Oh and by the way, we're the favorites next week lolol
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CBS is showing it as 3 points.  This is completely bizarre.  Why?  They are 5-1 with some of them being against decent teams.  We're 2-4 including losing 3 straight games.  It's at home, but that's still saying it's a tossup on a neutral field.  Weird.

Yea usually the home team gets 3 points, but even if that was the case, you'd still think the Giants would be favorites. 5-1 coming into the game with 3 straight wins, two of which were the Packers and Ravens back to back.

Vegas is typically right though. They must know something we don't.

I imagine that line will get betted down though and it'll be closer to a straight up pick em game come Sunday.

I wont be a bit surprised if we beat them though. Honestly I feel like we win this one.

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CBS is showing it as 3 points.  This is completely bizarre.  Why?  They are 5-1 with some of them being against decent teams.  We're 2-4 including losing 3 straight games.  It's at home, but that's still saying it's a tossup on a neutral field.  Weird.

Yea usually the home team gets 3 points, but even if that was the case, you'd still think the Giants would be favorites. 5-1 coming into the game with 3 straight wins, two of which were the Packers and Ravens back to back.

Vegas is typically right though. They must know something we don't.

I imagine that line will get betted down though and it'll be closer to a straight up pick em game come Sunday.

I wont be a bit surprised if we beat them though. Honestly I feel like we win this one.

Same.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Y’all are in for a shock for when Daniel Jones eats the defense alive

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Y’all are in for a shock for when Daniel Jones eats the defense alive

Worried more about Barkley than Jones.

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CBS is showing it as 3 points.  This is completely bizarre.  Why?  They are 5-1 with some of them being against decent teams.  We're 2-4 including losing 3 straight games.  It's at home, but that's still saying it's a tossup on a neutral field.  Weird.

Yea usually the home team gets 3 points, but even if that was the case, you'd still think the Giants would be favorites. 5-1 coming into the game with 3 straight wins, two of which were the Packers and Ravens back to back.

Vegas is typically right though. They must know something we don't.

I imagine that line will get betted down though and it'll be closer to a straight up pick em game come Sunday.

I wont be a bit surprised if we beat them though. Honestly I feel like we win this one.

I wouldn't be surprised either.  This board is definitely filled with people who need to enroll in "Overreactors Anonymous".  There is a lot of parity in the NFL.  A hand full of plays can change around a team's record.  "Any given Sunday" is definitely true.

That being said, I'm still questioning why the oddsmakers would favor the Jaguars.  Did the Giants experience a major injury today?

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Yea usually the home team gets 3 points, but even if that was the case, you'd still think the Giants would be favorites. 5-1 coming into the game with 3 straight wins, two of which were the Packers and Ravens back to back.

Vegas is typically right though. They must know something we don't.

I imagine that line will get betted down though and it'll be closer to a straight up pick em game come Sunday.

I wont be a bit surprised if we beat them though. Honestly I feel like we win this one.

I wouldn't be surprised either.  This board is definitely filled with people who need to enroll in "Overreactors Anonymous".  There is a lot of parity in the NFL.  A hand full of plays can change around a team's record.  "Any given Sunday" is definitely true.

That being said, I'm still questioning why the oddsmakers would favor the Jaguars.  Did the Giants experience a major injury today?

The odds makers don’t think the Jags suck like some of our fans do.

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I wouldn't be surprised either.  This board is definitely filled with people who need to enroll in "Overreactors Anonymous".  There is a lot of parity in the NFL.  A hand full of plays can change around a team's record.  "Any given Sunday" is definitely true.

That being said, I'm still questioning why the oddsmakers would favor the Jaguars.  Did the Giants experience a major injury today?

The odds makers don’t think the Jags suck like some of our fans do.

This.....

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I am just amazed at some people hating on this coaching staff, some of these people are the same guys who defended Bradley, Caldwell and even Meyer...

We should have a better record but the team is nowhere near as bad as in past years... we also lack talent in several areas.

They took a terrible team and made them competitive in a single offseason. People expecting them to be a 5 win team right now are delusional.

Yeah but we also live in a world where Daniel Jones and the Giants are a 5 win team right now. And that's just wild to me.

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They took a terrible team and made them competitive in a single offseason. People expecting them to be a 5 win team right now are delusional.

Yeah but we also live in a world where Daniel Jones and the Giants are a 5 win team right now. And that's just wild to me.

Should see the awful INT Lamar Jackson threw at the end of that game (while leading 20-17 at the time of the INT) to gift the Giants the win.

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Yeah but we also live in a world where Daniel Jones and the Giants are a 5 win team right now. And that's just wild to me.

Should see the awful INT Lamar Jackson threw at the end of that game (while leading 20-17 at the time of the INT) to gift the Giants the win.

Either way we live in a world where the Giants are a 5 win team and the Jets just handled the Packers lol.

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That's not really true.  Most of our losses last year were not close.  10 of our 14 losses last year were by at least 2 scores.  We had 6 losses by at least 3 scores.  We had 2 losses by at least 4 scores.  One of our losses was by 5 scores.  This year 100% of our losses have been by 1 score games where we still had an opportunity to win the game almost up to the end.  All of our wins this year have also been decisive and never in doubt.

You can say a loss is a loss.  In terms of the standings and playoff position, that's true.  In terms of evaluating the quality of a team, that's complete non-sense.  A team losing close games has a much better chance of turning it around than a team that is losing by 2, 3, 4, or 5 scores which was the norm for us last year.  This year's team is one that could potentially turn it around just by our young players getting more experience or a different play call or two by Pederson, etc.  If nothing else, if you are competitive in games, it makes it realistic that one good draft next year could turn those losses into wins.  That's not true when your team is getting blown out on a regular basis.

Exactly. People with this "a loss is a loss" mindset really need to take a step back. That's why I keep asking the same question today. "Would you rather lose $10 or $100?".

Frankly, neither.

In 2017, we were the 7th youngest roster in the league and went to the AFC Championship. This year we are the 4th youngest. The 5-1 Giants are 5th. The 4-2 Cowboys are 3rd youngest with a backup QB.

The Cardinals and the Bucs have the two oldest rosters this year. Bucs are leading their division at 3-3, and the Cards are 2-4, and haven't looked good getting there. So where's age/experience factor in here?

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

Exactly. People with this "a loss is a loss" mindset really need to take a step back. That's why I keep asking the same question today. "Would you rather lose $10 or $100?".

Frankly, neither.

In 2017, we were the 7th youngest roster in the league and went to the AFC Championship. This year we are the 4th youngest. The 5-1 Giants are 5th. The 4-2 Cowboys are 3rd youngest with a backup QB.

The Cardinals and the Bucs have the two oldest rosters this year. Bucs are leading their division at 3-3, and the Cards are 2-4, and haven't looked good getting there. So where's age/experience factor in here?

The 2017 Jaguars began the season 3-3, just one game ahead of where the 2022 Jaguars currently stand.  They then went 7-3 in their next games or 9-3 if you include their first two post season games.  They were a young team that improved as players got more experience.  Are you trying to make my case for me?  

Just to be clear, I'm not saying that the Jaguars are going to the AFC Championship Game.  I just suggest the possibility that when you are relying heavily on rookies and other young players, they often will improve with experience.  It's possible that some of these close losses turn into wins later in the season.  It's very plausible when you are losing close games.  If we were routinely losing games by 2, 3, 4, or 5 scores like last year, then no, the experience gained is unlikely to be significant enough to make up that kind of difference.

I would also say that it is pretty hard to imagine that someone could be indifferent about losing $100 versus $10.  Just admit it.  You prefer one over the other.

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CBS is showing it as 3 points.  This is completely bizarre.  Why?  They are 5-1 with some of them being against decent teams.  We're 2-4 including losing 3 straight games.  It's at home, but that's still saying it's a tossup on a neutral field.  Weird.

Yea usually the home team gets 3 points, but even if that was the case, you'd still think the Giants would be favorites. 5-1 coming into the game with 3 straight wins, two of which were the Packers and Ravens back to back.

Vegas is typically right though. They must know something we don't.

I imagine that line will get betted down though and it'll be closer to a straight up pick em game come Sunday.

I wont be a bit surprised if we beat them though. Honestly I feel like we win this one.

Vegas knows that Jones hasn't thrown for more than 217 yards this year in a game. Only threw past 200 the one time. 

It's the run game the Jags need to focus on vs the giants - they are 4th best in the league. 

Jags run D is still 5th best in the league. 

Makes it a tougher matchup than it looks according to W/L record.

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Yea usually the home team gets 3 points, but even if that was the case, you'd still think the Giants would be favorites. 5-1 coming into the game with 3 straight wins, two of which were the Packers and Ravens back to back.

Vegas is typically right though. They must know something we don't.

I imagine that line will get betted down though and it'll be closer to a straight up pick em game come Sunday.

I wont be a bit surprised if we beat them though. Honestly I feel like we win this one.

Vegas knows that Jones hasn't thrown for more than 217 yards this year in a game. Only threw past 200 the one time. 

It's the run game the Jags need to focus on vs the giants - they are 4th best in the league. 

Jags run D is still 5th best in the league. 

Makes it a tougher matchup than it looks according to W/L record.

They are, but Giants are using weird formations to multiple RB and TE options. They will stress the LB's a lot this game in coverage. Jags were mediocre covering DJ against Indy and Saquon is a tougher match up.

Also they are now using Danny Dimes as a runner a lot, and the threat of Philly's Hurts running really messed up the Jags aggressiveness and run fits.

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Vegas knows that Jones hasn't thrown for more than 217 yards this year in a game. Only threw past 200 the one time. 

It's the run game the Jags need to focus on vs the giants - they are 4th best in the league. 

Jags run D is still 5th best in the league. 

Makes it a tougher matchup than it looks according to W/L record.

They are, but Giants are using weird formations to multiple RB and TE options. They will stress the LB's a lot this game in coverage. Jags were mediocre covering DJ against Indy and Saquon is a tougher match up.

Also they are now using Danny Dimes as a runner a lot, and the threat of Philly's Hurts running really messed up the Jags aggressiveness and run fits.

Yeah. It's a tougher than than matchup than basic team stats suggest and not as simple as the W/L column suggests. 

Gonna come down to Jags defense making more plays and missing fewer tackles than last week IMO. 
I think the offense can score some points again for the Jags - just not confident it will be enough. 

Of course the other possibility regarding the Jags run defense is that the Jags allow Jones, Shepard and Slayton to look like superstars through the air after they limit the run for a while. 

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Hey we’re atleast in every ballgame. That’s what we all wanted.

We all didn't want that.   Being in every ball game doesn't mean [BLEEP] if you still lose them all

so it's better if we're gonna lose anyway, go ahead and lose by 50?

"You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try." -- Homer J.

The over the top hype three weeks in was never about competitive team, or even beating the clots or tinhorns. Those koolaid consumers were playoffs or bust, deluding themselves that a pristine injury report and every good fortune falling our way was going to continue for the remainder of the season.

And yes, keeping games close does in fact matter. Tell me being tied 6-6 with the tinhorns is as good as a loss if Walker doesn't [bleep] up and give them a free ticket down field. Tell me eating ten minutes of clock against an offense that seemed to be moving at will and eventually taking a one-point lead with two minutes means dookie if the D is just gonna do their best lawn chair impression.

None of those plays mean anything if we are already down three scores. Keeping it close means you're a play away from turning the tables in your own favor. One big play isn't gonna mean squat if we're just seizing garbage time stats.

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That's not really true.  Most of our losses last year were not close.  10 of our 14 losses last year were by at least 2 scores.  We had 6 losses by at least 3 scores.  We had 2 losses by at least 4 scores.  One of our losses was by 5 scores.  This year 100% of our losses have been by 1 score games where we still had an opportunity to win the game almost up to the end.  All of our wins this year have also been decisive and never in doubt.

You can say a loss is a loss.  In terms of the standings and playoff position, that's true.  In terms of evaluating the quality of a team, that's complete non-sense.  A team losing close games has a much better chance of turning it around than a team that is losing by 2, 3, 4, or 5 scores which was the norm for us last year.  This year's team is one that could potentially turn it around just by our young players getting more experience or a different play call or two by Pederson, etc.  If nothing else, if you are competitive in games, it makes it realistic that one good draft next year could turn those losses into wins.  That's not true when your team is getting blown out on a regular basis.

If we keep the rest of our games close but don't win any more you call that improvement being they were all close?

If we keep the rest of our games close you realistically expect us to lose all 11 of those games?

if we win 2 close games but lose the rest by 40 you consider that improvement?

I can ask questions too.

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I hope Fatukasi is back this week. I think we will see a different team if he is able to go.

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They are, but Giants are using weird formations to multiple RB and TE options. They will stress the LB's a lot this game in coverage. Jags were mediocre covering DJ against Indy and Saquon is a tougher match up.

Also they are now using Danny Dimes as a runner a lot, and the threat of Philly's Hurts running really messed up the Jags aggressiveness and run fits.

Yeah. It's a tougher than than matchup than basic team stats suggest and not as simple as the W/L column suggests. 

Gonna come down to Jags defense making more plays and missing fewer tackles than last week IMO. 
I think the offense can score some points again for the Jags - just not confident it will be enough. 

Of course the other possibility regarding the Jags run defense is that the Jags allow Jones, Shepard and Slayton to look like superstars through the air after they limit the run for a while. 

Shepard is on IR. Tore his ACL in week 3.

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I am just amazed at some people hating on this coaching staff, some of these people are the same guys who defended Bradley, Caldwell and even Meyer...

We should have a better record but the team is nowhere near as bad as in past years... we also lack talent in several areas.

They took a terrible team and made them competitive in a single offseason. People expecting them to be a 5 win team right now are delusional.

Exactly this...

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