Not sure what I think about it. Non Jags twitter is roasting it, but a former HC who has a history with QBs seems like a solid get for QB coach to me. Idk.

Been coaching since 2000. Lots of experience as QB coach and OC, as well as 4 years of being a HC like you said. Seems hes hasn't coached in the league since 2018.

I don't see anything wrong with it as a QB coach.

Allbright said he had a history of being very difficult to work with and undermining superiors...hope we don't have a little mini Baalke on the coaching staff now.

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Been coaching since 2000. Lots of experience as QB coach and OC, as well as 4 years of being a HC like you said. Seems hes hasn't coached in the league since 2018.

I don't see anything wrong with it as a QB coach.

Allbright said he had a history of being very difficult to work with and undermining superiors...hope we don't have a little mini Baalke on the coaching staff now.

I mean that could explain why hes been out of the league since 2018.

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https://twitter.com/chadkoon/status/1490...Ztea-NGN5w

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I’ve been doing a little research on Mike McCoy, We’re going to hear a lot about how his offenses underperformed during his time as the Chargers head coach. I was a little concerned, but it turns out his QB coach in 2013 and offensive coordinator from 2014 to 2016 was Frank Reich. He had to dismiss Reich along with most of his staff under duress from Telesco (GM) after the 2016 season.

Reich has had a pretty good carrier since then, and obviously knows both McCoy and Pederson well. I don’t think we have to worry about getting a baby Baalke. If McCoy was bad news, Pederson would have known through Reich.

So I’m going to treat this one as a positive for now.

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That and as much balleyhoo as fans gave the Jaguars for dragging out the process, several other teams did as well.

That said, the Texans and dolphins should have never had a coaching search to begin with. Firing Culley and Flores were just head scratchers

Agreed. Given what the Texans were working with, I thought Culley did an admirable job. Same for Flores, but I heard he was the one who was lobbying to trade for Watson. Given Watson's predicament, I think the smart move is to stay with Tua.

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What a horrible and weird situation going on with watson. Such a good player who's career is in limbo and already somewhat in ruin. Now the saints appointed allen their d coach as head coach, so all the coaching vacancies are set. Flores looked like he was going to get one but maybe it was fools good and now hes probably blacked balled.

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What a horrible and weird situation going on with watson. Such a good player who's career is in limbo and already somewhat in ruin. Now the saints appointed allen their d coach as head coach, so all the coaching vacancies are set. Flores looked like he was going to get one but maybe it was fools good and now hes probably blacked balled.

Some facts are getting lost in the media’s rush to promote racial strife. Flores was sacked, but not the black GM he had trouble working with. I think Flores is correct that the Giants wanted Daboll all along, albeit not because he’s white, but because an offensive coach has a better chance of salvaging Daniel Jones. Flores overreacted to this rejection, fresh from losing his power player in Miami, where he was pushing to trade for Watson to replace Tua, who was the GM’s pick. Now Flores is reinforcing his reputation earned in Miami that he’s volatile and difficult to work with. Had he not filed the lawsuit to bully the NFL into hiring him, he might actually have the Texans job or another HC job in time.

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"I am only an average man, but by George, I work harder at it than the average man." - Teddy Roosevelt

What a horrible and weird situation going on with watson. Such a good player who's career is in limbo and already somewhat in ruin. Now the saints appointed allen their d coach as head coach, so all the coaching vacancies are set. Flores looked like he was going to get one but maybe it was fools good and now hes probably blacked balled.

Some facts are getting lost in the media’s rush to promote racial strife. Flores was sacked, but not the black GM he had trouble working with. I think Flores is correct that the Giants wanted Daboll all along, albeit not because he’s white, but because an offensive coach has a better chance of salvaging Daniel Jones. Flores overreacted to this rejection, fresh from losing his power player in Miami, where he was pushing to trade for Watson to replace Tua, who was the GM’s pick. Now Flores is reinforcing his reputation earned in Miami that he’s volatile and difficult to work with. Had he not filed the lawsuit to bully the NFL into hiring him, he might actually have the Texans job or another HC job in time.

Very well said.  Clear thinking like this, supported by facts, is ultimately the only way we’re going to truly solve anything.  Conducting witch hunts under the guise of social justice only serves to mask the real problems and make matters worse for everyone.

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Lovie had decent success in Chicago. My only concern is him being defensive minded if I am a tinhorns fan. Peter King said it best today in that Spielman discussion.

90% of coaches that are fired tend to have a common denominator. And that denominator is poor QB play or a bad QB situation overall. Lovie made it to a SB with Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton as his QBs. That's on the GM. Not Lovie. He had the same problem in Tampa.

I don't know what is. Defensive minded coaches [Del Rio, Rivera, Zimmer, Lewis, etc] just seem to never pull it off anymore but they keep decent teams up to snuff.

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Players, not plays. Teams with decent QBs tend to win, and as such, their coaches tend to get renewed. Coaches with a dung heap under center are doomed to fail.

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That and as much balleyhoo as fans gave the Jaguars for dragging out the process, several other teams did as well.

That said, the Texans and dolphins should have never had a coaching search to begin with. Firing Culley and Flores were just head scratchers

And those two SHOULD have taken longer, because any candidate worth a darn probably didn't want to go anywhere near either of those jobs. We shouldn't have had that excuse to delay our search.

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Lovie had decent success in Chicago. My only concern is him being defensive minded if I am a tinhorns fan. Peter King said it best today in that Spielman discussion.

90% of coaches that are fired tend to have a common denominator. And that denominator is poor QB play or a bad QB situation overall. Lovie made it to a SB with Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton as his QBs. That's on the GM. Not Lovie. He had the same problem in Tampa.

I don't know what is. Defensive minded coaches [Del Rio, Rivera, Zimmer, Lewis, etc] just seem to never pull it off anymore but they keep decent teams up to snuff.

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Players, not plays. Teams with decent QBs tend to win, and as such, their coaches tend to get renewed. Coaches with a dung heap under center are doomed to fail.

Agreed

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What a horrible and weird situation going on with watson. Such a good player who's career is in limbo and already somewhat in ruin. Now the saints appointed allen their d coach as head coach, so all the coaching vacancies are set. Flores looked like he was going to get one but maybe it was fools good and now hes probably blacked balled.

Some facts are getting lost in the media’s rush to promote racial strife. Flores was sacked, but not the black GM he had trouble working with. I think Flores is correct that the Giants wanted Daboll all along, albeit not because he’s white, but because an offensive coach has a better chance of salvaging Daniel Jones. Flores overreacted to this rejection, fresh from losing his power player in Miami, where he was pushing to trade for Watson to replace Tua, who was the GM’s pick. Now Flores is reinforcing his reputation earned in Miami that he’s volatile and difficult to work with. Had he not filed the lawsuit to bully the NFL into hiring him, he might actually have the Texans job or another HC job in time.

This is what I said the day the suit was filed. He better be able to back up his allegations, because no team is going to want to bring in litigious coaches that are going to butt heads with GMs or ownership. There's plenty of other mediocre coaches out there who will play nice.

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Some facts are getting lost in the media’s rush to promote racial strife. Flores was sacked, but not the black GM he had trouble working with. I think Flores is correct that the Giants wanted Daboll all along, albeit not because he’s white, but because an offensive coach has a better chance of salvaging Daniel Jones. Flores overreacted to this rejection, fresh from losing his power player in Miami, where he was pushing to trade for Watson to replace Tua, who was the GM’s pick. Now Flores is reinforcing his reputation earned in Miami that he’s volatile and difficult to work with. Had he not filed the lawsuit to bully the NFL into hiring him, he might actually have the Texans job or another HC job in time.

This is what I said the day the suit was filed. He better be able to back up his allegations, because no team is going to want to bring in litigious coaches that are going to butt heads with GMs or ownership. There's plenty of other mediocre coaches out there who will play nice.

Here’s the reality of how that works, and it’s something that no one wants to hear or accept.  A lawsuit like the one Flores filed is only going to make white owners more hesitant to interview and hire minorities because of the potential liability if it doesn’t work out.  If people think that hasn’t happened and doesn’t continue to happen, they’re being very neive.

OR, you get a situation like the Texans where a minority candidate is hired due to optics rather than being the top candidate. Like I’ve said before, hiring Lovie instead of McCown was a blessing in disguise for the Texans because Lovie is far more qualified for the job. I doubt the Texans are racist, but I’m pretty sure they’re idiots.

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What a horrible and weird situation going on with watson. Such a good player who's career is in limbo and already somewhat in ruin. Now the saints appointed allen their d coach as head coach, so all the coaching vacancies are set. Flores looked like he was going to get one but maybe it was fools good and now hes probably blacked balled.

Some facts are getting lost in the media’s rush to promote racial strife. Flores was sacked, but not the black GM he had trouble working with. I think Flores is correct that the Giants wanted Daboll all along, albeit not because he’s white, but because an offensive coach has a better chance of salvaging Daniel Jones. Flores overreacted to this rejection, fresh from losing his power player in Miami, where he was pushing to trade for Watson to replace Tua, who was the GM’s pick. Now Flores is reinforcing his reputation earned in Miami that he’s volatile and difficult to work with. Had he not filed the lawsuit to bully the NFL into hiring him, he might actually have the Texans job or another HC job in time.

Ya, I am so sick of this victim [BLEEP].... from all accounts I've read, the dude is really hard to work with and has an ego the size of Mount Rushmore.

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/...t-H927_ZMw

One more piece to the puzzle added.

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I think this is the first one to be excited about.

https://twitter.com/MT_FB/status/1356302235685289985

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Devin white has been a complete bust and one of the worst linebackers in the league since he's been drafted. So Caldwell having the most impact of any coach on him might not be a good thing.

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Devin white has been a complete bust and one of the worst linebackers in the league since he's been drafted. So Caldwell having the most impact of any coach on him might not be a good thing.

I’m presuming this is sarcasm if not I have no idea how to respond

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Devin white has been a complete bust and one of the worst linebackers in the league since he's been drafted. So Caldwell having the most impact of any coach on him might not be a good thing.

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

To me Caldwell feels like a good hire if it happens. I expect Pederson to put together a great staff, he seemed supremely confident of doing so at the presser.

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