the results from those liberal cities are on the up and up.

I know you guys are grieving the loss of your orange idol, and I sympathize, a little.  But as of now, there is simply no evidence of voter fraud, certainly not enough to swing the election, and if there ever is evidence of voter fraud, it will be presented in court.


Shhh!  Facts don't matter to Trumplicans like that.  Allow the man his conspiracy theory so that he can sleep better at night.
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Mark Esper, You're Firedddddd!
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(11-09-2020, 01:51 PM)p_rushing Wrote:
(11-09-2020, 01:41 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Trump’s best bet is to contest the legitimacy of the voters’ registration status. States like Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania may have a significant portion of voters that simply didn’t register properly. That’s what happened to Stacey Abrams in 2018, which is funny because she still hasn’t conceded her loss to Kemp.

There are also people who don't still live there but they haven't been removed.

I'm still active in Futon county. I haven't lived there in years, but I'm still listed as active. I assume I would have an address flag, but who knows. It doesn't show that someone voted for me, but who knows.

I wonder what the numbers from Trundle County and Sleepersofa County look like.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
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(11-09-2020, 01:51 PM)p_rushing Wrote:
(11-09-2020, 01:41 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Trump’s best bet is to contest the legitimacy of the voters’ registration status. States like Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania may have a significant portion of voters that simply didn’t register properly. That’s what happened to Stacey Abrams in 2018, which is funny because she still hasn’t conceded her loss to Kemp.

There are also people who don't still live there but they haven't been removed.

I'm still active in Futon county. I haven't lived there in years, but I'm still listed as active. I assume I would have an address flag, but who knows. It doesn't show that someone voted for me, but who knows.

A lot of those voters who live outside the district or state they are registered in are military.  They are allowed to do that.
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Trump continues to close the gap in Arizona. Biden lead now under 17K.
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only 38,000 ballots left in Arizona. If you exclude the 5,000 that will end up in the shredder, there is no way Trump gains 17K on 33k ballots. The margin would need to be 25k to 8k or roughly 75%. If he does come close, i'm sure we can find some dead people's ballots to squeak out a narrow margin.
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(11-09-2020, 04:05 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Trump continues to close the gap in Arizona. Biden lead now under 17K.


Where are these votes coming from? Fraud!!
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Hard to believe the gap between Bush and Gore was 537 and even then, the recount wasn't enough to give Gore the win.
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(11-09-2020, 05:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: Hard to believe the gap between Bush and Gore was 537 and even then, the recount wasn't enough to give Gore the win.

Recounts rarely turn up more than a hundred or so votes.  It's very doubtful that any of the pending recounts will overturn a state that went for Biden.
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Here comes another failed case


https://twitter.com/carriesheffield/stat...39233?s=19
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Time to move on. Dont get your hopes up and relax and face the facts. Everything will be ok.
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(This post was last modified: 11-09-2020, 07:37 PM by TrivialPursuit.)

I'm fully ready to kill anyone and everyone I need to to ensure a fair election result. Whoever that may be. As long as it's fair. Even during 2000 it wasn't as widely disputed as now. Because no one wants a child molester and someone who raised a crackhead as President. But whatever the SCOTUS decides I will accept... and if isn't "allowed" to go that far.......?

First targets.. big tech.
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Sounds like we have some nervous people in here.
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