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Jags vs Chiefs

#41

(11-07-2022, 06:26 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: Didn't Indy and the Texans beat KC... if they can do it we definitely can lol

(11-07-2022, 06:00 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Yup, this Offense moves the ball between the 20's with the best of them. Problem is self inflicted mistakes are what have bit us in the [BLEEP].

Redzone INTs and Fumbles. Doug leaving points off the board by not kicking Field Goals when he should. Dumb personal fouls that extend the other team's drives ending in TDs, when they would of had to punt away the ball. etc etc

We finally kicked a field goal when we should have yesterday... to take the points and we freaking missed it lol

The clots beat KC in Indy (20-17). tinhorns still only have 1 win and that was vs us.

Yea he missed it, but it was still the right decision to kick it. Hes only missed 3 so far this season. 2 Field Goal attempts, one in week 1 and one yesterday. He also missed 1 Extra point attempt vs the Giants.

He's 13/15 on FGs and 18/19 on XPs. Hes been money for the most part so far.
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#42

(11-07-2022, 06:46 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 06:26 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: Didn't Indy and the Texans beat KC... if they can do it we definitely can lol


We finally kicked a field goal when we should have yesterday... to take the points and we freaking missed it lol

The clots beat KC in Indy (20-17). tinhorns still only have 1 win and that was vs us.

Yea he missed it, but it was still the right decision to kick it. Hes only missed 3 so far this season. 2 Field Goal attempts, one in week 1 and one yesterday. He also missed 1 Extra point attempt vs the Giants.

He's 13/15 on FGs and 18/19 on XPs. Hes been money for the most part so far.

The giants one was blocked yea?
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#43

(11-07-2022, 07:35 PM)StrayaJag Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 06:46 PM)Eric1 Wrote: The clots beat KC in Indy (20-17). tinhorns still only have 1 win and that was vs us.

Yea he missed it, but it was still the right decision to kick it. Hes only missed 3 so far this season. 2 Field Goal attempts, one in week 1 and one yesterday. He also missed 1 Extra point attempt vs the Giants.

He's 13/15 on FGs and 18/19 on XPs. Hes been money for the most part so far.

The giants one was blocked yea?

Yea now that you mention it, I believe it was blocked.
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#44

Id like to see us put Campbell on Kelce. Den used to do it with Champ on Tony G
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#45
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2022, 08:44 PM by NewJagsCity. Edited 3 times in total.)

(11-07-2022, 08:21 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Id like to see us put Campbell on Kelce. Den used to do it with Champ on Tony G

You must be joking. If you want to see a 10 catch, 150+ yard performance, then by all means, do this.

Campbell doesn't turn around ever, how's he going to handle Kelce just plucking the ball away while he stares at his face mask?
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#46
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2022, 09:38 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 1 time in total.)

(11-07-2022, 08:39 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 08:21 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Id like to see us put Campbell on Kelce.  Den used to do it with Champ on Tony G

You must be joking.  If you want to see a 10 catch, 150+ yard performance, then by all means, do this.

Campbell doesn't turn around ever, how's he going to handle Kelce just plucking the ball away while he stares at his face mask?

He had the task against Adams yesterday and started rough but played much better the 2nd half and shut him out.  All its doing is making Campbell better.  Campbell has good size and Kelce isnt going to blow by him with his speed.  Im not sure if they will do it but id like to see it.  Iron sharpens iron
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#47

(11-07-2022, 09:36 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 08:39 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: You must be joking.  If you want to see a 10 catch, 150+ yard performance, then by all means, do this.

Campbell doesn't turn around ever, how's he going to handle Kelce just plucking the ball away while he stares at his face mask?

He had the task against Adams yesterday and started rough but played much better the 2nd half and shut him out.  All its doing is making Campbell better.  Campbell has good size and Kelce isnt going to blow by him with his speed.  Im not sure if they will do it but id like to see it.  Iron sharpens iron

Yeah, good point about the 2nd half. Ok, let's try it. Herndon, Cisco or Jenkins certainly won't get it done.
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#48

(11-07-2022, 08:21 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Id like to see us put Campbell on Kelce.  Den used to do it with Champ on Tony G
Kelce rarely splits out wide and Campbell pretty much only plays outside. 

Isn’t this game why they drafted Lloyd? To be able to run and cover TEs?
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#49

(11-07-2022, 09:45 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 08:21 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Id like to see us put Campbell on Kelce.  Den used to do it with Champ on Tony G
Kelce rarely splits out wide and Campbell pretty much only plays outside. 

Isn’t this game why they drafted Lloyd? To be able to run and cover TEs?
It doesn't matter, I'd still put Campbell on him until he shows he can't do it.  You think we drafted Lloyd to play 1 on 1 with one of the best TEs ever as a rookie?  Lmao .  There isn't a LB in the league that can cover Kelce 1 on 1, it's crazy I even have to explain this to you.
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#50

(11-07-2022, 09:58 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 09:45 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Kelce rarely splits out wide and Campbell pretty much only plays outside. 

Isn’t this game why they drafted Lloyd? To be able to run and cover TEs?
It doesn't matter, I'd still put Campbell on him until he shows he can't do it.  You think we drafted Lloyd to play 1 on 1 with one of the best TEs ever as a rookie?  Lmao .  There isn't a LB in the league that can cover Kelce 1 on 1, it's crazy I even have to explain this to you.
Not in year 1 but Lloyd should be able to cover good tight ends. You don’t think he’s quick enough? 

Campbell doesn’t have the hips to play in the slot which is why he got cooked when they tried him there. He’s strictly an outside guy.

Throw Lloyd, Oluokon, Cisco and Jenkins (if he plays) on him. Switch it up but not Campbell. He needs to stay outside. It’s Crazy I even have to explain this to you. LMAO LOL LOLZ LMAO
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#51

My guy Mahomes had 68 passing attempts vs Tacks lmao damn.
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#52

(11-07-2022, 10:30 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: My guy Mahomes had 68 passing attempts vs Tacks lmao damn.

Our defence is goinf to have to step up bigtime

Would love to see walker or lloyd get a sack


And please Cisco remove your butter fingers, that dropped interception was damn painful
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#53

(11-07-2022, 10:23 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 09:58 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: It doesn't matter, I'd still put Campbell on him until he shows he can't do it.  You think we drafted Lloyd to play 1 on 1 with one of the best TEs ever as a rookie?  Lmao .  There isn't a LB in the league that can cover Kelce 1 on 1, it's crazy I even have to explain this to you.
Not in year 1 but Lloyd should be able to cover good tight ends. You don’t think he’s quick enough? 

Campbell doesn’t have the hips to play in the slot which is why he got cooked when they tried him there. He’s strictly an outside guy.

Throw Lloyd, Oluokon, Cisco and Jenkins (if he plays) on him. Switch it up but not Campbell. He needs to stay outside. It’s Crazy I even have to explain this to you. LMAO LOL LOLZ LMAO

Double Kelce with Lloyd and the Safeties. Keep two on him at all times and hope the CBs can hold up on the outside. Campbell will be fine locking up whoever he's on, but they simply can't let Kelce kill them.

Mecole Hardman is fast, but he isn't Tyreek Hill.

Best weapon against the Chiefs is keeping Mahomes and that Offense on the sideline. Limit the amount of chances he gets by sustaining long, clock eating drives. Far easier said then done, but that's the key to a win here. And as always, limit the mistakes because Mahomes will absolutely take advantage of them.

ETN will likely see another big touch output, just like he has the past 3 weeks.
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#54
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2022, 11:00 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 4 times in total.)

(11-07-2022, 10:23 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 09:58 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: It doesn't matter, I'd still put Campbell on him until he shows he can't do it.  You think we drafted Lloyd to play 1 on 1 with one of the best TEs ever as a rookie?  Lmao .  There isn't a LB in the league that can cover Kelce 1 on 1, it's crazy I even have to explain this to you.
Not in year 1 but Lloyd should be able to cover good tight ends. You don’t think he’s quick enough? 

Campbell doesn’t have the hips to play in the slot which is why he got cooked when they tried him there. He’s strictly an outside guy.

Throw Lloyd, Oluokon, Cisco and Jenkins (if he plays) on him. Switch it up but not Campbell. He needs to stay outside. It’s Crazy I even have to explain this to you. LMAO LOL LOLZ LMAO
Then what are you talking about, hes in year 1? You act like Kelce is just some random TE.  He is a HOF TE and one of the best ever.  "Campbell doesn't have the hips"  lol.  Campbell can play anywhere and there isnt many corners that can stick on their man like Campbell.  Early on in his rookie year he was getting beat everywhere.  When in man the last 2 games Campbell has followed the teams best WR.  Before he was strictly right corner.  I'm not saying put Campbell on him every single time, of course you have to mix it up to try and confuse the offense but at times I'd like to see them man Campbell up on Kelce to see if he is up for the task, if not the put him back on a WR.
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#55

I've been optimistic and see what this season is (improvement) but this is the first game I'm worried. The Chiefs at Arrowhead is as tough as it comes. For me this is a game where the team sees where the bar is, where the level they have to reach is, how fine the margins are.

Obviously I'd love us to shock the world but even if we get finally blown out this year I still won't panic.

Another good learning experience for a team we can see progressing.
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#56
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2022, 11:51 PM by NewJagsCity.)

(11-07-2022, 11:41 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: I've been optimistic and see what this season is (improvement) but this is the first game I'm worried. The Chiefs at Arrowhead is as tough as it comes. For me this is a game where the team sees where the bar is, where the level they have to reach is, how fine the margins are.

Obviously I'd love us to shock the world but even if we get finally blown out this year I still won't panic.

Another good learning experience for a team we can see progressing.

This might be the first blowout loss of the season, or it might be a one score game. Raiders were a failed 2pt conversion away from a win just a month ago, and the Chargers lead going into the 4th quarter 2 months ago. Both at Arrowhead. Colts beat them (albeit at home). Who knows?
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#57

Need Agnew to see some looks offensively. His hip seems fine. Showed plenty of burst on special teams.

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#58

(11-07-2022, 11:50 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 11:41 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: I've been optimistic and see what this season is (improvement) but this is the first game I'm worried. The Chiefs at Arrowhead is as tough as it comes. For me this is a game where the team sees where the bar is, where the level they have to reach is, how fine the margins are.

Obviously I'd love us to shock the world but even if we get finally blown out this year I still won't panic.

Another good learning experience for a team we can see progressing.

This might be the first blowout loss of the season, or it might be a one score game.  Raiders were a failed 2pt conversion away from a win just a month ago, and the Chargers lead going into the 4th quarter 2 months ago.  Both at Arrowhead. Colts beat them (albeit at home).  Who knows?

Oh absolutely. Any given Sunday definitely. We've got nothing to lose from the game, nobody outside of Jacksonville would give us a chance and hopefully Sunday gave us some confidence and the Chiefs aren't looking as formidable as they have but it's going to be a real challenge. 

I'm just saying even if we do lose badly its not changing my optimism about is going forwards.
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#59

(11-07-2022, 11:53 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Need Agnew to see some looks offensively. His hip seems fine. Showed plenty of burst on special teams.

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Yep had that really nice kick return during the game

Great to see he recovered well
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#60
(This post was last modified: 11-08-2022, 09:07 AM by Mikey.)

(11-07-2022, 09:36 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 08:39 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: You must be joking.  If you want to see a 10 catch, 150+ yard performance, then by all means, do this.

Campbell doesn't turn around ever, how's he going to handle Kelce just plucking the ball away while he stares at his face mask?

He had the task against Adams yesterday and started rough but played much better the 2nd half and shut him out.  All its doing is making Campbell better.  Campbell has good size and Kelce isnt going to blow by him with his speed.  Im not sure if they will do it but id like to see it.  Iron sharpens iron

Adams was still getting open, but Carr's accuracy tanked hard.
Campbell ain't Champ. Our best bet is to keep an LB on him, safety help over top. The WR don't intimidate me as much now that Hill's gone. If Campbell and Herndon (or Williams) can keep the passes in the middle of the field, we have a much better chance of slowing them down. Let the outside guys do what they do. Don't get fancy, fancy is how you end up throwing INTs in the end zone on first and goal.

(11-07-2022, 09:58 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 09:45 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Kelce rarely splits out wide and Campbell pretty much only plays outside. 

Isn’t this game why they drafted Lloyd? To be able to run and cover TEs?
It doesn't matter, I'd still put Campbell on him until he shows he can't do it.  You think we drafted Lloyd to play 1 on 1 with one of the best TEs ever as a rookie?  Lmao .  There isn't a LB in the league that can cover Kelce 1 on 1, it's crazy I even have to explain this to you.

Do you think we darfted Campbell to cover TE in the LB coverage zones?

I don't think anyone said 1-on-1. We did draft Lloyd to provide coverage and to leverage his speed in these very situations. Nobody said he's a shutdown corner in a linebacker body. We also darfted Cisco to be the guy to help on those plays. We darfted Walker to get in Pat's face and hurry the throw.

If you get too fancy, ol' Andy will find a new way to destroy you.
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