how do we know.... because she was vocal about it...and she tweeted about it....it was a bar he owns it was a birthday party... friends and family.... she was ok with it and knew he was there... this is such a none issue and only people who hate Urban have a problem with it... get over it...

So a woman you've never met tweets something and you unconditionally believe it to be true?  Isn't that just a little bit naïve?  I suspect her reaction might be somewhat different behind closed doors.  As I recall, Hillary publicly supported Bill throughout the Monica Lewinsky media circus. 

BTW I'm indifferent to him personally and there's nothing for me to "get over".  As a hiring decision, I was hoping for someone with NFL experience.  On a strictly football level, he's none nothing to impress me so far, but it's still early in his first season.  As the team leader, this event doesn't set a very good example for the players.

This is where I stand. I'm completely ambivalent about Urban Meyer. I honestly didn't realize the hate people have invested in him until this hit. The guy really elicits strong visceral reactions in people.

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So where does one go in Jacksonville for a little late night unsolicited grinding action?  Captain Odie's?  Asking for a friend...

Captain Odies is a rare spot where you can get grinded on by almost anyone, even in the early afternoon.. But the cigarette smoke is so thick in there, you have no idea who's doin the grindin..

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So where does one go in Jacksonville for a little late night unsolicited grinding action?  Captain Odie's?  Asking for a friend...

Captain Odies is a rare spot where you can get grinded on by almost anyone, even in the early afternoon.. But the cigarette smoke is so thick in there, you have no idea who's doin the grindin..

And it's Cap'n Odie's ya'll. Cain't be so formal with the name...

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I personally don't care. They're both adults and it looks to me like this girl is more interested in celebrity shaming than sexual assault. Now it's between Urbs and his wife.

With that being said, and the perfect truth is needed here (although I don't think we'll get it from everyone), if this were any other Jaguars HC, would you really care enough to call for his firing?

Be honest.

The grinding girl is the one in the two videos and she’s in one image posing next to Bourbon with another girl and is leaning her head on his shoulder.  I don’t know that there’s any evidence that she attempted to shame him.  

There is another image out there with a different girl from that same evening posing next to him with the caption “who is this and why is he flirting with me?”  Not the same girl from the videos though.

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https://twitter.com/BrodyLogan/status/14...3898359812

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Captain Odies is a rare spot where you can get grinded on by almost anyone, even in the early afternoon.. But the cigarette smoke is so thick in there, you have no idea who's doin the grindin..

And it's Cap'n Odie's ya'll. Cain't be so formal with the name...

I was stationed on a ship in Mayport for four and a half years and never set foot in that place. Even sailors have standards, believe it or not.

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I dunno man that looks like pretty clear sexual assault to me...

https://twitter.com/freak_leader/status/...pid1409899

Could be, could also not be. Who knows if they have a history. Who knows what was said. I can't really make an opinion on something like that without knowing the facts. So at the moment, I don't have an issue on what Urban likes to do for "fun". However again, him not returning home with the team as a HC is something that is absolutely unheard of. Totally unprofessional. He's not in it. This confirms that to me. Of course Khan will keep him around for [BLEEP] years until he realizes he isn't in it. There is a difference between a player going out missing the team plane and the damn head coach.

Pretty much where I stand on it as well.

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I dunno man that looks like pretty clear sexual assault to me...

https://twitter.com/freak_leader/status/...pid1409899

Could be, could also not be. Who knows if they have a history. Who knows what was said. I can't really make an opinion on something like that without knowing the facts. So at the moment, I don't have an issue on what Urban likes to do for "fun". However again, him not returning home with the team as a HC is something that is absolutely unheard of. Totally unprofessional. He's not in it. This confirms that to me. Of course Khan will keep him around for [BLEEP] years until he realizes he isn't in it. There is a difference between a player going out missing the team plane and the damn head coach.

This is being overlooked and is a great point.

It was talked about by several ex players as something they had never heard of before because he's supposed to be the leader of these men. "Hey guys. You head back on the plane alone but I'm gonna hang back and party it up. Good job out there tonight"

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Who cares. It's not our business. Maybe his wife is turned on for that fact some young hot piece wants some of her husband. We do not know enough to judge. Just leave it alone.

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And it's Cap'n Odie's ya'll. Cain't be so formal with the name...

I was stationed on a ship in Mayport for four and a half years and never set foot in that place. Even sailors have standards, believe it or not.

Depending on the mood, I'd either start out at Odie's and end up at The Hanger, or start out at The Hanger and end up at Odie's.. Either way, a trip to the clinic afterwards is advisable.

Edit: Now that I think about it, i don't think it was the hangar that I went to back in the day. I think it was called The Tavern Bar or something like that..

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So where does one go in Jacksonville for a little late night unsolicited grinding action?  Captain Odie's?  Asking for a friend...

Captain Odies is a rare spot where you can get grinded on by almost anyone, even in the early afternoon.. But the cigarette smoke is so thick in there, you have no idea who's doin the grindin..

LOL I remember that place when I lived there like 20 years ago.  Surprised it's still there.  First time I went in there I was shocked (and a little saddened) by the number of wives in there who were trolling for fresh meat.

Excited to fly back in this weekend.  I think we're gonna try to grab dinner Saturday night at North Beach Fish Camp and then maybe hit a few bars around Five Points.

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We learned in the Sunday School who made the sun shine through.  I know who made the moonshine too, back where I come from.

Captain Odies is a rare spot where you can get grinded on by almost anyone, even in the early afternoon.. But the cigarette smoke is so thick in there, you have no idea who's doin the grindin..

LOL I remember that place when I lived there like 20 years ago.  Surprised it's still there.  First time I went in there I was shocked (and a little saddened) by the number of wives in there who were trolling for fresh meat.

Excited to fly back in this weekend.  I think we're gonna try to grab dinner Saturday night at North Beach Fish Camp and then maybe hit a few bars around Five Points.

Yup.. And as a single guy back then, it was like a drive thru menu. That place and 57 Heaven in OP across the street from the mall. That was one of my stops too..

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Urban reportedly was going 56mph in a 55 zone. What a piece of garbage, this guy needs to be fired on the spot. I told you all I was right about him. Rumor is also that he brushes his teeth for 1:45 and not the full 2 minutes like dentist recommend. No way he can coach football, I was right. Please someone else agree with me, im desperate here.

Man you just really have to keep proving you're an idiot, don't you?

I apologize for hitting the nail on the head and you getting hurt feefees because of it

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Could be, could also not be. Who knows if they have a history. Who knows what was said. I can't really make an opinion on something like that without knowing the facts. So at the moment, I don't have an issue on what Urban likes to do for "fun". However again, him not returning home with the team as a HC is something that is absolutely unheard of. Totally unprofessional. He's not in it. This confirms that to me. Of course Khan will keep him around for [BLEEP] years until he realizes he isn't in it. There is a difference between a player going out missing the team plane and the damn head coach.

This is being overlooked and is a great point.

It was talked about by several ex players as something they had never heard of before because he's supposed to be the leader of these men. "Hey guys. You head back on the plane alone but I'm gonna hang back and party it up. Good job out there tonight"

And this right here sways my decision to have him ousted solidly. The absolute disrespect and lack of professionalism completely diminishes any semblance of leadership he may have wielded with this team by not joining the team back home.

I couldn't care less about his social indiscretions, even if I oppose them, but the fact that this occurred after him not joining the team on the plane is 100% terrible optics - and most likely diminishes what little authority he had within the locker room. Worst case scenario, this whole thing unravels the team chemistry and players completely disregard any sort of professional structure that NFL teams normally employ and things go off the rails. 

I'm not a hater of Urban but I don't see how he can maintain player trust and authority in guiding this team, especially when it seems like he's about to navigate some choppy waters with his personal life.

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I'm much more upset with his crappy handling of our roster and ineptitude in the first two weeks of the reg. season than this flap, but it's just one more thing piled on a heap of little things that make him look bad and jeopardize his leadership ability.

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This never would've happened under Tebow's watch.

I didn't think Urban would go off the rails so soon. Did he actually really expect to dominate this year?

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I honestly don't have a problem with the videos, but I do have a problem with the HEAD COACH of a NFL team not going home with the team on the team plane. Doesn't matter 0-4 or 4-0 that's just not what your HC should be doing. Think about the message that sends to the players. Sends the message that everybody can do whatever they want post game, who cares if u go home with the team. Go out, have fun. That's a terrible message to send, it's not a professional move what so ever from the man in the most important leadership position of this organization.

Think about the message that it sends to his wife that was babysitting their grand children alone. So you're in town BUT you won't come and visit me and our grand children?
Urban was torn between his Home, his Business and his NFL Team.

Give him a break. If there's turmoil amongst him, it'll show up sooner than later.

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

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"AZANE"

I was stationed on a ship in Mayport for four and a half years and never set foot in that place. Even sailors have standards, believe it or not.

Depending on the mood, I'd either start out at Odie's and end up at The Hanger, or start out at The Hanger and end up at Odie's.. Either way, a trip to the clinic afterwards is advisable.

Edit: Now that I think about it, i don't think it was the hangar that I went to back in the day. I think it was called The Tavern Bar or something like that..

I'm amazed that they put an Island Girl in that strip mall. Completely not the kind of clientele that place usually gets.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I honestly don't have a problem with the videos, but I do have a problem with the HEAD COACH of a NFL team not going home with the team on the team plane. Doesn't matter 0-4 or 4-0 that's just not what your HC should be doing. Think about the message that sends to the players. Sends the message that everybody can do whatever they want post game, who cares if u go home with the team. Go out, have fun. That's a terrible message to send, it's not a professional move what so ever from the man in the most important leadership position of this organization.

Think about the message that it sends to his wife that was babysitting their grand children alone. So you're in town BUT you won't come and visit me and our grand children?
Urban was torn between his Home, his Business and his NFL Team.

Give him a break. If there's turmoil amongst him, it'll show up sooner than later.

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

I think he's done.  The exit will come quickly.  Probably some medical reason and spending more time with the family.
I didn't anticipate him melting down this soon.

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Captain Odies is a rare spot where you can get grinded on by almost anyone, even in the early afternoon.. But the cigarette smoke is so thick in there, you have no idea who's doin the grindin..

LOL I remember that place when I lived there like 20 years ago.  Surprised it's still there.  First time I went in there I was shocked (and a little saddened) by the number of wives in there who were trolling for fresh meat.

Excited to fly back in this weekend.  I think we're gonna try to grab dinner Saturday night at North Beach Fish Camp and then maybe hit a few bars around Five Points.

John Taffer from Bar Rescue came through a few years ago and refreshed everything except the lounge lizards.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato