Yep, I tried telling people this a long time ago...

 

but, but, they said I was "just being negative" and "trolling for responses"....

 

Fifty sacks in 2012. Fifty sacks in 2013. Somebody must have finally watched some film, eh?

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Fifty sacks in 2012. Fifty sacks in 2013. Somebody must have finally watched some film, eh?

 

Maybe Spaceballs...

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I was one for giving Uche more time to see if his play improved back a couple seasons. He did have a couple nagging injuries. Well, that played out, and I think it's the right move, all things considered. I do share the question of having an upgrade in place prior to releasing Uche though. I wonder if some bonus was in play come the start of the NFL year, and if that played a part in the timing of his release.

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My observation is that this move is a continuance of Caldwell/Bradley get better, get younger, build for the future.

This will add another wrinkle for FA and fodder for the MB. I will miss U and his posts.

 

Also as in keeping in the past, Jags release players early so that they may catch on

somewhere else for the season.

 

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When they have no time,  they think about it!

When they go down hard, they think about it!

 

Just watch Peyton, Andrew, Caep even Mr. Bundchen.

Um? At this point I believe Paztor at RT has proven more than Joeckel has as a LT. So I'd say the only position we don't need to upgrade is RT and LT 

Paztor in reality is only an average RT. People tend to overrate him because we had such horrible play at the position before him.

 

It is hard to upgrade the LT any more than investing the number 2 overall pick at the position. The investment has already been made. There isn't anything more you can do with the spot right now.  We are just waiting on the return.

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I was one for giving Uche more time to see if his play improved back a couple seasons. He did have a couple nagging injuries. Well, that played out, and I think it's the right move, all things considered. I do share the question of having an upgrade in place prior to releasing Uche though. I wonder if some bonus was in play come the start of the NFL year, and if that played a part in the timing of his release.

He had a million dollar roster bonus due sometime before training camp. Too expensive for a guy who they expect will have to compete for a roster spot.

 

Maybe they will re-sign him to a more favorable deal.

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Paztor in reality is only an average RT. People tend to overrate him because we had such horrible play at the position before him.

 

It is hard to upgrade the LT any more than investing the number 2 overall pick at the position. The investment has already been made. There isn't anything more you can do with the spot right now.  We are just waiting on the return.

 Disagree. Paztor was pretty dang good.

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He wasn't pretty dang good. He was average, sometimes below average.

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Paztor in reality is only an average RT. People tend to overrate him because we had such horrible play at the position before him.

 

It is hard to upgrade the LT any more than investing the number 2 overall pick at the position. The investment has already been made. There isn't anything more you can do with the spot right now.  We are just waiting on the return.

 

LOL...ok.

 

I doubt you could point to many examples to back up this theory of yours.

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Was he a good or dominant run blocker? No.

Was he a good pass blocker? No.


Pasztor is adequate nothing else

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Was he a good or dominant run blocker? No.

Was he a good pass blocker? No.


Pasztor is adequate nothing else

 

Overall, probably average.

 

But his pass blocking was pretty good. His run blocking (like the entire line) left alot to be desired.

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 A guy I think that could be at least a backup next year is Jacques McClendon. After Brewster broke his leg, McClendon played the last few games and actually was pretty decent. Not great but certainly better than Rackley or Brewster.

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I think it's pretty obvious that Offensive Line is our biggest need, next to QB.

 

We will need to be aggressive in FA and in the draft (for O Linemen) if we are going to have any chance of being competitive this year.

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I wish him the best of luck wherever he goes next. 

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What's the sense in changing to a  ZBS if nobody you have can play it?  Doesn't it make more sense to make the scheme fit the players you have than vice versa?

 

I agree with the above. 

 

Thats how Chip Kelly is operating. Thats how Belichick operates. 

 

The best coaches seem to operate this way. 

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I agree with the above. 

 

Thats how Chip Kelly is operating. Thats how Belichick operates. 

 

The best coaches seem to operate this way. 

 

But not Andy Reid.

 

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I agree with the above. 

 

Thats how Chip Kelly is operating. Thats how Belichick operates. 

 

The best coaches seem to operate this way. 

 

But of course.

 

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But of course.

 

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SuperJville made a good point. I agreed. Do you disagree with the point he made?

 

It was kinda silly to install a line blocking system like that when we had so few players to effectively run it. 

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 Disagree. Paztor was pretty dang good.

 

The same Austin Pasztor that was completely blown up in the running game last year? Austin was "adequate" in pass protection but struggled mightily generating a push in the run game, he lacks the necessary upper body strength and doesn't play with enough leverage to be an effective run blocker at this level, that's not to say he can't develop into that, but he's a major question mark at this point. Ideally, your right tackle is your power tackle (think DJ Fluker), the Jaguars absolutely need to find a right tackle that can generate a push in the run game to compliment Luke Joeckel, who was profiled at Texas A&M as more of a finesse tackle (think Joe Thomas), I expect the Jaguars to bring in legit competition at the right tackle spot, whether it's through FA or the draft, and wouldn't be surprised if AP isn't our starting RT next year.

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I agree with jagforlife85.

 

If a guy like Lewan drops into the 2nd, I can see us pulling the trigger and making him our RT. 

 

Pasztor is not a building block nor a strength on this team.

 

He started on one of the worst offensive lines in the league.  I don't think he did much better than Cam Bradfield did at LT, for instance.

 

We have holes everywhere on the O-line, possibly even LT if Luke doesn't play well after his injury.  I think Luke will, but it's still an unknown.

 

Our offensive line hasn't been this bad and this undermanned for a long time, possibly ever. 

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