I’m officially admitting I was wrong.

I’m now leaning towards concern about Trevor. He handed that game to them today with poor decision making

Anyone who is actually reasonable would have some concern about him because he's had a few plays that resulted in a horrible outcome for our team that nullify the good that he may have displayed leading up to it.

But it works both ways, can't lean on either extreme on the debate and at the end of the day, hes a 22 year old 2nd year starting QB on a 3-14 team. This will take time but I'm cautiously optimistic.

I'm just ready for him to really show out with a statement game and I was hoping that the additions of CKirk and Zay would allow him to do that. Trevor NEEDS to step it up though.

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Trevor isn't the answer, unfortunately. We'll draft another QB in a couple years after a .250 season.

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I’m officially admitting I was wrong.

I’m now leaning towards concern about Trevor. He handed that game to them today with poor decision making

I had concerns since he was drafted but he's shown signs of being a franchise QB at times which is why you want to give him the benefit of the doubt. The frustrating thing is he's making some of the same mistakes that he was making last year. He'll occasionally make plays that look awesome, other times he misses guys, over or underthrows or just doesn't see guys running open.

I've been concerned for a long time. My take on the situation is that if he's one of the better quarterbacks when the pocket is clean then it's very telling how he's performing when that's not the case. 

We're not talking about 'all Quarterbacks are worse under pressure'. We're talking about how Trev is under pressure: awful.

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you can see how much confidence the staff has with him, they take zero shots down field unless they have to.

I'm ready to move on, he lost last weeks game and he pretty much lost this one.

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He doesn't have it, he is better than the QBs the Jags have had but he isn't going to lead the team.

He has predetermined everything today and is missing wide open WRs. He also isn't accurate enough to throw medium depth passes.

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I’ve about had enough of this garbage QB. He had some good games in weeks 2 & 3 and I understand he didn’t need to win the game for us but even in those games he looked like a game manager who just did what he had to while the team won the game.

Last week I’ll give an exception to considering the rain and the fumbles.

Just no excuses today. That last 4th down play. Why would you throw such a low percentage pass when the game is on the line? Just terrible decision making. It’s sad to say and I hope I’m proven wrong but this guy just can’t seem to do it. There hasn’t been a single time when he’s taken over a game and at least given us a chance to win, like most #1 picks are expected to do.

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you can see how much confidence the staff has with him, they take zero shots down field unless they have to.

I'm ready to move on, he lost last weeks game and he pretty much lost this one.

they know he can be good if he gets the ball out quickly or on roll outs. The second one is clearly not something they want to do. That shrinks the playbook and helps the other defense

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Can't even get into position for a hail mary and the entire Texans defense playing prevent. Just pathetic.

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I’m officially admitting I was wrong.

I’m now leaning towards concern about Trevor. He handed that game to them today with poor decision making

Anyone who is actually reasonable would have some concern about him because he's had a few plays that resulted in a horrible outcome for our team that nullify the good that he may have displayed leading up to it.

But it works both ways, can't lean on either extreme on the debate and at the end of the day, hes a 22 year old 2nd year starting QB on a 3-14 team. This will take time but I'm cautiously optimistic.

I'm just ready for him to really show out with a statement game and I was hoping that the additions of CKirk and Zay would allow him to do that. Trevor NEEDS to step it up though.

We’ve waited long enough. The statement game hasn’t happened yet. He has enough weapons, and an offensive minded coach. The excuses are beginning to dwindle. He’s verging on bust territory

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Couldn't even get the hail mary off lol.

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hats off to tony elliot for making this guy look like a generational quarterback, that dude is an offensive mastermind.

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Looks like this thread is going to get a workout this week

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hats off to tony elliot for making this guy look like a generational quarterback, that dude is an offensive mastermind.

I've been thinking about Ohio State quarterbacks. It's easy to look good in college if your team is much better than the opposition.

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Honeymoon is clearly over. ;-) Too bad the BOAT retired recently, we could use him, lol.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you. 
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TLaw will learn from this. Can't make an omelet without breaking eggs.

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Anyone who is actually reasonable would have some concern about him because he's had a few plays that resulted in a horrible outcome for our team that nullify the good that he may have displayed leading up to it.

But it works both ways, can't lean on either extreme on the debate and at the end of the day, hes a 22 year old 2nd year starting QB on a 3-14 team. This will take time but I'm cautiously optimistic.

I'm just ready for him to really show out with a statement game and I was hoping that the additions of CKirk and Zay would allow him to do that. Trevor NEEDS to step it up though.

We’ve waited long enough. The statement game hasn’t happened yet. He has enough weapons, and an offensive minded coach. The excuses are beginning to dwindle. He’s verging on bust territory

I'm not making excuses for him at all because he's definitely contributed to the crap product on the field.

I will say though, last year was an absolute debacle and this team was completely devoid of talent outside of JRob - which is why I thought bringing in Kirk and Zay would possibly change things up positively. Again, Trevor is certainly not the savior that some in the national media have proclaimed, but he joined the worst team in the NFL with no talent.

Its time for him to step up or the seat WILL and SHOULD be getting hotter for him. Most thought the tinhorns game would be a good opportunity for him to display that statement game but to no avail - and it mainly falls on Trevor this time.

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Whole lot of post game hand wringing going on LOL

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2 points. 1-TLaw is in the bottom half of starting QBs in the league. 2-his play is greatly improved from last year.

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Respect the game.  Play with a sense of urgency. 


1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  

It’s amazing that we live in a world where fans of such a bloody game like football legitimately can’t take criticism about their terrible players.

1. This is actually my first account and any mod here can IP check and prove this

2. What metric says that Trevor is the best QB from his class? 

Overall arm talent: That’s obviously Zach Wilson 
Overall athleticism: Thats obviously Justin Fields 
Overall accuracy: that’s obviously Mac Jones 
Overall QB IQ: that’s obviously Mac Jones 
Ability to read NFL defense: Mac Jones 
Ability to lead the WR: Mac Jones 

Please let’s have the discussion without the “yOuR a TrOlL” bush league nonsense

You're a troll because you only show up after a bad game with something to try and fit your narrative. Where were you the last two weeks? Where's your data for the above points? You claim by metrics but post none.

Hmmmm

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It’s amazing that we live in a world where fans of such a bloody game like football legitimately can’t take criticism about their terrible players.

1. This is actually my first account and any mod here can IP check and prove this

2. What metric says that Trevor is the best QB from his class? 

Overall arm talent: That’s obviously Zach Wilson 
Overall athleticism: Thats obviously Justin Fields 
Overall accuracy: that’s obviously Mac Jones 
Overall QB IQ: that’s obviously Mac Jones 
Ability to read NFL defense: Mac Jones 
Ability to lead the WR: Mac Jones 

Please let’s have the discussion without the “yOuR a TrOlL” bush league nonsense

LOL who says it is nonsense?  Goodbye ....

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I don’t think people understand how hard it is to throw in that kind of rain and wind. I am going to give Trevor a mulligan on this game overall, though he better have a glove on next rain game lol.

Yes, I think someone said he wasn't wearing a glove because he wasn't comfortable doing that. After this game if he is a team guy he will lean to be able to wear one. Let's see.

Goodbye and HELLO! ?

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Whole lot of post game hand wringing going on LOL

Well, anyone can see our QB lost us the game for the 2nd week in a row. 

What would it take for you to blame Trevor?

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