Still too undisciplined with dumb penalties , procedure errors, some bone headed play calling and hold onto the darn ball. Will someone please help out the rookie.

This isn't an 0-17 team and I hope they improve enough to let some talent help out more. I am disappointed in the WR play they don't attack the ball or do anything that stands out. This team needs a real serviceable TE. It speaks volumes that the new guy had to play so much. Yikes

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Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...91168?s=19

I got you

Thank you.

I am further sickened by Norwell.  That was a TD if he got the blocking.

https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/14...S8xtg&s=19

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Here's my impression from being at the game. 

This was our best game yet.  We could have won, but a couple of critical errors cost us the game.  Aside from the flea-flicker pick-6, we were going in for a TD when Hollister bobbled a perfect pass and turned it into an INT.  Once again, Campbell was in position to defend a deep pass and failed to find the ball.  

Trevor is up and down.  Brilliant in stretches, idiotic in stretches.  Sometimes, he looks like the best QB we've ever had.  I think he'll be a great QB. 

The defense is definitely getting better.  But I'm starting to wonder if Campbell will ever learn to defend a deep pass.

We did so much better mixing in the run.  But our offense is still kind of out of sync.  

From reading the posts this morning, almost everyone seems to be overreacting as usual.

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Here's my impression from being at the game. 

This was our best game yet.  We could have won, but a couple of critical errors cost us the game.  Aside from the flea-flicker pick-6, we were going in for a TD when Hollister bobbled a perfect pass and turned it into an INT.  Once again, Campbell was in position to defend a deep pass and failed to find the ball.  

Trevor is up and down.  Brilliant in stretches, idiotic in stretches.  Sometimes, he looks like the best QB we've ever had.  I think he'll be a great QB. 

The defense is definitely getting better.  But I'm starting to wonder if Campbell will ever learn to defend a deep pass.

We did so much better mixing in the run.  But our offense is still kind of out of sync.  

From reading the posts this morning, almost everyone seems to be overreacting as usual.

TLaw is already the second best QB we've ever had, and in a few years he'll be the best. It's a shame the front office and coaches are so insistent on their refusal to help him get better.  Campbell has a deficiency that you don't really acquire, you either have a sense of ball location or you don't. Not saying it's all inclusive, but in over 40 years of watching I've never seen a professional player figure that out after he got to the NFL. He's definitely better outside than in the slot though. For all of 1 series the coaches figured out that James Robinson is the best player on this team, and it lasted just that long before they forgot about him again. It really sucks when your team is bad because of things so basic that message board morons get them and professionals don't.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Here's my impression from being at the game. 

This was our best game yet.  We could have won, but a couple of critical errors cost us the game.  Aside from the flea-flicker pick-6, we were going in for a TD when Hollister bobbled a perfect pass and turned it into an INT.  Once again, Campbell was in position to defend a deep pass and failed to find the ball.  

Trevor is up and down.  Brilliant in stretches, idiotic in stretches.  Sometimes, he looks like the best QB we've ever had.  I think he'll be a great QB. 

The defense is definitely getting better.  But I'm starting to wonder if Campbell will ever learn to defend a deep pass.

We did so much better mixing in the run.  But our offense is still kind of out of sync.  

From reading the posts this morning, almost everyone seems to be overreacting as usual.

Almost 100% agree with this. Except, the pass to Hollister was not perfect. It was about 8" to his right but still within his wingspan so shoulda been caught. The two biggest bonehead plays were definitely Norwell spinning like a top and Wilson's penalty for the push at the end of that otherwise great tackle of his. Those 3 plays may very well have cost us the game. 

Also, a Taven sighting. An almost oopsie sack that he got with an off-balance, one handed push to Murray's side. But the defense played nasty today. In a good way, they just got worn down. The Cards defense was sucking wind after that long drive in the 3rd quarter but we let them off the hook. 

Marvin Jones is far and away our most consistent receiver followed by 'Viska. But Viska and Chark are dropping too many passes.  I would like to see TL make more pass attempts at Manhertz. We also need more than the above 3 WRs to be making plays.

Defensively we all know more and sooner pressure on the opposing QBs will greatly help the secondary

Of our top 5 picks from the draft, only Trevor and Campbell are getting any playing time that anyone has noticed. Meyer stated before the season that those 5 needed to be big contributors to the team. Well, most of them are not so far. That needs to change pretty soon

Agnew is money. Enough said on that .

Lambo looks a mere shadow of his former self

This was our best game so far. We could have won it but didn't. Going forward, continue to improve. Get more contributions from the rookies (Cisco, Little even Tufele). TL continue to learn and grow as an NFL QB. Most important? More pressure and sooner on opposing QBs

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Schenault and Chark are playing slow. They seem clunky and out of place. They need to play better.

Lambo has good leg strength on kickoffs so it isn't a structural issue. He just has a bad bad case of the yips.

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Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

Thank you.

I am further sickened by Norwell.  That was a TD if he got the blocking.

https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/14...S8xtg&s=19

https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/14...44354?s=19

I hope that's a joke.

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https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/14...S8xtg&s=19

https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/14...44354?s=19

I hope that's a joke.

That cannot possibly be true.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...39812?s=19


It's true lol. Dear God.

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https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...39812?s=19


It's true lol. Dear God.

Warhop rocks! That is one helluva design feature.

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Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

Give this man some credit

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...78820?s=20

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Caveat:  I missed about half of the first quarter.  Got a last second invite to watch the game with my best friend, and I succumbed to the lure of wings.  So from the 2nd Cardinals possession, I was listening on the radio.

My thoughts on what I saw...

1.      After two weeks, the Jaguars were surprisingly competent along the OL, only surrendering two sacks in that time frame.  Today, that largely continued against the Cardinals.  There was one unfortunate breakdown that led to the TL INT in the 2nd half, but I have to commend the OL overall for a good game.  Chandler Jones did not run rampant as I feared he might.

2.      So far, the lack of offensive balance has been the biggest complaint on offense.  The team hasn’t utilized James Robinson, and it has put Trevor Lawrence in bad situations, putting too much of the offensive burden on him.  With an explosive offense like the Cardinals, today represented a good opportunity to keep the ball on the ground to help negate Chandler Jones’ pass rush and to keep that offense off the field.  Fortunately for the Jaguars, they employed that strategy, and it was effective.  The first scoring drive in the second half, we had something like 7 runs in 8 plays.  I think this is the game where James Robinson earned the trust of Urban Meyer, and that will bode well for us in the future.

3.  Boneheaded penalty by 54.

4.  This is going to seem weird considering we gave up over 400 yards offense and 24 points defensively, but considering we were down two DBs, the defense held up relatively well.  We got our first turnover of the season and forced some punts.  We held the Cards to seven points at halftime and had the lead throughout the 3rd quarter.

5.  What s it going to take for receivers to hold onto TL’s passes?!?  While the drops were down this week compared  to the first two weeks, Hollister’s inability to hold onto a pass led directly to TL’s first INT and cost us points.  Considering Lambo’s struggles, a score was not guaranteed, but we were inside the Cards’ 15.   An extra 3 or 7 in this game could have been huge.  If we score then, maybe we don’t go for the flea flicker later.

6.  Special teams is close to being a real strength for this team.  Logan Cooke continues to boom the ball, and had a punt downed at the one.  Agnew is making an early bid for first quarter MVP, with his second kick return for a TD in as many weeks, this time with a 109 yard kick return of a 68 yard FG attempt right before half time.  Sadly, what is missing from special teams is any sort of competence from Josh Lambo, of all people.  Today, he missed two XPs for us/  Combined with the 3 missed FGs, he seems really in a bad mindset.  I’m not sure how much longer the team can stick with him missing these kicks like that.  Iven what he has done for us, I’d hate to cut him, but this team is not good enough to leave point off the board with his misses.
 
7.            Rookie Watch
              
A.            Trevor Lawrence-I attributed many of TLs struggles the first two weeks in large part to bad down and distance situations.  Too often, we’d be behind the sticks and TL would have to try low completion percentage passes.  Then we got behind on the scoreboard against Denver.  But we don’t habe that excuse to offer him today.  Today, we were in the lead for most of the first three quarters.  In fact, we were up by two scores in the 3rd quarter.  We ran the ball well, and we didn’t have a lot of dumb penalties keeping us hopelessly behind the sticks.  As I indicated above, I don’t fault him foi his first INT.  Hollister has to come up with that and not pop it up in the air.  But on the flea flicker, even acknowledging Watt came in unblockedm TL either has to eat that or get the pass out of bounds.  That INT was a backbreaker, especially coming off that Cardinals TD drive the series before.  On top of that, his pattern of streakiness continued, as in the second half, he had a stretch where he missed 4 straight passes.  He needs more consistency.   Not sure what happened on the first drive on 3rd down when Marvin Jones stopped and TL threw as if he expected Jones to keep running, but those sorts of things bring drives to a halt.

B.            Travis Etienne-DNP-IR

C.            Tyson Campbell-got extensive playing time today because of injuries to C.J. Henderson and Tre Herndon.  So today, he went up against the likes of DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Green, Christian kirk, and rookie Rondale Moore.  There were two plays that stuck out to me.  One on a shorter pass where he broke the pass up.  The other was on a deeper pass in the second half where green out positioned him for the ball, leaving me shaking my head in dismay.

D.            Walker Little-DNP.  Has been inactive all year; now out due to Covid issues.  When Cam Robinson came out with an injury in the 2nd half, Will Richardson came in.

E.            Andre Cisco-Did not see him play at all.

F.            Jay Tufele-DNP-inactive all year

G.           Jordan Smith-Inactive

H.            Luke Farrell-I thought he would get a start, but instead, Jacob Hollister seemed to get playing time.
 
8.              He gets a lot of crap thrown his way by fans, including myself, but give Wingard credit.  He made a nice play on the INT from start to finish.  He put himself in great position bracketing the WR deep, put himself in position to make the INT, actually made the play on the ball and held onto it, and made a decent return.

9.            Still don’t fully understand the RB rotation. 


10.          Bottom line:  While very few Jaguars fans (myself included) expected to win this game, the end results were, nevertheless, disappointing.  We controlled the game for the better part of three quarters.  With the first INT and the two missed extra points, we left anywhere between 5-9 points on the field.  Add the pick 6 that TL threw on the flea flicker, that’s a difference of 12-16 points in a game lost by 12.  In a season where I am looking for signs of progress, this game qualifies as such.  But the abiding sense is that this was a blown opportunity to get a win against a solid Cardinals team.  On to Cincy in a short week.  Hopefully, we can get a win against the Bengals.  But we have to stop turning the ball over, stop leaving points on the field, execute better, and continue to run thee ball.

Thank you for the great review as usual.

Regarding the parts in bold...

I just can't believe how Lambo has seemed to have just "lost it".  The guy used to be the most consistent player on the team the last couple of seasons.

Trevor Lawrence has been "so-so" in my opinion for much of the reasons that you stated.  There is no denying that the guy is talented and will eventually be a good QB.  I think he's going to need a few more games before everything starts kind of "slowing down" for him.  It's never wise to just throw a ball up like he did on the flea-flicker play.

I also don't quite get the RB rotation.  I may be off on this, but I think that they use Hyde way more than I thought they would.  It's almost like they don't have a "feature" back.  While Hyde had done decent, I feel like we should be feeding Robinson more.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Give this man some credit

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...78820?s=20

Hopkins got a new daddy.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...39812?s=19


It's true lol. Dear God.

Yup, you can hear Trevor call it out as he walks up to the center in this clip. He says "whirly bird" then follows it up with "you drew".
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...4040001538

Talk about trying to get too cute... Jesus.

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Caveat:  I missed about half of the first quarter.  Got a last second invite to watch the game with my best friend, and I succumbed to the lure of wings.  So from the 2nd Cardinals possession, I was listening on the radio.

My thoughts on what I saw...

1.      After two weeks, the Jaguars were surprisingly competent along the OL, only surrendering two sacks in that time frame.  Today, that largely continued against the Cardinals.  There was one unfortunate breakdown that led to the TL INT in the 2nd half, but I have to commend the OL overall for a good game.  Chandler Jones did not run rampant as I feared he might.

2.      So far, the lack of offensive balance has been the biggest complaint on offense.  The team hasn’t utilized James Robinson, and it has put Trevor Lawrence in bad situations, putting too much of the offensive burden on him.  With an explosive offense like the Cardinals, today represented a good opportunity to keep the ball on the ground to help negate Chandler Jones’ pass rush and to keep that offense off the field.  Fortunately for the Jaguars, they employed that strategy, and it was effective.  The first scoring drive in the second half, we had something like 7 runs in 8 plays.  I think this is the game where James Robinson earned the trust of Urban Meyer, and that will bode well for us in the future.

3.  Boneheaded penalty by 54.

4.  This is going to seem weird considering we gave up over 400 yards offense and 24 points defensively, but considering we were down two DBs, the defense held up relatively well.  We got our first turnover of the season and forced some punts.  We held the Cards to seven points at halftime and had the lead throughout the 3rd quarter.

5.  What s it going to take for receivers to hold onto TL’s passes?!?  While the drops were down this week compared  to the first two weeks, Hollister’s inability to hold onto a pass led directly to TL’s first INT and cost us points.  Considering Lambo’s struggles, a score was not guaranteed, but we were inside the Cards’ 15.   An extra 3 or 7 in this game could have been huge.  If we score then, maybe we don’t go for the flea flicker later.

6.  Special teams is close to being a real strength for this team.  Logan Cooke continues to boom the ball, and had a punt downed at the one.  Agnew is making an early bid for first quarter MVP, with his second kick return for a TD in as many weeks, this time with a 109 yard kick return of a 68 yard FG attempt right before half time.  Sadly, what is missing from special teams is any sort of competence from Josh Lambo, of all people.  Today, he missed two XPs for us/  Combined with the 3 missed FGs, he seems really in a bad mindset.  I’m not sure how much longer the team can stick with him missing these kicks like that.  Iven what he has done for us, I’d hate to cut him, but this team is not good enough to leave point off the board with his misses.
 
7.            Rookie Watch
              
A.            Trevor Lawrence-I attributed many of TLs struggles the first two weeks in large part to bad down and distance situations.  Too often, we’d be behind the sticks and TL would have to try low completion percentage passes.  Then we got behind on the scoreboard against Denver.  But we don’t habe that excuse to offer him today.  Today, we were in the lead for most of the first three quarters.  In fact, we were up by two scores in the 3rd quarter.  We ran the ball well, and we didn’t have a lot of dumb penalties keeping us hopelessly behind the sticks.  As I indicated above, I don’t fault him foi his first INT.  Hollister has to come up with that and not pop it up in the air.  But on the flea flicker, even acknowledging Watt came in unblockedm TL either has to eat that or get the pass out of bounds.  That INT was a backbreaker, especially coming off that Cardinals TD drive the series before.  On top of that, his pattern of streakiness continued, as in the second half, he had a stretch where he missed 4 straight passes.  He needs more consistency.   Not sure what happened on the first drive on 3rd down when Marvin Jones stopped and TL threw as if he expected Jones to keep running, but those sorts of things bring drives to a halt.

B.            Travis Etienne-DNP-IR

C.            Tyson Campbell-got extensive playing time today because of injuries to C.J. Henderson and Tre Herndon.  So today, he went up against the likes of DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Green, Christian kirk, and rookie Rondale Moore.  There were two plays that stuck out to me.  One on a shorter pass where he broke the pass up.  The other was on a deeper pass in the second half where green out positioned him for the ball, leaving me shaking my head in dismay.

D.            Walker Little-DNP.  Has been inactive all year; now out due to Covid issues.  When Cam Robinson came out with an injury in the 2nd half, Will Richardson came in.

E.            Andre Cisco-Did not see him play at all.

F.            Jay Tufele-DNP-inactive all year

G.           Jordan Smith-Inactive

H.            Luke Farrell-I thought he would get a start, but instead, Jacob Hollister seemed to get playing time.
 
8.              He gets a lot of crap thrown his way by fans, including myself, but give Wingard credit.  He made a nice play on the INT from start to finish.  He put himself in great position bracketing the WR deep, put himself in position to make the INT, actually made the play on the ball and held onto it, and made a decent return.

9.            Still don’t fully understand the RB rotation. 


10.          Bottom line:  While very few Jaguars fans (myself included) expected to win this game, the end results were, nevertheless, disappointing.  We controlled the game for the better part of three quarters.  With the first INT and the two missed extra points, we left anywhere between 5-9 points on the field.  Add the pick 6 that TL threw on the flea flicker, that’s a difference of 12-16 points in a game lost by 12.  In a season where I am looking for signs of progress, this game qualifies as such.  But the abiding sense is that this was a blown opportunity to get a win against a solid Cardinals team.  On to Cincy in a short week.  Hopefully, we can get a win against the Bengals.  But we have to stop turning the ball over, stop leaving points on the field, execute better, and continue to run thee ball.

Thank you for the great review as usual.

Regarding the parts in bold...

I just can't believe how Lambo has seemed to have just "lost it".  The guy used to be the most consistent player on the team the last couple of seasons.

Trevor Lawrence has been "so-so" in my opinion for much of the reasons that you stated.  There is no denying that the guy is talented and will eventually be a good QB.  I think he's going to need a few more games before everything starts kind of "slowing down" for him.  It's never wise to just throw a ball up like he did on the flea-flicker play.

I also don't quite get the RB rotation.  I may be off on this, but I think that they use Hyde way more than I thought they would.  It's almost like they don't have a "feature" back.  While Hyde had done decent, I feel like we should be feeding Robinson more.

Egads my proofreading is nonexistent here!

I expected TL to go through some early struggles.

That's the case with most rookie QBs, especially those who go to bad teams.

As long as he remains healthy, and the team actually manages to put some good talent around him, he will be outstanding for us.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...39812?s=19


It's true lol. Dear God.

Yup, you can hear Trevor call it out as he walks up to the center in this clip. He says "whirly bird" then follows it up with "you drew".
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...4040001538

Talk about trying to get too cute... Jesus.

This is absolutely, unbelievably, inconceivably bone-headed to have your O-lineman twirl losing sight of the defenders on a FLEA-FLICKER of all plays....

Whoever specifically drew this play up needs to get canned, just for that scheming alone.

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I thought we were in the game and playing quite well for 3 quarter

Improvement from last 2 games imho

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We would have been better off just running the ball every pay for the rest of the game with a 9 point lead. Ouch

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https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...39812?s=19


It's true lol. Dear God.

Yup, you can hear Trevor call it out as he walks up to the center in this clip. He says "whirly bird" then follows it up with "you drew".
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...4040001538

Talk about trying to get too cute... Jesus.

Meh, if the play works as designed it was a good play and a good call.  Unfortunately a player like JJ Watt doesn't do what is "expected".

From what I understand, a rushing defender will turn away from the "flow" of a running play to come around to the back side.  JJ Watt just didn't turn away and made a good play.

Sitting back and looking at it after the fact, Trevor Lawrence just made a horrible throw.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...39812?s=19


It's true lol. Dear God.

Yup, you can hear Trevor call it out as he walks up to the center in this clip. He says "whirly bird" then follows it up with "you drew".
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...4040001538

Talk about trying to get too cute... Jesus.

Those tricky Jags?

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