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2020 Presidental Election


(11-16-2020, 02:37 PM)KodiakJag Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 02:26 PM)p_rushing Wrote: Interesting viewpoint

https://mobile.twitter.com/DineshDSouza/...9875660801

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Following that line of thought, we don't need proof that Donald Trump cheated on his taxes...only that he COULD have.

We don't have to prove OJ fatally stabbed Ron and Nicole, only that he could have.
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(11-16-2020, 08:43 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-15-2020, 11:16 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Hope you are right. I will say that Trump seems really calm about all of this. I do know that we can't maintain a democracy where 70 million people don't trust the outcome of an election.
Can we get an example of Trump being calm about losing the election?


Because screaming “I WON. I WAS CHEATED” may just be the exact opposite of “remaining calm”.

Exactly!!!!  

When you tweet in ALL CAPS, you are not calm.
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What evidence would be sufficient proof of voter fraud? There's already enough evidence to suspect it occurred, but what would it take to actually satisfy your concerns?
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(This post was last modified: 11-16-2020, 04:53 PM by mikesez.)

(11-16-2020, 04:42 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: What evidence would be sufficient proof of voter fraud? There's already enough evidence to suspect it occurred, but what would it take to actually satisfy your concerns?

There's enough evidence to strongly suspect some voter fraud occured.
What's lacking is any indication that the fraud involved enough votes in enough states for us to question the overall outcome.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
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Trump has lost due to voter fraud just like the Jags have lost due to a couple of missed holding calls.
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(This post was last modified: 11-16-2020, 06:02 PM by NeptuneBeachBum.)

(11-16-2020, 05:18 PM)lastonealive Wrote: Trump has lost due to voter fraud just like the Jags have lost due to a couple of missed holding calls.

Maybe the Jags can take the NFL referees to the Supreme Court for those calls and be declared Super Bowl Champions this year? Make the argument that if you count only the LEGAL points scored in each game, we would be undefeated!

I mean, the Jags have about the same likelihood of success of that happening as Trump's lawyers do with an election reversal.  Maybe the Jags should just start tweeting in all caps "WE ARE SUPER BOWL LV CHAMPIONS!!!  WE WON BIG!!!!".

Worth a shot. I mean, we all just want the integrity of the game results, don't we?
This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.
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Myles Jack wasn't down.
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(11-16-2020, 04:52 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 04:42 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: What evidence would be sufficient proof of voter fraud? There's already enough evidence to suspect it occurred, but what would it take to actually satisfy your concerns?

There's enough evidence to strongly suspect some voter fraud occured.
What's lacking is any indication that the fraud involved enough votes in enough states for us to question the overall outcome.

I understand that. I am just asking what kind of evidence would you need to throw out the results? I am struggling to answer this, myself, but I am starting from a different viewpoint, so my standard is lower. I want to know what it would take to convince someone who doesn't think fraud occurred.
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(11-16-2020, 06:08 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 04:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: There's enough evidence to strongly suspect some voter fraud occured.
What's lacking is any indication that the fraud involved enough votes in enough states for us to question the overall outcome.

I understand that. I am just asking what kind of evidence would you need to throw out the results? I am struggling to answer this, myself, but I am starting from a different viewpoint, so my standard is lower. I want to know what it would take to convince someone who doesn't think fraud occurred.

Clearly.
This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.
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(11-16-2020, 06:08 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 04:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: There's enough evidence to strongly suspect some voter fraud occured.
What's lacking is any indication that the fraud involved enough votes in enough states for us to question the overall outcome.

I understand that. I am just asking what kind of evidence would you need to throw out the results? I am struggling to answer this, myself, but I am starting from a different viewpoint, so my standard is lower. I want to know what it would take to convince someone who doesn't think fraud occurred.

You'd need evidence the election was systematically rigged against Trump by the Democrats with hundreds of thousands of votes added or removed purely to increase Bidens lead. So far nothing even slightly close to that has came up.
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(11-16-2020, 06:08 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 04:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: There's enough evidence to strongly suspect some voter fraud occured.
What's lacking is any indication that the fraud involved enough votes in enough states for us to question the overall outcome.

I understand that. I am just asking what kind of evidence would you need to throw out the results? I am struggling to answer this, myself, but I am starting from a different viewpoint, so my standard is lower. I want to know what it would take to convince someone who doesn't think fraud occurred.

I don't think anyone believes fraud didn't occur. It occurs with every election. Did it occur to a level sufficient to throw out the results? There's nothing solid at this point. Unless a bombshell appears in the very near future, it's time to start the transition. Trump is not doing the country, himself or Republicans any favors by holding out.
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Good news everyone. Biden will have EO within 100 days to forgive 50K of student loan debt.

If you are a deadbeat who can't pay your own bills and decided to major in underwater basket weaving, you are in luck!

To the people with real jobs who paid their own debt. Congratulations, you get to pay for it!

#BidensAmerica
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(11-16-2020, 06:26 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 06:08 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I understand that. I am just asking what kind of evidence would you need to throw out the results? I am struggling to answer this, myself, but I am starting from a different viewpoint, so my standard is lower. I want to know what it would take to convince someone who doesn't think fraud occurred.

I don't think anyone believes fraud didn't occur. It occurs with every election. Did it occur to a level sufficient to throw out the results? There's nothing solid at this point. Unless a bombshell appears in the very near future, it's time to start the transition. Trump is not doing the country, himself or Republicans any favors by holding out.

I somewhat agree.  Based on the anomalies that I have seen/read about, I do think that significant voter fraud occurred.  It's the whole "burden of proof" thing.  I just don't think that there is enough evidence to overturn the outcome.  We are pretty much stuck with a Biden Harris DNC presidency for the next four years.  We reap what we sow.


There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.
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(11-16-2020, 06:47 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Good news everyone. Biden will have EO within 100 days to forgive 50K of student loan debt.

If you are a deadbeat who can't pay your own bills and decided to major in underwater basket weaving, you are in luck!

To the people with real jobs who paid their own debt. Congratulations, you get to pay for it!

#BidensAmerica

That's pretty much where we're sliding.


There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.
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(11-16-2020, 07:33 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 06:47 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Good news everyone. Biden will have EO within 100 days to forgive 50K of student loan debt.

If you are a deadbeat who can't pay your own bills and decided to major in underwater basket weaving, you are in luck!

To the people with real jobs who paid their own debt. Congratulations, you get to pay for it!

#BidensAmerica

That's pretty much where we're sliding.

Good thing the people making over 400k will be paying for it.
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(11-16-2020, 05:57 PM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 05:18 PM)lastonealive Wrote: Trump has lost due to voter fraud just like the Jags have lost due to a couple of missed holding calls.

Maybe the Jags can take the NFL referees to the Supreme Court for those calls and be declared Super Bowl Champions this year?  Make the argument that if you count only the LEGAL points scored in each game, we would be undefeated!

I mean, the Jags have about the same likelihood of success of that happening as Trump's lawyers do with an election reversal.  Maybe the Jags should just start tweeting in all caps "WE ARE SUPER BOWL LV CHAMPIONS!!!  WE WON BIG!!!!".

Worth a shot.  I mean, we all just want the integrity of the game results, don't we?


Much better analogy than mine.

Think I can get my "WE WON BIGLY!" Jags shirt delivered by Christmas?
"We believe in victory!"   - Gus Bradley
"I don't want to believe.  I want to know."   - Carl Sagan
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(11-16-2020, 06:47 PM)JackCity Wrote: https://twitter.com/AmyEGardner/status/1...22721?s=19
And no one is commenting on this? 

Weird right? Wonder why.....
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Should probably be an investigation into Lindsey Graham and election fraud
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(11-16-2020, 08:01 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 06:47 PM)JackCity Wrote: https://twitter.com/AmyEGardner/status/1...22721?s=19
And no one is commenting on this? 

Weird right? Wonder why.....

Sorry...we’re gonna need to see proof of him doing that. Until then, it didn’t happen.
What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???
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