You people should have known better. Did you really think Trump would just lay down and let these cheaters get away with this? Buckle up.

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If you pay attention, Trump isn't the one dividing our country.

Yeah a president saying there's good people on both sides of a racist hate march is a real step in the right direction towards unity.

You do realize those words are taken out of context, right? It’s easily verifiable with the simplest internet search.

I know, it’s irrelevant now, but you’re not doing yourself any credibility favors by repeating an obvious lie.

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What is it with liberals that you must view everything through a race, gender or sexual orientation lens?  Kamalia Harris could be Carl Harris, white and 58 and if “he” had the same political leanings conservatives would be against him.  Perhaps you should look at your own underlying issues?

In the thread started on this board about the selection of Sen. Harris as Biden’s running mate, a frequent and somehow respected contributor here posted that her success was due to who she slept with early in her career. She is the daughter of immigrants, raised in a single-parent household by her mother. Got a law degree, became a prosecutor then attorney general of the most populous state in our nation, elected senator to represent the same state. That post was followed by several jokes about Harris’s supposed sexual behavior. When I objected, I was told to lighten up, it was a joke. There were also posts saying the only reason she was chosen was she was a woman and a minority.

On the other hand we have Donald Trump, friend of Jeffrey Epstein, in his third marriage, bragged about putting moves on married women and grabbing the [BLEEP] of anybody he chose, kissing women without asking, had affairs with a porn star and a Playboy model and all we hear are excuses or cries of fake news. No jokes unless you count the ones revealing admiration for his sexual prowess.

And one other thing, as a woman and a person of color Senator Harris represents a large demographic of the Democratic party, but her choice was called pandering. Trump’s running mate was a conservative white evangelical Christian, why was adding him to the ticket not called pandering to a much needed and valued voting block of Republicans? 

I don’t remember any objection or opposing opinion expressed by you to any of these posts, perhaps you have underlying issues when it comes to women.

And none of that addresses the point does it.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Isn't this funny.

Trump's "Election Defense Fund" website

From the fine print:  

Contributions to TMAGAC made by an Individual/Federal Multicandidate Political Committee will be allocated according to the following formula:
60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000, then to DJTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800/$5,000.
40% of each contribution to the RNC’s Operating account, up to a maximum of $35,500/$15,000.
Any additional funds will go to the RNC for deposit in the RNC’s Legal Proceedings account or Headquarters account, up to a maximum of $213,000/$90,000.

In other words, if you send them $1,000, thinking it goes to an "Election Defense Fund," it doesn't.  It goes to the Save America Pac, which is Trump's personal piggy bank.

Dang!  This is grifting on a championship level!

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Is that maximum per donation or total? Pretty sure it's total.

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Is that maximum per donation or total? Pretty sure it's total.

I don't know.  But the point is, the little guy who sends in a couple of hundred bucks thinking he's contributing to an "election defense fund" isn't.  He or she is actually sending their money almost directly into Trump's pocket.  

This is directly from the website, unfiltered by the MSM.  Go read it yourself.  It's right there in the fine print.

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IMO, anybody who donates to ANY political campaign or fund deserves to have their money "stolen".

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IMO, anybody who donates to ANY political campaign or fund deserves to have their money "stolen".

"Your honor, I know my client is a con artist, but his victims deserved it!"

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Is that maximum per donation or total? Pretty sure it's total.

I don't know.  But the point is, the little guy who sends in a couple of hundred bucks thinking he's contributing to an "election defense fund" isn't.  He or she is actually sending their money almost directly into Trump's pocket.  

This is directly from the website, unfiltered by the MSM.  Go read it yourself.  It's right there in the fine print.

At this point, if you're an average guy living paycheck to paycheck and you send a couple of hundred dollars to Trump's "election defense fund", you deserve to get scammed. I have no sympathy. He's just weeding out the stupid people. That's how he's made a living in the past and that's probably what he'll go right back to once he's dragged from the white house.

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IMO, anybody who donates to ANY political campaign or fund deserves to have their money "stolen".

"Your honor, I know my client is a con artist, but his victims deserved it!"

It's true. Some people deserve what they get, because they're just so gullible. If you keep buying into lies over and over, you're beyond hope. He got elected by promising a wall that Mexico would pay for. Only tiny sections got built and he had to divert funds from other things to pay for what was constructed. He said we had to get rid of Obamacare, because he had a much better healthcare plan and it was gonna blow everyone away how good it was. Four years later and no one has seen anything even resembling this great healthcare plan he promised. He said what a great businessman and he was and he would eliminate the federal debt in 8 years. Instead, he's added over $6 trillion to the debt since Obama left office. 

The guy is, was and always will be a snake oil salesman and he's never gonna change. He tells people what they wanna hear in order to get what he wants and then he moves on to the next scam.

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IMO, anybody who donates to ANY political campaign or fund deserves to have their money "stolen".

"Your honor, I know my client is a con artist, but his victims deserved it!"

Dude, it's no different than donating to United Way AKA United Waste or any other charity television ads want you to believe isn't lining the pockets of charity administrators. 

The only difference here is Trump is an easy target for your people.

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"Your honor, I know my client is a con artist, but his victims deserved it!"

Dude, it's no different than donating to United Way AKA United Waste or any other charity television ads want you to believe isn't lining the pockets of charity administrators. 

The only difference here is Trump is an easy target for your people.

"Your honor, I know my client is a con artist, but what about all the other con artists out there?"

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Dude, it's no different than donating to United Way AKA United Waste or any other charity television ads want you to believe isn't lining the pockets of charity administrators. 

The only difference here is Trump is an easy target for your people.

"Your honor, I know my client is a con artist, but what about all the other con artists out there?"

Selective justice.

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Speaking of slimy administrators, anyone remember the news in which the Wounded Warriors execs were using donations to fund their vacations in lavish Colorado resorts and such.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wounded-war...ion-money/

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Is that maximum per donation or total? Pretty sure it's total.

I don't know.  But the point is, the little guy who sends in a couple of hundred bucks thinking he's contributing to an "election defense fund" isn't.  He or she is actually sending their money almost directly into Trump's pocket.  

This is directly from the website, unfiltered by the MSM.  Go read it yourself.  It's right there in the fine print.

Only 10k of that is going to Trump's foundations, and the rest to the RNC. Do you know how ridiculous it is to suggest that Trump is trying to steal 10k total from America? Like he's just CRUSHING it from that kind of haul... lol. I know to the average person, that may seem like a lot of money, but it's nothing to a billionaire. You think Trump is running this thing himself? I haven't verified, but, if I had to guess, it's a legal disclaimer that just lets people know a small portion is going back to pay administrative fees. Big deal.

Now, my opinion changes if that a percentage per donation. But, I don't think that's the case.

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I don't know.  But the point is, the little guy who sends in a couple of hundred bucks thinking he's contributing to an "election defense fund" isn't.  He or she is actually sending their money almost directly into Trump's pocket.  

This is directly from the website, unfiltered by the MSM.  Go read it yourself.  It's right there in the fine print.

Only 10k of that is going to Trump's foundations, and the rest to the RNC. Do you know how ridiculous it is to suggest that Trump is trying to steal 10k total from America? Like he's just CRUSHING it from that kind of haul... lol. I know to the average person, that may seem like a lot of money, but it's nothing to a billionaire. You think Trump is running this thing himself? I haven't verified, but, if I had to guess, it's a legal disclaimer that just lets people know a small portion is going back to pay administrative fees. Big deal.

Now, my opinion changes if that a percentage per donation. But, I don't think that's the case.

Where do you get the idea that only 10k is going to Trump's PAC?   That's not what it says.

Contributions to TMAGAC made by an Individual/Federal Multicandidate Political Committee will be allocated according to the following formula:
60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000, then to DJTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800/$5,000.
40% of each contribution to the RNC’s Operating account, up to a maximum of $35,500/$15,000.
Any additional funds will go to the RNC for deposit in the RNC’s Legal Proceedings account or Headquarters account, up to a maximum of $213,000/$90,000.

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Breaking ...

Arizona election workers are going to work a 24-hour-shift today to try to get another 187 ballots counted.

-catturd

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Only 10k of that is going to Trump's foundations, and the rest to the RNC. Do you know how ridiculous it is to suggest that Trump is trying to steal 10k total from America? Like he's just CRUSHING it from that kind of haul... lol. I know to the average person, that may seem like a lot of money, but it's nothing to a billionaire. You think Trump is running this thing himself? I haven't verified, but, if I had to guess, it's a legal disclaimer that just lets people know a small portion is going back to pay administrative fees. Big deal.

Now, my opinion changes if that a percentage per donation. But, I don't think that's the case.

Where do you get the idea that only 10k is going to Trump's PAC?   That's not what it says.

Contributions to TMAGAC made by an Individual/Federal Multicandidate Political Committee will be allocated according to the following formula:
60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000, then to DJTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800/$5,000.
40% of each contribution to the RNC’s Operating account, up to a maximum of $35,500/$15,000.
Any additional funds will go to the RNC for deposit in the RNC’s Legal Proceedings account or Headquarters account, up to a maximum of $213,000/$90,000.

That was my question. Is the 5k total of all the contributions or is it 5k total based on the amount of the donation. For example, if he gets 1000 donations of 100 bucks, in one instance, he gets 10k (because that's the maximum they can collect, and in the other, he gets 60k. Which is it?

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Where do you get the idea that only 10k is going to Trump's PAC?   That's not what it says.

Contributions to TMAGAC made by an Individual/Federal Multicandidate Political Committee will be allocated according to the following formula:
60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000, then to DJTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800/$5,000.
40% of each contribution to the RNC’s Operating account, up to a maximum of $35,500/$15,000.
Any additional funds will go to the RNC for deposit in the RNC’s Legal Proceedings account or Headquarters account, up to a maximum of $213,000/$90,000.

That was my question. Is the 5k total of all the contributions or is it 5k total based on the amount of the donation. For example, if he gets 1000 donations of 100 bucks, in one instance, he gets 10k (because that's the maximum they can collect, and in the other, he gets 60k. Which is it?

It's EACH contribution.  

"60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000..."

There is no limit to how much of the money he can put in his PAC.   It depends on how many people contribute.  And there's another big chunk to the RNC.  Also unlimited.  Because it is a percentage of each contribution.  

 

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Awwww, aren't ya'll cute.

Meanwhile...

Biden’s fund, called the Biden Fight Fund, also lists donation allocation at the bottom of the page. Rather than using percentages, they list an order in which donations are allocated. “Contributions from persons shall be allocated in the following order: $142,000 to the DNC, $2,800 to the Biden for President Recount Account, and any additional funds to the DNC, subject to applicable contribution limits.”

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/verify...0ea23bfca3

What really takes the cake on this, and shows how corrupted our information really is, is the simple fact that a Google search for "Biden Election Defense Fund" returns 9 articles on the first page and EVERY SINGLE ONE of them is about Trump's defense fund. Then folks hop on here an incensed about #OrangeManBad while completely ignoring that #sundownjoe and his crew are doing pretty much the same thing.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Awwww, aren't ya'll cute.

Meanwhile...

Biden’s fund, called the Biden Fight Fund, also lists donation allocation at the bottom of the page. Rather than using percentages, they list an order in which donations are allocated. “Contributions from persons shall be allocated in the following order: $142,000 to the DNC, $2,800 to the Biden for President Recount Account, and any additional funds to the DNC, subject to applicable contribution limits.”

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/verify...0ea23bfca3

What really takes the cake on this, and shows how corrupted our information really is, is the simple fact that a Google search for "Biden Election Defense Fund" returns 9 articles on the first page and EVERY SINGLE ONE of them is about Trump's defense fund. Then folks hop on here an incensed about #OrangeManBad while completely ignoring that #sundownjoe and his crew are doing pretty much the same thing.

The article is incorrect.  

"Trump’s fund, called the Official Election Defense Fund, lists how contributions are allocated at the bottom of the page. It says 60% of a person’s donations goes to paying off the debt of the campaign’s general election account with the other 40% going to the RNC’s operating account. Once the debt is paid off, 60% of contributions will go to Trump’s recount account. All of these pools have maximums per contributor and once those maximums are exceeded, funds go into Trump’s recount account, the RNC’s legal proceedings account or the RNC headquarters account."

The underlined part is not true.  The so-called "Official Election Defense Fund" website says nothing about paying off campaign debts.  Instead, it says 60% of each person's donation goes to Trump's brand-new PAC, the Save America PAC, which is run and controlled by Trump.  It is NOT for the purpose of paying off campaign debt.  If you don't believe me, read it yourself.  

Link

As for the Biden website, none of the allocation is for any entity controlled by Biden himself.  So the difference is, Trump can personally profit from the contributions, and Biden cannot.  None of this money can go into Biden's pocket.  

Notice also, there is an upper limit on how much of the contributions can go to the DNC ($142,000).  Every dollar after that goes to the Biden Legal Defense fund, unless it's a very large contribution.  There is NO upper limit on how much money can go to Trump's PAC.  It is 60% of EACH contribution.  He can theoretically take in unlimited amounts to this brand-new PAC which he controls.  

So, your effort at "equivalence" fails.  They are not "doing the same thing."  

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