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2020 Presidental Election

(This post was last modified: 12-17-2020, 05:43 PM by The Real Marty.)

(12-17-2020, 05:28 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-17-2020, 04:55 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: So what are you saying exactly, that they would undersell us and put our farmers out of business?  What sort of American companies would they purchase that would allow them to control our food pricing?

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And this article gives words to the activities:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/how-much-o...really-own

[font=Roboto,]"In 2017, the United States imported $4.6 billion in agricultural goods from China, which is also responsible for much of the global supply of soy and pea proteins that are found in nutritional supplements and synthetic meats. A Chinese firm has also purchased Smithfield, the world's largest pork processor and hog producer."[/font]

and

"Citing the nonpartisan economic think-tank [font=Roboto,]Paulson Institute, the American Security Institute report underscores that "Chinese firms and investors own a controlling majority in nearly 2,400 U.S. companies."[/font]

These include: AMC Entertainment (entertainment), Cirrus Wind Energy (energy), Complete Genomics (health care), First International Oil (energy), G.E. Appliances (technology), IBM—P.C. division (technology), Legendary Entertainment Group (entertainment), Motorola Mobility (technology), Nexteer Automotive (automotive), Riot Games (entertainment), Smithfield Foods (food), Teledyne Continental Motors and Mattituck Services (aerospace), Terex Corp. (machinery), Triple H Coal (mining), Zonare Medical Systems (health care)."

I'm getting little bits and scraps from people, but I'm not getting any sort of plausible scenario where anyone could control the price of food in the United States.  The whole food supply chain is too gigantic.   And since the food we eat is mostly grown in the United States, how could any foreign country possibly control it?   You guys have gone off the deep end with this one.  

By the way, a lot of those companies in that chart are not US companies.
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(12-17-2020, 05:40 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(12-17-2020, 05:28 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [Image: who-owns-what.jpg]

And this article gives words to the activities:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/how-much-o...really-own

[font=Roboto,]"In 2017, the United States imported $4.6 billion in agricultural goods from China, which is also responsible for much of the global supply of soy and pea proteins that are found in nutritional supplements and synthetic meats. A Chinese firm has also purchased Smithfield, the world's largest pork processor and hog producer."[/font]

and

"Citing the nonpartisan economic think-tank [font=Roboto,]Paulson Institute, the American Security Institute report underscores that "Chinese firms and investors own a controlling majority in nearly 2,400 U.S. companies."[/font]

These include: AMC Entertainment (entertainment), Cirrus Wind Energy (energy), Complete Genomics (health care), First International Oil (energy), G.E. Appliances (technology), IBM—P.C. division (technology), Legendary Entertainment Group (entertainment), Motorola Mobility (technology), Nexteer Automotive (automotive), Riot Games (entertainment), Smithfield Foods (food), Teledyne Continental Motors and Mattituck Services (aerospace), Terex Corp. (machinery), Triple H Coal (mining), Zonare Medical Systems (health care)."

I'm getting little bits and scraps from people, but I'm not getting any sort of plausible scenario where anyone could control the price of food in the United States.  The whole food supply chain is too gigantic.   And since the food we eat is mostly grown in the United States, how could any foreign country possibly control it?   You guys have gone off the deep end with this one.  

By the way, a lot of those companies in that chart are not US companies.

Our meat may be grown here but it's sent to China to be packaged and sent back here to be sold in grocery stores. If China wanted to get nippy they could decide to not send it back. 

I think it's 100% absurd meat is not packaged in the US. How much money is wasted? It's absurd.
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(12-17-2020, 06:10 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:
(12-17-2020, 05:40 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: I'm getting little bits and scraps from people, but I'm not getting any sort of plausible scenario where anyone could control the price of food in the United States.  The whole food supply chain is too gigantic.   And since the food we eat is mostly grown in the United States, how could any foreign country possibly control it?   You guys have gone off the deep end with this one.  

By the way, a lot of those companies in that chart are not US companies.

Our meat may be grown here but it's sent to China to be packaged and sent back here to be sold in grocery stores. If China wanted to get nippy they could decide to not send it back. 

I think it's 100% absurd meat is not packaged in the US. How much money is wasted? It's absurd.

I think it's a good thing for the Chinese to be invested in the United States.  That gives them a stake in our economic success.  If they hurt our economy, they hurt themselves.
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(12-17-2020, 05:40 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(12-17-2020, 05:28 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [Image: who-owns-what.jpg]

And this article gives words to the activities:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/how-much-o...really-own

[font=Roboto,]"In 2017, the United States imported $4.6 billion in agricultural goods from China, which is also responsible for much of the global supply of soy and pea proteins that are found in nutritional supplements and synthetic meats. A Chinese firm has also purchased Smithfield, the world's largest pork processor and hog producer."[/font]

and

"Citing the nonpartisan economic think-tank [font=Roboto,]Paulson Institute, the American Security Institute report underscores that "Chinese firms and investors own a controlling majority in nearly 2,400 U.S. companies."[/font]

These include: AMC Entertainment (entertainment), Cirrus Wind Energy (energy), Complete Genomics (health care), First International Oil (energy), G.E. Appliances (technology), IBM—P.C. division (technology), Legendary Entertainment Group (entertainment), Motorola Mobility (technology), Nexteer Automotive (automotive), Riot Games (entertainment), Smithfield Foods (food), Teledyne Continental Motors and Mattituck Services (aerospace), Terex Corp. (machinery), Triple H Coal (mining), Zonare Medical Systems (health care)."

I'm getting little bits and scraps from people, but I'm not getting any sort of plausible scenario where anyone could control the price of food in the United States.  The whole food supply chain is too gigantic.   And since the food we eat is mostly grown in the United States, how could any foreign country possibly control it?   You guys have gone off the deep end with this one.  

By the way, a lot of those companies in that chart are not US companies.

Not really.


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MSM has Marty brainwashed really well on all things China.
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(12-17-2020, 07:11 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: MSM has Marty brainwashed really well on all things China.

That’s odd.  Because usually it’s not The China that brainwashes men.  Just sayin’.
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Re-watching Deep Impact and Morgan Freeman makes a more credible President than Trump does. He is definitely more articulate.
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(12-18-2020, 06:14 AM)captivating Wrote: Re-watching Deep Impact and Morgan Freeman makes a more credible President than Trump does.  He is definitely more articulate.

Rehearsed scripts and multi-takes tend to do that. You know, because one is a, um, movie. 

I'm sure you knew that.

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(12-18-2020, 06:14 AM)captivating Wrote: Re-watching Deep Impact and Morgan Freeman makes a more credible President than Trump does.  He is definitely more articulate.

Palmer on 24 was the best black president ever and it isn't even close. Imagine if Obama were more like him.
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(12-18-2020, 08:53 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(12-18-2020, 06:14 AM)captivating Wrote: Re-watching Deep Impact and Morgan Freeman makes a more credible President than Trump does.  He is definitely more articulate.

Palmer on 24 was the best black president ever and it isn't even close. Imagine if Obama were more like him.

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(This post was last modified: 12-21-2020, 09:03 AM by StroudCrowd1.)

"The news is pure liberal propaganda, our electoral process has been hijacked, we are twenty-five trillion dollars in debt and printing money like confetti, authority and laws are disrespected, and ignorance reigns. America has been gutted by the Left and we didn’t fight for her."

Jimmy Woods
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(12-21-2020, 09:03 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: "The news is pure liberal propaganda, our electoral process has been hijacked, we are twenty-five trillion dollars in debt and printing money like confetti, authority and laws are disrespected, and ignorance reigns. America has been gutted by the Left and we didn’t fight for her."

Jimmy Woods


Nothing a little martial law couldn't fix
"We believe in victory!"   - Gus Bradley
"I don't want to believe.  I want to know."   - Carl Sagan
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(12-21-2020, 10:06 PM)KodiakJag Wrote:
(12-21-2020, 09:03 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: "The news is pure liberal propaganda, our electoral process has been hijacked, we are twenty-five trillion dollars in debt and printing money like confetti, authority and laws are disrespected, and ignorance reigns. America has been gutted by the Left and we didn’t fight for her."

Jimmy Woods


Nothing a little martial law couldn't fix

Except that’s been refuted...
What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???
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(12-21-2020, 09:03 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: "The news is pure liberal propaganda, our electoral process has been hijacked, we are twenty-five trillion dollars in debt and printing money like confetti, authority and laws are disrespected, and ignorance reigns. America has been gutted by the Left and we didn’t fight for her."

Jimmy Woods

I thought Trump was a Republican. This is all on his watch.
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30 days left for trump to win the election.
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(12-22-2020, 04:39 AM)Jag88 Wrote: 30 days left for trump to win the election.

No, January 6 is the date.  Congress formally recognize Biden as the incoming president.  Pence will betray Trump in overseeing that leaving Rudy as Trump’s last ally.

The walls have crumbled around Trump.  His support has dwindled to just a handful.
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(12-22-2020, 08:48 PM)captivating Wrote:
(12-22-2020, 04:39 AM)Jag88 Wrote: 30 days left for trump to win the election.

No, January 6 is the date.  Congress formally recognize Biden as the incoming president.  Pence will betray Trump in overseeing that leaving Rudy as Trump’s last ally.

The walls have crumbled around Trump.  His support has dwindled to just a handful.

Don't kid yourself. His support is still necessary. He is now a king maker, oh, and a billionaire.
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(This post was last modified: 12-22-2020, 09:59 PM by KodiakJag.)

(12-22-2020, 09:01 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(12-22-2020, 08:48 PM)captivating Wrote: No, January 6 is the date.  Congress formally recognize Biden as the incoming president.  Pence will betray Trump in overseeing that leaving Rudy as Trump’s last ally.

The walls have crumbled around Trump.  His support has dwindled to just a handful.

Don't kid yourself. His support is still necessary. He is now a king maker, oh, and a billionaire.


Kingmaker, definitely an upgrade from POTUS so I guess Trump's still winning.

And continuing to play the billionaire/almighty dollar worship card?  Bezos & Gates are billionaires and have many times the net worth that Trump has, so do you worship them too?
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"I don't want to believe.  I want to know."   - Carl Sagan
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(12-22-2020, 09:01 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(12-22-2020, 08:48 PM)captivating Wrote: No, January 6 is the date.  Congress formally recognize Biden as the incoming president.  Pence will betray Trump in overseeing that leaving Rudy as Trump’s last ally.

The walls have crumbled around Trump.  His support has dwindled to just a handful.

Don't kid yourself. His support is still necessary. He is now a king maker, oh, and a billionaire.

We shall see.  The Republicans who are still in power aren't going to bring him up.  They won't antagonize him.  There will be little reason for him to weigh in on which ones he likes and dislikes.
Trump's celebrity power has never transferred to other people. The only people who might actually benefit from him are his kids.  And I think his kids will get laughed off the 2024 stage much the same way as Jeb! was laughed off 2016.
But we shall see.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
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(12-18-2020, 09:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-18-2020, 08:53 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Palmer on 24 was the best black president ever and it isn't even close. Imagine if Obama were more like him.

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