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*** The Official 2014 NFL Mock Draft Thread ***


Why do people want to trade out of the pick if Clowney is there?


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Quote:Why do people want to trade out of the pick if Clowney is there?
I would for a king's ransom, but I'd rather just have him if I'm only getting a 2nd or a 3rd.

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Quote:I would for a king's ransom, but I'd rather just have him if I'm only getting a 2nd or a 3rd.
this^

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Quote:Tebow fail with different results in the end? Whaaat?
sorry that was a terrible sentence. 

 

I meant  Tebow fall, as in him falling to the Broncos in the 2010 draft. And by different result I mean Manziel playing on a higher level than Tebow. 

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Jags mock :

 

1st round : QB Teddy Bridgwater

2nd round : OLB Kyle Van Noy

3rd round : DE Marcus Smith

4th round : OG Cyril Richardson

4th round : RB Lache Seastrunk

5th round : WR Josh Huff

5th round : C Tyler Larsen

5th round : TE Joe Don Duncan

6th round : OG Brandon Linder

7th round : QB Connor Shaw


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(This post was last modified: 03-09-2014, 06:34 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

1. Sammy Watkins, WR, Clem

 

2. Dee Ford, DE, Aub

 

2..Tre Mason, RB, Aub  traded 3rd, 4th, and 5th to move back into the 2nd to get Mason

 

3. traded to move back into 2nd to get Mason

 

4. Aaron Murray, QB, Geo.

 

4. traded to move back into 2nd to get Mason

 

5. Anthony Steen, OG Ala

 

5. Tyler Larsen, C Ut. St.

 

5. traded to move back into 2nd to get Mason

 

6. Jay Prosch, FB, Aub

 

7. Connor Shaw, QB, SC


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that draft along with some oline help in free agency and we double our wins from last year


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Quote:1. Sammy Watkins, WR, Clem

 

2. Dee Ford, DE, Aub

 

2..Tre Mason, RB, Aub  traded 3rd, 4th, and 5th to move back into the 2nd to get Mason

 

3. traded to move back into 2nd to get Mason

 

4. Aaron Murray, QB, Geo.

 

4. traded to move back into 2nd to get Mason

 

5. Anthony Steen, OG Ala

 

5. Tyler Larsen, C Ut. St.

 

5. traded to move back into 2nd to get Mason

 

6. Jay Prosch, FB, Aub

 

7. Connor Shaw, QB, SC
wouldn't mind this draft one bit. Don't see us going the Watkins route though. I also don't see Ford in the 2nd round. 

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Quote:Jags mock :

 

1st round : QB Teddy Bridgwater

2nd round : OLB Kyle Van Noy

3rd round : DE Marcus Smith

4th round : OG Cyril Richardson

4th round : RB Lache Seastrunk

5th round : WR Josh Huff

5th round : C Tyler Larsen

5th round : TE Joe Don Duncan

6th round : OG Brandon Linder

7th round : QB Connor Shaw
Nice one.  Don't love Bridgewater, but we'd have our possible franchise QB, Van Noy and Smith would definitely improve the pass rush, and Richardson would be a great pick in the 4th.  Only problem with this scenario is that we really NEED a WR early in the draft that can start.  We had the 2nd fewest TD receptions in the NFL last year.

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Quote:MOCK 8.0 / DRAFT OF THE CENTURY / QB'S FALL


1. Houston Texans (2-14) - Jadeveon Clowney DE


2. St. Louis Rams
(Skins 3-13) - Jake Matthews OT


3. Jacksonville Jaguars
(4-12) - Khalil Mack OLB


4. Cleveland Browns (4-12) - Blake Bortles QB


5. Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Sammy Watkins WR

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);">6. Atlanta Falcons
(4-12) - Greg Robinson OT </span>


7. Tampa Bay Buccs (4-12) - Teddy Bridgewater QB


8. Minnesota Vikings (5-10-1) - Justin Gilbert CB


9. Buffalo Bills (6-10) - Mike Evans WR


10. Detroit Lions (6-10) - Taylor Lewan OT


11. Tennesse Titans - Darqueze Dennard CB

12. New York Giants - Aaron Donald DT

13. St. Louis Rams - Calvin Pyror S

14. Chicago Bears - Timmy Jernigan DT

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Rashede Hageman DT

16. Dallas Cowboys - Anthony Barr OLB

17. Baltimore Ravens - C.J. Mosley ILB

18. New York Jets - Marquise Lee WR

19. Miami Dolphins - Zach Martin OT

20. Arizona Cardinals - Derek Carr QB

21. Green Bay Packers - Eric Ebron TE

22. Philadelphia Eagles - HAHA Clinton-Dix S

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Odell Beckman WR

24. Cincinnati Bengals - Dee Ford DE

25. San Diego Chargers - Bradley Roby CB

26. Cleveland Browns - Kelvin Benjamin WR

27. New Orleans Saints - Xavier Su’a Filo OG

28. Carolina Panthers - Morgan Moses OT

29. New England Patriots - Louis Nix NT

30. San Francisco 49ers -Jason Verrett CB

31. Denver Broncos - Ryan Shazier OLB

32. *Trade* Jacksonville Jaguars
- Johnny Manziel QB

Jacksonville trades 2nd Round, 4th Round, and 5th round for Seahawks 1st Round Pick

I'm expected Johnny to fall because of just the nature of this draft. So much talent at every position, I expect many teams to pursue other quarterback options versus taking a flyer on Johnny. It will be a Tebow fail all over again, except with different results in the end.


<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);">[font='Helvetica Neue']<span style="font-size:14px;">Jaguars:

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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);">[font='Helvetica Neue']<span style="font-size:14px;">1st Round Khalil Mack OLB
</span>[/font]</span>
<span style="font-size:14px;">1st Round Johnny Manziel QB
</span>
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);">[font='Helvetica Neue']<span style="font-size:14px;">3rd Round Travis Swanson C
</span>[/font]</span>
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);">[font='Helvetica Neue']<span style="font-size:14px;">4th Round
Lache Seastrunk HB </span>[/font]</span>
<span style="font-size:14px;">5th Round
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);">[font='Helvetica Neue']Deandre Coleman DT
</span>[/font]</span>
<span style="font-size:14px;">5th Round Crockett Gilmore TE
</span>
<span style="font-size:14px;">6th Round
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);">[font='Helvetica Neue']Kevin Norwood WR
</span>[/font]</span>
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);">[font='Helvetica Neue']<span style="font-size:14px;">7th Round Charles Sawyer S
</span>[/font]</span>


Would absolutely love this draft.
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top 10

houston- teddy bridgewater

st louis- greg robinson

jags- trade with atlanta falcons for 2nd and 4th- atlanta- clowney

cleveland- jonny manziel

oakland-  trade with tampa bay for a 4th round pick- tampa take sammy watkins

jags- khalil mack

 oakland raiders- jake matthews

minnesota vikings- blake bortles

buffalo bills- taylor lewan

detroit lions- justin gilbert

 

jags picks

1st khalil mack- pass rushing olb to add a bit more menace to the team

 

2nd atlanta- xavier sau' filo- mauler guard to go with the more athletic beadles

2nd jags kareem martin- a poor mans clowney

 

3rd jags- use their 4th round pick from atlanta to trade into the back end of the second and pick- donte moncrief-  nice quick receiver

 

4th  daniel mccullers- big nose tackle to go in the 4 man dt rotation 

4th baltimore aaron murray- faller because of his injury, a solid rythm passer with good accuracy and nice zip on the ball

 

5th david fales- a very poor mans teddy bridgewater,

5th lions bryan stork- ideally suited for the zone blocking scheme centre that was one of bradley's captains at the senior bowl

5th ravens james white- great 1 cut and go running back, bargain in the 5th

 

6th marqueston huff- long speedy free safety

6th walt aikens- big physical cornor to come in and compete

 

7th l'damian washington quick receiver at 6 4 has huge amounts of upside but is raw

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(This post was last modified: 03-14-2014, 10:35 AM by HolsterHusto.)

To finish out the FA I'd like the Jags to pick up a center (Ryan Wendell or EDS?) and then another WR (maybe Stephen Hill if cut or Sydney Rice).


1st - Mack (trade down with Atl and pick up another 2nd and 4th)

1st - Manziel (trade both 2nds and 4th to move back into the 1st)

3rd - Niklas

4th - J. Watkins

4th - Jimmie Ward

5th - Aaron Murray

5th - B. Stork

5th - Daniel Mccuellers (or Beau Allen)

6th - Jon Halapio

6th - Jeff Janis

7th - Storm Johnson

UDFA - Jay Prosch


QB - Henne, Manziel, Murray, Scott

RB - Gerhart, Toddman, Storm, Robinson

FB - Will, Prosch

WR - Blackmon (Sus) Hill/Rice, Janis

WR - Shorts, Sanders, Brown, Ebert

TE - Lewis, Niklas, Harbor, Reisner

LT - Joeckel, Bradfield

LG - Beadles, Rackley, Brewster

C - Wendell/EDS, Stork, Lewis

RG - McClendon, Halapio, Novak

RT - Pasztor, Young, Love


LEO - Clemons, Babin, Branch, Davis

DT - Marks, Ziggy

NT - Miller, McCuellers/Beau

LDE - Bryant, Alualu, Arby

OLB - Mack, Watkins, Lotulelei

MLB - Poz, Reynolds, Stupar

OLB - Hayes, Allen, Thomas

CB - Gratz, Blackmon, Harris

SS - Cyprien, Guy

FS - Evans, Ward, Prosinski

CB - Ball, Watkins, McCray


K- Scobee

P - Anger

LS - Tinker
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2..Tre Mason, RB, Aub  traded 3rd, 4th, and 5th to move back into the 2nd to get Mason

 
 

No thanks

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With all the pass rush help in Free Agencey, I feel like Caldwell has now positioned himself to be able to trade down if Clowney is there..  I think Clowney could be a bigger headache than he is worth for some reason.  Would anybody be mad if the top of the draft and the rest of our picks went down like this?

 

1. HOU - QB B. Bortles

2. STL - WR S. Watkins

3. MIN - QB T. Bridgewater (from JAC)

4. CLE - DE J. Clowney

5. OAK - OT G. Robinson

6. ATL - OT J. Mattews

7. TAM -  DE/OLB K. Mack

8. JAC - QB J. Manziel (not that I really want him, but .....)

 

Rnd 1 - QB J. Manziel, Texas A&M

Rnd 2 - OG David Yankey, Stanford

Rnd2 - WR Jordan Matthews, Vandy

Rnd3 - OC Travis Swanson, Arkansas

Rnd4 - RB Leche Seastrunk, Baylor

Rnd4 - QB Brad Smith, Wyoming

Rnd5 - TE Arthur Lynch, Georgia


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Quote:With all the pass rush help in Free Agencey, I feel like Caldwell has now positioned himself to be able to trade down if Clowney is there..  I think Clowney could be a bigger headache than he is worth for some reason.  Would anybody be mad if the top of the draft and the rest of our picks went down like this?

 

1. HOU - QB B. Bortles

2. STL - WR S. Watkins

3. MIN - QB T. Bridgewater (from JAC)

4. CLE - DE J. Clowney

5. OAK - OT G. Robinson

6. ATL - OT J. Mattews

7. TAM -  DE/OLB K. Mack

8. JAC - QB J. Manziel (not that I really want him, but .....)

 

Rnd 1 - QB J. Manziel, Texas A&M

Rnd 2 - OG David Yankey, Stanford

Rnd2 - WR Jordan Matthews, Vandy

Rnd3 - OC Travis Swanson, Arkansas

Rnd4 - RB Leche Seastrunk, Baylor

Rnd4 - QB Brad Smith, Wyoming

Rnd5 - TE Arthur Lynch, Georgia
I can get if they don't like Clowney (even though I disagree), but I don't see why they wouldn't just take Manziel at 3.  Letting CLE and OAK both pick before us, I doubt Manziel would be there if we valued him that high.  Only reason we should trade back is if there's no one there we are really in love with (especially a QB) and it's too good of an offer to pass up.

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Quote:No thanks
i wouldnt do that now with the addition of Toby
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Quote:I can get if they don't like Clowney (even though I disagree), but I don't see why they wouldn't just take Manziel at 3.  Letting CLE and OAK both pick before us, I doubt Manziel would be there if we valued him that high.  Only reason we should trade back is if there's no one there we are really in love with (especially a QB) and it's too good of an offer to pass up.
I think Manziel is going to fall a little.  If Minnesota does not take him at # 8, I would not be surprised if he does not fall to the bottom of round 1 and somebody trade up to get him, like Denver did to get Tebow when he fell in 2010. In the scenario I presented, he just happened to be there at #8 (kind of like a luxury pick) and we still get three starters out of rounds 2 and 3 as a result of the trade back. 

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(This post was last modified: 03-14-2014, 06:32 PM by JagsorDie.)

No trade scenerio:

1st: khalil Mack or Clowney

2nd: kelvin benjamin

3rd: (instert bap C), Bryan Stork (fsu) and Swanson (arkansas) prob avalaible.

4th: Murray


Lazy draft but thats something i would love to see.
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Quote:Would absolutely love this draft.
I would also love it. Most of this projection is quite possible, except I don't see Manziel being available at the end of the first. I'd take the best available q.b. in the 2nd (I trust Caldwell to make the right choice, although I have a hunch that McCarron will be better than Garrapalo, Carr or any of the other Tier 2 guys). With the extra 4th and 5th, I'd go for another receiver in the 4th and whoever is the best player available in the 5th.

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Man we have a lot of picks now, and if we trade down in the 1st and get an extra 2nd round pick, I can see Caldwell packaging some picks and trading up after the 1st round, maybe more than once.  Hmmm.... maybe trade down and take Mike Evans, then use the extra 2nd rounder and a 4th to trade back into the bottom of the 1st and get Manziel if still there.  I'd love to see that combo for the Jags for a few years!

 

Rnd1- WR M. Evans (starting day one, will make any QB look better)

Rnd1 - QB J. Manziel (we've seen what he and Evans can do, wow)

Rnd2 - OG D. Yankey (starter at RG day one, can also play RT if needed)

Rnd3 - OC M. Martin or T. Swanson (Starter if we don't get a Center in FA)

Rnd4 - RB L. Seastrunk (lightning to Gerhart's thunder)

Rnd5 - QB B. Smith (can play similar style to Manziel if needed)

 

I don't know about you guys, but I'd be pretty excited about that draft.  Could renew some of the old excitement from the fans, and some respect from opponents and the rest of the NFL.


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