Is this that first Oklahoma that he supposedly had that mysterious knee injury that Vic used to say made his career so unremarkable?


Strange how he doesn't indicate injury at any point or even touch his knee the whole time.

His rear end was injured by Vinny's foot.

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I believe he was drafted to be a penetrating DT, not a run stuffer. You don't draft run stuffers with number 10 pick. And as someone else mentioned, he would be a disappointment if he was drafted in the 2nd.

 

Sometimes dominant two-gap guys get drafted high but they really need to be physically dominant.

 

Alualu wasn't either. Gene Smith once again thought he was the smartest guy in the room and could project Alualu to do something he didn't do before.

 

If Alualu had been Albert Haynesworth size and physicality I could understand taking him #10, but he was sub 300 lbs and without dominant pass rushing ability.

 

You're right, he would have been disappointing drafted any time before the third round.

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Just strictly this year, the savings is under 1 million if cut.

this year it would save 2,471,500.

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It really is amazing how bad Gene was at drafting talent. We could have done better with Kiper as the GM during that time frame. Gene Smith got paid money to draft players.... SOMEONE PAID HIM MONEY TO HELP RUN A TEAM. Let that sink in... he was given dollar bills to draft Alualu and Anger....

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this year it would save 2,471,500.

 

You are not factoring in the "dead money" if he is released.

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-...on-alualu/

 

If he is on the roster, his cap hit is 4.16 million. If he is released, he counts as 3.08 million against the cap. The savings is just over 1 million. For 1 million, I don't think he is released.

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You are not factoring in the "dead money" if he is released.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/tyson-alualu/'>http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/tyson-alualu/</a>


If he is on the roster, his cap hit is 4.16 million. If he is released, he counts as 3.08 million against the cap. The savings is just over 1 million. For 1 million, I don't think he is released.

however u want to look at it if he gets cut u save 5 mil over the next 2 yrs. 3 mil u will have in dead money

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You are not factoring in the "dead money" if he is released.

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-...on-alualu/

 

If he is on the roster, his cap hit is 4.16 million. If he is released, he counts as 3.08 million against the cap. The savings is just over 1 million. For 1 million, I don't think he is released.

 

With the amount of cap space the Jaguars have right now I doubt dead money even factors into it. The circa 5mil that the team would save on his last two seasons by cutting him is real money, as in real money that is yet to be paid and which could be paid to someone worthwhile in free agency.

 

The dead money only matters when the cap is a concern, and currently in this off season it's just not a concern for the Jaguars.

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With the amount of cap space the Jaguars have right now I doubt dead money even factors into it. The circa 5mil that the team would save on his last two seasons by cutting him is real money, as in real money that is yet to be paid and which could be paid to someone worthwhile in free agency.

 

The dead money only matters when the cap is a concern, and currently in this off season it's just not a concern for the Jaguars.

 

That's the point. There is no 5 million in savings by cutting him. You guys are only looking at his base salary and not factoring his previous bonuses and how those are assigned to the cap.

 

Cutting him this year would save 1 million this year. He has a player option for 2015, which I assume he will exercise unless he has some outstanding year. Based on his 2015 option, cutting him next year would save 2.5 million for that year. Making it more likely he is cut next year, if at all.

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Didn't Gene draft Terrance Knighton? Starting DT for the Superbowl losing Broncos?

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That's the point. There is no 5 million in savings by cutting him. You guys are only looking at his base salary and not factoring his previous bonuses and how those are assigned to the cap.

 

Cutting him this year would save 1 million this year. He has a player option for 2015, which I assume he will exercise unless he has some outstanding year. Based on his 2015 option, cutting him next year would save 2.5 million for that year. Making it more likely he is cut next year, if at all.

 

Is his contract guaranteed? That's the only way there isn't a real savings.

 

Like I said, the cap savings stuff just doesn't matter on a team with 55 million dollars in cap space, what matters is what is actually being paid, and Alualu has about 5 million dollars in base salary due to him over 2014 and 2015. If that isn't guaranteed salary then cutting him before the season literally saves Shad Khan from having to pay that base salary.

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I believe he was drafted to be a penetrating DT, not a run stuffer. You don't draft run stuffers with number 10 pick. And as someone else mentioned, he would be a disappointment if he was drafted in the 2nd.

The elephant in the room is defensive tackles get to the football and... er ....tackle.

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Well it is 2014. 2010 was a long time ago.


But ya its still a bad job

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Likely that next offseason there will be only one (potentially zero) players left from the 2011 draft. Gabbert, Rackley and Prosinski are on the bubble. Shorts III being the only potential keeper but he will be a free agent.

Speaking of Shorts and FA. 

Say the Jags get a big time DE FA as the LEO and do the wait and see on QB (whether it be 2nd round or later/2015 draft) We draft Watkins as the Blackmon replacement starter for this year, if Blackmon comes back late in the season (after game 8 or so) we'll have a nice trio. shorts leaves and Blackmon keeps his nose clean, Watkins/Blackmon would be a killer duo of WRs for ANY QB (Garrapolo, Carr, Berger, Mariotta, Hundley, etc)

 

I never really considered Watkins a possibility, but this kind of makes sense in a way, if free agency goes right for the Jaguars anyway

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It really is amazing how bad Gene was at drafting talent. We could have done better with Kiper as the GM during that time frame. Gene Smith got paid money to draft players.... SOMEONE PAID HIM MONEY TO HELP RUN A TEAM. Let that sink in... he was given dollar bills to draft Alualu and Anger....

 

We could have had a monkey pull names out of a hat, and done better.

 

I can only hope that Gene Smith gets another opportunity to run an NFL team.  Preferably the Texans or Tacks.  The Colts would work too should they give up on Grigson.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

We could have had a monkey pull names out of a hat, and done better.

 

I can only hope that Gene Smith gets another opportunity to run an NFL team.  Preferably the Texans or Tacks.  The Colts would work too should they give up on Grigson.

 

One thing I would be interested to see is if you literally did an "Auto-draft" for those 4 years and used someone like Kiper or Mayock's BAP list how it would look?

 

But yeah I agree. My 8 y/o son could do better.

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Didn't Gene draft Terrance Knighton? Starting DT for the Superbowl losing Broncos?

 

Thank you.


 

I'd the last one to defend Gene Smith, but I have to look at the reality. The reality is that from the 2009 draft Monroe and Knighton are NFL starters, and Jennings, Underwood and probably Cox are still decent backups. From 2007 Nelson is a starter, and Podlesh and Nwaneri will probably sign with some team. I'm not sure about Durant but he played in Dallas last year. I think Groves and Karim are still in the NFL too.


 

Just because a player is no longer on the team does not mean that he was a bad pick. Some of it is about how well a player fits a scheme, and with two recent coaching changes some viable players no longer fit on the Jags roster.

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